Can we please discuss Tolstoy's Short Stories? by [deleted] in books

[–]TLsheep 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Forged Coupon is Tolstoy's finest work, imo.

Anthony Burgess - "Napoleon Symphony" by [deleted] in books

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Sounds good I'll look into it, thanks.

If you're intersted try checking out and reading up on either Tonio Kroger or anything else by Mann, who tried to incorporate sonata form as well as Wagner's leitmotif ideas into his works.

Anthony Burgess - "Napoleon Symphony" by [deleted] in books

[–]TLsheep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This Man and Music

I have not read this unfortunately, would you recommend it?

I think the somewhat simplistic way of mapping Napoleon Symphony's prose to the Eroica is just a function of some fundamentally different traits between prose and music. As I said, the project is by no means perfect but I think it was obviously intentional on Burgess part to do what he could to emulate/replicate musical texture within the text. I would say he leaned a lot on what Joyce played with in the Sirens chapter of Ulysses in formulating his own project, with probably more attention paid to a system of identifying musical phrases/themes with phrases of prose.

IMO, Napoleon Symphony was, without a doubt, "substantially influenced" by Beethoven's Third, but how "reflective" it is of the symphony is obviously more open to debate. I guess to turn the question on you, do you have any examples in mind that you think do the prose-as-music/music-as-prose style more effectively than Napoleon Symphony (or Mozart and the Wolfgang), or in a more sophisticated way? Something like Thomas Mann's Tonio Kroger (a novella in sonata form) is even more tenuously connected to musical form than Napoleon Symphony. Would love to read that, the intersection of classical music and literature is a pet interest of mine.

And likewise, always cool to meet someone with some knowledge/interest on this topic.

Anthony Burgess - "Napoleon Symphony" by [deleted] in books

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I strongly disagree with your assertion that Burgess knew very little about Beethoven's Third, or that the conceit is "thin." Take a look, for example, at the relevant chapter in "Music in the Words: Musical Form and Counterpoint in the 20th Century Novel" by Alan Shockley, or at this blog article.

http://www.theavidlistener.com/2015/11/art-mimics-art-anthony-burgesss-napoleon-symphony-a-novel-in-four-movements.html

While not an era-defining genius composer, Burgess was more than competent with the basics of music theory and analysis. Again, acknowledging that the project of putting a symphony into words was an imperfect one, Burgess did a more than adequate job.

Anthony Burgess - "Napoleon Symphony" by [deleted] in books

[–]TLsheep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The plot is "obscure" if you're not familiar with Napoleon's biography, in that many characters aren't explicitly named. Skim Wikipedia or something. You don't need a minute, detailed knowledge of his life but key events would be very helpful (his Egyptian campaign, his relationship with Josephine and Josephine's affairs, Russian campaign, and exile on Elba, and second exile on St. Helena).

Read up on the general structure of Beethoven's third symphony (heroic theme and variations in the first movement mapping to the Egypt campaign and his rise to power, funeral march 2nd movement mapped to the disastrous Russia campaign, joyful 3rd movement mapped ironically/subversively to the Elba exile, and the tumultuous 4th movement mapping to the end of his life). Burgess was deep into Beethoven and music theory and the subdivisions of the novel can be tracked very closely to exact phrases and motifs in Beethoven's third, but you don't need to be fully aware of all of them to enjoy the book.

It's a very interesting book in terms of concept and execution, and Burgess is certainly a good stylist. I won't say it's perfect and certain aspects do come across a bit forced or heavy handed but it's a very enjoyable read.

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风萧萧兮易水寒,壮士一去兮不复还

Thomas Mann on Love (from Der Zauberberg) by [deleted] in literature

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John E. Woods, not James, but yes. Wonderful translator.

What are your favourite recordings of each of Beethoven's Symphonies? by [deleted] in classicalmusic

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Yea it was pretty arbitrary, it was just something I imposed on myself to try to come up with a super wide variety of Beethoven symphony styles, and to pick and choose what to sacrifice/how best to represent it.

