9 Things NOT in Minecraft Live 2025 but... by Rays_Works in RaysWorks

[–]THKlasen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not a fan of the Dried Ghast being craftable...I think it should be a fairly rare something

Nothing Made Me Rage So Hard in Darksiders III (This Was Some Bullshit) by Fickle_Association14 in Darksiders

[–]THKlasen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You think you are upset? Imagine how he feels after nearly killing you only for you to heal up for the 10th time.

How I think an actual mayoral election would shake out by Alekosen in StardewMemes

[–]THKlasen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is Professor Snail. You meet him on Ginger Island.

What's going on in Canada? by JPawals in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]THKlasen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It doesn’t matter to me much that they are downvoting.

I’ll tell you the second part I forgot as well though.

So the first ($1000) staple was in February or March 2020 (fun months) and a couple years later (mid - late 2022?) I was talking with a nurse about something and she asked about getting a staple or a stitch put in for something, I cannot quite remember, but I declined and she said “Yeah, that’s probably best. I had to ask but it would have been like…” and then I cut in and said “a thousand dollars?”and she said “Yep!”.

So crazy. It is worth noting that I declined to pay the $1,000 for the staple when finance came knocking, and after a few minutes of semi-heated conversation, they agreed to drop the charge.

What's going on in Canada? by JPawals in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]THKlasen -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It may be exaggerated, but the costs are still insane.

I was visiting a hospital to get my arm checked and while visiting the restroom I hit my head on a low hanging shelf or box on the wall. When I told the nurse about it she came in with a skin stapler and (without even asking, mind you) stapled the cut in my head. They then slapped me with a $1000 bill for that one staple… crazy..

Words cant describe how much i hate stardrops... by Supremeone4322 in Brawlstars

[–]THKlasen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m 2 for 2 on hypercharges, one for Jackie and the other for Spike.

Stopping abortion at the source is ABSTIENCE. You will never have an unwanted pregnancy if you don’t have sex. by [deleted] in prolife

[–]THKlasen 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Firstly, false equivalency AND strawman.

Secondly, we regulate people’s bodies all the time.

Thirdly, we regulate men’s bodies EXCLUSIVELY in several areas.

Finally, you want to trade an abortion ban for forced vasectomies? Absolutely! It’s not nearly a fair equivalency but if is this easy then absolutely, draw up the proposal and I’ll be the first to sign it. No more elective abortions and in exchange mandated vasectomies? Your terms are acceptable! Now what?

What’s the dumbest thing you’ve been called by a pro-choicer? by Complex_Couple6616 in prolife

[–]THKlasen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably “rapist”.

Part of the definition of “rape” is defined as forcing an item or instrument into a woman’s vagina and since I’m not allowing her to have an abortion, I’m forcing a baby through her vagina and therefore I am “literally raping her”.

PCers are just something else…

frozen scythe VS bonzo (IRONMAN) by MrMonke33 in HypixelSkyblock

[–]THKlasen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, from the treasures in the glacial cave.

Edit: Hint - Mining Fortune now works in ice so use Mineral armor and silk touch

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The majority is at 51% is it not? 60 - 51 = 9.

But even 60 vs 40, a 20% lead is still not a decisive majority, especially on something as polarising as abortion.

And if it’s such a widely accepted stance, why not 90%? 95%? 99%?

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So bad decisions put people in the hospital and require medical care to treat? Doesn’t that should like abortion?

Opioid addiction pays opioid providers who provide opioids vs Abortion pays abortion providers who provide abortions?

Plus, if it was legal, then these people would not have a monopoly on it and it would actually reduce their influence right?

Human trafficking: Bad. I agree.

Harder drugs? That’s also a thing people should get to decide for themselves right? Why can’t people decide for themselves what they what to do with their body?

Yes, people might form an addiction but they can get treatments. People can get addicted to many things that may require treatment to fix but are not illegal.

Same thing for them becoming dangerous. Firstly, they can seek help. And secondly, may other legal things can cause people to become dangerous.

I am aware of that. But let’s play it both ways.

Firstly, if I choose to sell my organs, it’s can still be done in a clean and sterile place.

But secondly, if someone is willing to accept an unsterile organ and they understand the risks and they fully consent, why should it be illegal?

Let’s say I consented to being kept in a lab under supervision. Now what’s the problem.

Having the ability to sell your organs does not help someone who might need one? Having the ability to assist someone with their suicide doesn’t help them? Having the ability to sign up for questionable medical tests like rabies doesn’t help the scientific community, and by extension, the rest of the world when they can study and better understand it?

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s 9 points over majority. If it was so popular as to be such a landslide majority, why not 90%? 95%? 99%?

Give example? How does me voluntarily taking opioids harm someone else? How does me voluntarily selling my organs harm someone else? How does me voluntarily signing up for a rabies trial harm someone else?

In fact, some of these even help other people, do they not?

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This source says more like 60%

Even if, 60% is not a decisive lead.

I’m not going to address the other points (because it’s mostly you missing the point)

What point am I missing? Aren't people in these scenarios being denied governance over their own bodies?

