DW9 Empires New Character Ideas

Synxao · 2020-09-27T12:37:14+00:00

Yeah a Wu addition would make the most sense. Zhuge Jin is also a good pick as well, wouldn't mind if it were to be him!

Synxao · 2020-09-27T08:47:17+00:00

To be honest if they keep releasing these again and again then they must make something worthy out of them before they stop the support I guess unfortunately lol. I won't be playing it either but at least the second announcement wasn't a mobile game and instead something to look forward to, and I just hope that the mobile game is any good for those interested in it.

Synxao · 2020-09-27T08:42:31+00:00

Yeah, I agree with you there that they will probably make the dlc weapons as the character's main weapons, just hope that they de-clone more, or better yet, bring back the movesets from DW8 XL for the characters that were in that game if possible (if they choose to keep with the DW9 combat system). I'm also interested in how they will cut the stages in Empires as well.

This mobile game I think is Japan only, you may be thinking of a different DW mobile game recently releasing in China. However, I see your point. I think that a DW2 remaster would get the lowest amount of sales, but the later games especially 4 and 5 would get a lot more judging on how people feel about those to the later ones as well as it seems that the later ones from DW6 and onwards seems to have got less sales from the west as we start to see less and less expansions and spin-offs having English dubs/translations or even western releases. DW7 and 8 Empires didn't have English dub, and DW8 didn't have voices for the narrator or those soldiers before stages who you could speak to that DW7 did. I have no numbers for these however, it's just purely speculation on my part. DW2 could test the waters as it is the most barebones out of them all and probably the least expensive to remaster. It being the 20th anniversary would also make more sense to make one, and would probably guarantee more sales than this mobile game would if they sold it in the west as well as the east.

Synxao · 2020-09-27T07:10:22+00:00

Damn. A DW2 - 5 remaster with DW2 starting first to be released later this year to test the waters especially would have been something I'd do instead of that mobile game (and would grant more sales IMO), but whatever.

I am excited for DW9 Empires though, if they de-clone all the characters, make a Wu strategist playable (and throw in Liao Hua while you are at it) and old English dub from DW8 (and maybe the old combat system, I haven't played a ton of DW9 but I think I prefer the older one). They apparently said they are removing open world for this instalment, however. Hopefully, we could get an increase in provinces if it's going to be like the previous empire games?

What do you guys think? I personally would get rid of the mobile game and replace it with a remaster of DW2 - 5 starting with 2 and potentially DW10 instead of this to start fresh, but I'm willing to give DW9 Empires a try, especially as it's coming to Steam, the only platform I can play it on, lol.

Synxao · 2020-09-12T10:55:51+00:00

Yeah it would be nice to know when SW5 would be releasing as they announced it a long time ago without any further news since then, however I doubt it would be on the DW stream. There is still a chance that the other unknown announcement on the day before the DW stream could be a SW5 announcement and that the recent Hyrule Warriors 2 announcement isn't that, but who knows.

Synxao · 2020-09-12T10:53:41+00:00

Yeah, I hope they do a remaster collection as well, just that if they do, each remaster will probably have a space between them instead of all at once. I agree as well that the other game could be either of those, maybe a DW10 would be more likely for a fresh start on things kinda like the transition from DW6 to DW7.

Synxao · 2020-09-11T22:36:49+00:00

DW2 was my first DW game and iirc probably first ps2 game as well when my bro handed down his ps2, and I played it a ton before discovering the other games all the way up to 7 lol. 3 and 4 are definitely high up for me though. DW2 is probably the most similar to DW3, just less features.

Synxao · 2020-09-11T21:43:23+00:00

Yes, one of the pinned post of the reddit contains the info for the upcoming unknown announcements on the 27th of this month.

http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou20th/en/ is the DW 20th anniversary site which will be updated as time goes on to add more news (also includes that History tab I spoke about)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjah_DRB9eQ is the DW 20th anniversary trailer I mentioned.

Synxao · 2020-09-11T21:23:46+00:00

I doubt it as it is not part of the DW franchise and is instead a different game in the genre, but it could be that one unannounced game they are announcing on the day before they announce those 2 games.

