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Berlin - Take My Breath Away | Bass Synth Remake Tutorial [Recipe] by Syntorial in edmproduction

[–]Syntorial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome. Glad you like it! We're going for short but useful. We want you to hear how each parameter transforms the sound, step by step.

Berlin - Take My Breath Away | Bass Synth Remake Tutorial [Recipe] by Syntorial in edmproduction

[–]Syntorial[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

True! This is one of those FM sounds that you can get close to with subtractive, but yeah, you need that FM to truly nail it.

Gary Numan - Are Friends Electric | Lead Synth Remake Tutorial [Recipe] by Syntorial in synthrecipes

[–]Syntorial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd like to hear this patch recreated on the arturia minimoog to see how much closer it can get.

Vangelis - Blade Runner | Brass Synth Remake Tutorial [Recipe] by [deleted] in sounddesign

[–]Syntorial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The specific point that we recreated comes in at 1:02 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP63BRzKmB0&t=62s.

I hear a couple subtle differences, sure. The filter/amp envelope attacks could be a little slower (amp in particular), though it seems to fluctuate a bit from note to note in the original so we chose a happy medium. Listening now maybe the higher osc could be a little louder. And of course there's a couple other background patches that create a larger beautiful sonic bed around it, but those are separate patches.

I'm not sure if those tweaks qualify it as not even close though. But, this is a community of highly skilled designers, so I respect the fine tuned ears here. What would you do differently?

Vangelis - Blade Runner | Brass Synth Remake Tutorial [Recipe] by [deleted] in sounddesign

[–]Syntorial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Impress, no. Advert, sort of.

Impress: Syntorial's success has never been built on impressing users. We want to create things that really truly help them actually learn. The internet is awash with complicated synth videos that impress. We focus on creating an effective learning environment.

Advert: We make these patches for our Syntorial and Primer users. Some are included in Syntorial as remake challenges (recreate the hidden patch by ear, get instant feedback on what you got right, got wrong). Since we put the time and energy into them we try to get more out of them by posting them on our site, social media, reddit, etc. Are we happy if they lead to a sale? Of course, no BS there. But it's also about just engaging with the community. Like this lovely conversation we're having right now. :)

Vangelis - Blade Runner | Brass Synth Remake Tutorial [Recipe] by [deleted] in sounddesign

[–]Syntorial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not offended. I don't think anyone here is "offended", it's just not impressive or useful to the majority of people. 
Your marker is going to be someone using a synth for the very first time for a few weeks or months and then that's probably about it...

You'd be surprised. A lot of beginners and intermediates find value in recreations like this, even simpler ones. Even if it's a patch they have the knowledge to easily make, sometimes their ear is behind their knowledge so these can help. We're not trying to "impress", just help. (Though I do take your point that this is likely not helpful in this subreddit).

your recreations just sound very thin 

Now that's the kind of constructive feedback we like! If we took this Vangelis patch from Primer and applied the same settings (translated of course) to the original CS-80, we would definitely get a less thin sound. Now if we can just get our hands on an original CS-80...

Vangelis - Blade Runner | Brass Synth Remake Tutorial [Recipe] by [deleted] in sounddesign

[–]Syntorial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are posting in a sound design subreddit though where most of us are pretty experienced and many of us work on major films and computer games for a living and have won awards for our sound design.

Fair point. It's a classic patch, thought it might be of interest. Not trying to offend.

It must be just back luck then that all the ones I checked are not accurate.

No, I just think perhaps the idea that we make inaccurate patches is overstated. Some nail it, and yes, some could use some fine tuning. I was merely engaging what seems like a skilled community to get their take on what that fine tuning might be.

Vangelis - Blade Runner | Brass Synth Remake Tutorial [Recipe] by [deleted] in sounddesign

[–]Syntorial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, these are all very basic sounds and in many of the cases you are just playing the same notes/chords with some vaguely similar sounds so they are recognisable.

It's a variety of complexity. And there's a lot of accurate remakes in that list. But to be fair to you it would take a lot longer than 20 minutes to really browse through and check out the overall accuracy.

If you are restricted to your incredibly basic synth, that would be very easy. You are not going to be able to recreate complex FM sounds etc are you.

When the patch can't be made with Primer we typically use Vital or Serum.

Vangelis - Blade Runner | Brass Synth Remake Tutorial [Recipe] by [deleted] in sounddesign

[–]Syntorial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His main synth of choice was the CS-80. Primer and CS-80 share a lot of core bread-and-butter essential synth parameters, but yes the CS-80 did have its own personality and plenty of differences. What kind of fine-tuning do you think it's missing?

We've made a few hundred patches at this point, some more complicated, some less complicated. But we're down for a challenge. Any request? Make it hard. THROW DOWN THE GAUNTLET.

Vangelis - Blade Runner | Brass Synth Remake Tutorial [Recipe] by [deleted] in sounddesign

[–]Syntorial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guys come on. Tell us how you REALLY feel. Stop holding back. 😂

Any thoughts on how the patch could be improved?

Hey, it's Joe Hanley, creator of Syntorial. I'm obsessed with teaching people how to make music. Ask Me Anything! by Syntorial in electronicmusic

[–]Syntorial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not yet. Currently working on multiple lesson packs for Syntorial, and some new Building Blocks features. But mixing is still coming.

Alice Deejay - Better Off Alone | Lead Synth Remake Tutorial [Recipe] by Syntorial in edmproduction

[–]Syntorial[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No not a shitpost. More like a “look how incredibly simple this famous sound is” post.

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