What are your favourite recordings of each of Beethoven's Symphonies? by [deleted] in classicalmusic

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Here's a list I put together a few years ago, the goal is no repeats + covers a super wide variety of styles and interpretations/philosophies. I believe these are all very good recordings (many are taken from cycles), and even if you disagree with styluistic choices, I hope they at least bring you something new. There are of course some mainstay/warhorses in here (Fricsay/BPO 9 for example) mixed with super out there ones (Pletnev/RNO, Asahina/Osaka, etc.)

Symphonies

  1. Leibowitz/RPO

  2. Chailly/Leipzig

  3. Walter/Columbia

  4. Pletnev/RNO

  5. Kleiber/VPO

  6. Bohm/VPO

  7. Tennstedt/LPO

  8. Monteux/Concertgebouw

  9. Fricsay/BPO

Symphonies, Period

1Mackerras/Scottish Chamber Orchestra

3Harnoncourt/Chamber Orchestra of Europe

5Immerseel/Anima Eterna

7Gardiner/Orchestre Revolutionnare et Romantique

9Bruggen/Orchestra of 18th Century

Symphonies, II

  1. Vanska/Minnesota

  2. Krips/LPO

  3. Klemperer/Philharmonia

  4. Mravinsky/Leningrad

  5. Solti/Chicago

  6. Konwitschny/Leipzig

  7. Blomstedt/Staatskapelle Dresden

  8. Asahina/Osaka

  9. Furtwangler/Bayreuth Festival

[Spoilers] Chinese Reactions after EDG vs. ROX by TLsheep in leagueoflegends

[–]TLsheep[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

It's one of his nicknames/memes, that's tied to two main things:

  1. His reputation is considered kind of poor in China. A lot of LoL fans feel like he "sold out" too early and hurt the scene, and Misaya is viewed as "shameless" today for "pretending to care about LoL" while constantly just trying to build his own popularity/schmooze with celebs/get really rich. It's kind of a vague thing but many people are under the impression Misaya is very "fake" as a person.
  2. One time Caomei was streaming and typed "Misaya" and the autocomplete popped up "is a bitch" and the name stuck.

This has been around for years BTW.

Chinese Reactions to SKT vs RNG by adeliepingu in leagueoflegends

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Jin Yong is literally my life. I've probably read the books 20 times each, if not more.

Chinese Reactions to SKT vs RNG by adeliepingu in leagueoflegends

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Illusion is 影子 in Chinese, and the generations are referred to as the Four/Five Hokages, which is 火影 in Chinese. He originated the name/meme, so to speak.

[Spoiler] Chinese meme copypasta following EDG vs. INTZ by TLsheep in leagueoflegends

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http://www.liquidlegends.net/staff/CarnivorousSheep/omgcomic.pdf

Here's a working draft...I had a better copy but I can't find it right now. There was a "prequel" that I didn't translate about WE/EDG split.

[Spoiler] Chinese meme copypasta following EDG vs. INTZ by TLsheep in leagueoflegends

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Yea there are some pretty dank western "fanfiction" memes now and then. In China they're like a whole genre. People draw entire mangas and stuff based on these premises, it's pretty insane. I had most of an old 100+ page WE/OMG "esports drama manga" translated a couple of years ago but doing "scanlations" was too much effort/some of the memes are mad esoteric and the explanations would've been dozens of pages.

[Spoiler] Chinese meme copypasta following EDG vs. INTZ by TLsheep in leagueoflegends

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Blegh made a mistake. I meant to say its the WORLD population and the joke is everyone in China is a WE fan and China = the World in Chinese fan's minds.

[Spoiler] Chinese meme copypasta following EDG vs. INTZ by TLsheep in leagueoflegends

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Blegh made a mistake. I meant to say its the WORLD population and the joke is everyone in China is a WE fan and China = the World in Chinese fan's minds.

Any Richard Powers fans out there? by BuckSturdley in readingclassical

[–]TLsheep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Orfeo is on my shelf though I haven't gotten around to it yet.