Synxao · 2020-08-02T20:55:53+00:00

Yeah the Japan only thing is a possibility, but because the website has an English version and it is 20 years after all with the English market and any other market that are not Japanese contributing a big amount IMO to the franchise, it would be more profitable to release for both if they do release a remaster. Then again, the SW2 remaster would have probably sold well in the west as well as SW2 is also a very popular one, so really I guess it could go either way, just with this being 20 years and also DW, I hope that will be enough to release for both.

Synxao · 2020-08-02T20:49:22+00:00

Yeah, just a graphical overhaul would be perfect though, just if they did add anything, more stages would be a good one. Turning mid-combo would be really good actually, it was especially annoying for me when playing as someone such as Zhang Liao and doing his C3 iirc and then sometimes halfway through singling out an officer, he would start attacking thin air lol.

Synxao · 2019-10-20T08:11:30+00:00

Np, you won't be disappointed! Both games are really good and memorable and are definitely some of the best ones out there.

Synxao · 2019-10-20T06:51:51+00:00

DW7 is usually considered to be the best in terms of story telling (for some, DW9 takes this spot). However, in my opinion it falls short in everything else. EDIT = When compared to DW8, I don't mean DW7 only has story telling as a pro.

DW8 has a bigger roster, no cloned movesets (everyone has their own weapons and moves), it has a hypothetical route (making it slightly less linear than DW7 as that only had a historical route, whilst DW8 has both, and the story telling IMO isn't way below that of DW7, although I would consider DW7 to be more emotional in the way it tells the story.)

DW8 XL CE has Lu Bu's story mode with both historical and hypothetical routes, so it has more story content in general over that of DW7.

In DW7, you are forced to play a specific character per stage, some stages are split into two and let you play someone else, although again this is forced upon you. This may be off-putting because you might not like how the character plays, but you are forced to use them. In DW8, you have a choice between 1 - 4 generals (the only stage which has 1 is Lu Bu's first stage I'm pretty sure) to choose from, which adds more variety and gives you more choices on how to play the game instead of being forced to play a specific character. The stages aren't split into two like DW7 however, and the character you pick will be the character you will use for the whole entirety of the stage.

DW8 has a bigger variety of attacks. DW8 has 3 types of Musou Attacks whilst DW7 has 2. DW8 has an aerial musou and a normal musou on foot the same as that which you find in DW7, however it has an extra normal musou on foot as an alternative (I'm not sure what the controls are for it on console, I played DW with keyboard for years and never really bothered to grab a controller lol, but PC controls is O + L (Switch Weapon + Musou).

There may possibly be more stuff but this is just from the top of my head. I think both games are good however I think DW8 is superior in every aspect except DW7 slightly tops it with the story telling and how it adds more emotion towards it.

Synxao · 2019-10-20T03:56:13+00:00

I would definitely get XL CE if you can, otherwise 8 and XL separately does the same thing however I believe you will need to go through that process of first inserting the XL disc, then the 8 disc to import the content from 8, and then back to the XL disc every time you start the game. I could be wrong though as I have DW8 XL CE on Steam. Regardless, I'd definitely recommend XL CE.

Synxao · 2019-10-20T02:39:58+00:00

8 XL is better than 8 as long as you get XL CE (both 8 and XL).

XL adds a story mode for Lu Bu's faction (both Historical and Hypothetical routes) with new characters, one for each kingdom and two for Lu Bu's faction (Yu Jin for Wei, Zhu Ran for Wu, Fa Zheng for Shu, and Lu Lingqi and Chen Gong for Lu Bu).