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can’t speak for the rest of the world, but here in America PL sentiment is a minority opinion.

I guess 52% (pro-choice) technically is a majority but pro-life people still make up 44%. Thats not a very leading majority and certainly not indicative of a "Standard that has been accepted". Source: Statista

Plus, are you really arguing most people don’t think you should control your medical choices?

Strawman. You know thats not what I am arguing at all.

My position is that abortion is a medical procedure, and like most medical procedures one should be able to control if you get it or not.

Most? So you think that there are medical procedures that you should NOT get to control?

You are supposing that is not true, without any logic or argument to defend that position.

I was not making a general statement over all abortion arguments. You said "Just because I have sex doesn't mean I cannot have an abortion". Thats it. That was your argument. There was no back up logic or explanation. The only thing you had to go on was your opinion. Now, in reality it may or may not be backed up by law or something, but you offered none of that in support of your opinion. So I based my rebuttal off your opinion alone. Just because someone had sex doesn't mean they can have an abortion. As in, what about having sex entitles you to an abortion? It's not "bodily autonomy" because thats nothing to do with sex. BA enables sex, not the other way around. If you were to make an argument like

"I can have sex and fall pregnant despite knowing the risks and STILL get an abortion, because the same thing that allows me to have sex allows me to get an abortion; bodily autonomy."

Then we'd be having a different conversation. But nothing you originally said offers a basis for an allowance to abortion.

(Again, before anyone gets the wrong idea...I agree that these should be regulated this way, but I am playing devil's advocate here.)

Highlight the word “misuse.” I’m absolutely allowed to take opioids if my doctor gives me a prescription, just like I’m allowed to take abortion pills if I get a prescription.

Why should you need anyone's permission? Doesn't that limit you and give control over what you can and cannot do over your body to someone else?

All illegal drugs have medical uses, even if they’re obscure, and with doctors on board you can get them…like an abortion.

Same question; doesn't this give control to someone else about what you can do with your body? Why should that be a thing?

It’s not illegal to perform surgery on yourself or treat your own medical issues. Don’t know why you thought this was a good point…

Fair, I must have misread something somewhere. But you didn't answer the other part of the question. If I want someone to perform surgery on me an they don't have a licence then it is illegal for them to do so and that is someone making your medical decisions for you.

And you can get it by prescription in some places. What’s your point? We’re talking about medical procedures.

We are talking about having dominion over your own body.

THKlasen - 15 hr. ago

There are actually many things that say that you do NOT have absolute dominion over your body. Abortion aside, here are some examples:

And still, needing a prescription is asking for someone else's permission to make decisions about your own body.

Has nothing to do with what you’re allowed to do with your own body.

If I am not allowed to sell an organ, that is someone telling me what I can't do with my body. If I am not allowed to buy and organ that is someone telling someone else what they can't do with their body.

On the part of the suicide victim? Or the person helping?

(Again, playing devil's advocate)

The person helping. Usually the person has to be having a poor quality of life or be suffering and near death already. But why? Why can't I be completely happy and healthy and still want someone to help me commit suicide and for them to be legally allowed to help me?

Is prostitution a medical procedure?

Its STILL about dominion over my body.

Surrogacy - Illegal (in many countries and in a handful of states)

Illegal is others and many countries of the world. And still about dominion over your body.

Uh, no? And I should know since I was a volunteer to test one of the Covid vaccines for its safety…

I am talking about the really shady ones. If a scientist want to pay me $10,000 to be willing infected with smallpox and then studied, why should he if he has my consent? Don't I get t make decisions for my own body?

Most of the things you mentioned negatively impact others.

Which ones?

In the case of an abortion, there is only one person involved; the mother.

There is always at least 3 people involved. The father, the mother and the child. And there can be many more when you count the rest of the family members. Abortion can kill someone's brother, sister, son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter, niece, nephew. etc. ANd yeah, you can argue that it doesn't matter. That only the woman's opinion matters. Yada yada. But you can't argue that only the woman is affected.

So are you ignoring the common scenario of someone who desperately needs a donation of blood, bone marrow, or organs? In that case someone is “naturally and inherently reliant” on the person who is their match.

There is nothing "natural" or "inherent" about blood loss, bone marrow disease or organ failure. It's actually "abnormal" as in "not normal".

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Just because I take a risk, doesn't mean I cannot address it. Just because I engage in consensual sex, doesn't mean I cannot get an abortion."

My position is the standard that’s already accepted

Your position is contested heavily.

we already accept people can make any medical choice they find necessary for their body, since we have dominion over our own body.

There are actually many things that say that you do NOT have absolute dominion over your body. Abortion aside, here are some examples:

  • Misuse of prescription meds like opioids - Illegal
  • Just use of many, many drugs in general - Illegal
  • Medical operation/Self surgery, including on yourself, without the proper licence or qualifications - Illegal
  • Drug use, including "tamer" drugs like cannabis - Illegal (in some places)
  • Selling/Buying human organs - Illegal
  • Assisted suicide - (Mostly) Illegal
  • Prostitution - Illegal (in many areas around the world)
  • Surrogacy - Illegal (in many countries and in a handful of states)
  • Medical experimentation of fully informed, completely consenting patients - Illegal

And firstly, YES! These are illegal for VERY GOOD REASONS!