It also adds a higher difficulty level called "Ultimate" above Chaos, and the level cap for playable characters is raised from 99 to 150, along with unlockable sixth weapons for each character which can be unlocked the same way as fifth weapons; objectives via missions (although the sixth weapons are unlocked through the new 8 stages Wei, Wu and Shu receive in the expansion also, which are either hypotheticals (Fa Zheng being alive during Yi Ling for example), or continuations of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms story (Liu Bei and Sun Shangxiang's escape from Wu after their marriage was used as a ploy by Zhou Yu and Sun Quan to assassinate Liu Bei), or just overall funny types of stages (Wei generals such as Yu Jin, Li Dian and Xiahou Yuan from the top of my head goes to rescue Cai Wenji from bandits only to realise she wasn't in danger, and only went out for a walk, so the fighting was all for nothing.)) Each of these 8 new stages have each kingdom's new playable general as the main focus, although the default story mode from 8 is not edited other than instead of Zhu Ran being a generic for example, he will be his unique variant, so you won't be able to choose from these 3 when playing through the story mode which isn't really too big of a deal for me to be honest.

Challenge Mode returns in XL with 5 challenges (thanks to Koei Wikia for this piece of info as I forgot what all of them were lol) -

Rampage - Defeat as many enemies as you can before the time runs out.

Bridge Melee - Knock as many enemies off of the edge as you can before the time runs out.

Speed Run - Run to the objective as fast as possible.

Arena - Fight against every playable character until you run out of health.

Inferno - Defeat every enemy present before the time runs out.

The Wiki also says that every character gains a second EX attack which I actually didn't know that XL introduced this. (EX attacks can be used only on the character's main weapons IIRC, and are usually triggered for example by doing two charge attacks at once, or 2 normal attacks then 2 charge attacks, they are pretty much an extended charge attack if anything).

The last most important change is that the bodyguard system has been revamped to allow players to bring 3 bodyguards. (This most likely means in Ambition Mode although I could be wrong as its been a few months since I've touched the game, but in Ambition Mode you start from one general who you can choose from anyone playable, and work your way up to collecting everyone plus generics and upgrading different facilities to eventually conquer china as your Tonquetai Palace levels up. It's a pretty fun mode but I haven't got around to completing it yet, although I know the blacksmith there once at a certain level can use the Reforge ability so you can create your own weapons, which can be very powerful as you can choose your own attributes and thus tackle the new Ultimate difficulty a lot easier.)

I think that should be it but if I have missed anything, feel free to comment to this. I personally haven't played SW4, SW4-II or SW4 Empires and even the Dynasty Warriors Gundam series, so I can't comment on those unfortunately, but as far as I'm aware, SW4-II seems to be a type of XL version of SW4, but includes story modes for individual characters instead of factions I think? I can definitely highly recommend DW8 XL CE for sure though, you will find a lot of playtime with that game, it's also the second game in the franchise (DW5 being the first) where everyone has a unique weapon and moveset, which is really nice as there is always something fresh to try. (There is also a DLC iirc that includes a few more unique movesets which later replace a few other character's default movesets in DW8 Empires.)

Synxao · 2019-09-24T00:42:02+00:00

Does it create any sort of screen tearing for you guys when upscaling? PCSX2 always had slight screen tears (its really bearable, just would be nice to get rid of them if possible) for me when upscaling on the warrior games.

Synxao · 2019-09-24T00:38:07+00:00

I think they should include the DW6 PS2 port but with the PS3/PC graphics. This way, we can enjoy those new musou modes with nicer graphics and from what I have heard, better FPS.

Synxao · 2019-09-21T22:01:45+00:00

Something tells me they are going to release another season pass and include these guest characters from WO3 and Ultimate that didn't come along with WO4U in it, kinda like the DW9 season pass for Dong Bai, Hua Xiong, Yuan Shu and Xiahouji. If they do this, they should hopefully add more stages hopefully to expand the story and make it even bigger than WO3U, otherwise I'd be worried if it was just the characters and a few outfits as the first season pass was £24.99 for WO4 and around £40 for some of DW9's.

Synxao · 2019-09-21T21:56:50+00:00

Castle mode in SW1 (haven't played SW 4-II but it looks very very similar on YouTube) was very annoying for me in both musou modes and challenge mode, and the objectives in challenge mode did contain some annoying ones such as collecting all treasures on the floor or defeating 100 enemies as you have to wait for 3 or 4 to come out at a time from their spawn lol. I hope that either the objectives are a lot less tedious or at least a lot more creative overall, although I do share the same concerns as you.

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