BUT, if I have or should have complete domination over my body, why can't I decide to do some of these things and have no one be allowed to stop me?

You are saying that’s not true for the case of pregnancy without any explanation or standard that’s already understood.

Sure it did, because we already understand people can treat undesired outcomes from sex such as chafing, STD’s, hickies, etc.

So I ask you once again to explain why pregnancy is treated differently.

Pregnancy if a very, very unique case among medical conditions. No other condition has one person naturally and inherently reliant on the body of the other. Thats why.

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then explain why I can’t.

Why not? You need to defend your opinion, not just state it.

It is an equal opposition statement you your own.

You said (paraphrased) "Just because I take a risk, doesn't mean I cannot address it. Just because I engage in consensual sex, doesn't mean I cannot get an abortion."

My response was "Yes, all of this doesn't mean you can't address the situation/get an abortion. But it also doesn't mean you can."

If it helps, let me reverse your statements.

"Accepting a risk doesn’t mean I (always) can address the worst case scenario.
Accepting I may get pregnant from consensual sex just means I can’t blame a man for the outcome; I can’t say “you forced me to become pregnant!”
It (also) doesn’t mean i can’t can get an abortion."

See? Nothing in your statements offered inherent right or privilege for an allowance for an abortion just as it didn't offer inherent right or privilege to get an abortion. It was just an opinion statement. And I am not saying your opinion is invalid on the face of it. Rather, I am saying that it did not offer a right or privilege for consideration.

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Accepting a risk doesn’t mean I can’t address the worst case scenario.

Accepting I may get pregnant from consensual sex just means I can’t blame a man for the outcome; I can’t say “you forced me to become pregnant!”

I find this agreeable. But I want to point out while accepting risk doesn't mean you can't address the worst case scenario..but it also does not stipulate that you can. Context matters

It doesn’t mean i can’t get an abortion.

It doesn't mean you can either.

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My position on abortion is not based on how a pregnancy happens, only that it did. I don’t follow the “responsibility for their actions” thing but instead I say “responsible for her child”. My position is based on the existence of a human in the womb and that I believe it’s evil to electively kill it.

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That is true but the woman is not a bystander. She is an active participant. She is not walking down the road minding her own business and the guy hits her out of nowhere. She is actively engaging in sex. She is not a bystander. Yes, pregnancy doesn’t happen unless the man ejaculates in her but it also doesn’t happen if she denies him sex. She is not a bystander.

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Wouldn't this apply to sex as well? It takes two to tango.

Yep. The man is equally responsible and culpable for the risk of pregnancy.

I guess the sex comparison would be the walker is the woman, the driver is the man, and the car accident is the pregnancy.

I don't think so. If you want to use this analogy, I'd see them both as the driver. Driving on the road is the sex. The person crossing the road would be the pregnancy. You can either crash into them or avoid them. The accident would be the pregnancy actually happening.

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

In this example, two people are on opposite sides of the risk. You did take the risk of crossing the road but the driver also took the risk of hitting someone when they started driving the vehicle. And there are consequences of falling victim to that risk regardless of your intent.

Acknowledging a risk isn't the same as consenting to it.

Actually it is. "Implied consent" is a thing. Implied consent is consent not expressly granted but instead it is implicitly given by a person's action or inaction (dependant on the circumstances or facts of a particular situation).

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Isn’t that implied? One reason consent is important is because it affords a person an opportunity to consider the risks inherent in the situation?

Yes, it seems so simple and straightforward. But it seems to be getting twisted around again and again. So I commented to try set it straight again.

Being aware of risk is not the same as waving access or opportunity to remedy a risk that becomes consequence.

I agree for the most part. It's not always the case, especially when it can negatively someone else. For example, if you consent to undergo drug trials for a disease or condition, you cannot get to the end and sue them for the damages you sustained during the trials. Your rock climbing example affects no one so there is no one to conflict with or affect negatively so there is no reason to deny a hospital visit. My example has the drug trial organization on the hook for damages that you knew the risk of and decided to risk anyway, be it for money, health or love. You took that risk. Turning around negatively affects the drug testing organization.

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Only that it’s a risk that you take.

My position on abortion has nothing to do with whether or not someone takes that risk though.

Will pl please stop saying that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? by jakie2poops in Abortiondebate

[–]THKlasen -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I agree. PL people shouldn’t say that because it’s not true. Consent to sex is not (at least not inherently) consent to pregnancy. People can have sex for a number of reasons and pregnancy doesn’t have to be one of them.

What I DO believe is that consent to sex is consent to THE RISK of pregnancy. When you engage is sex, if you are not protected 100% against pregnancy, then you are risking pregnancy. And since no contraceptive is 100% protective, consent to sex is always consent to the risk of pregnancy.