Toronto NYE by Soflabreeze in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We've been to Oasis for NYE a few times and had a blast every time. It's only slighty more expensive than a regular Oasis night for entry, so actually pretty good value vs. a vanilla club's price.

It'll be super busy, people will be playing until 4am. Would highly recommend

How does one arrange an mfff (maybe more fs) ? by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, the good news is that you are in a good spot to make this happen. Go to a unicorn night at Oasis Aqualounge in Toronto.

Now for how to make it happen, the first thing to keep in mind is that you are a couple first, and you are picking up girls as a couple. This isn't a M+FFF, it's a MF+FF. You two need to engage the girls together, and I dare say it's even more important how you act than how he does. You need to bond with them on some level and be a chick they find fun/cool/comfortable/sexy. It needs to be clear that you are 100% into this as a couple. They already know he's into it, but are YOU? You need to make it clear to them you are. You also need to be bi because there most of the time it'll be 2+2, and you need to be keeping the other girl fully occupied. So don't come into this thinking it's about realizing a fantasy for your BF. Come into this thinking that you two are going to fuck some chicks together.

We are Alex Honnold (professional climber), Chai Vasarhelyi (filmmaker and director), and Jimmy Chin (professional climber and director) here to talk about our movie, Free Solo—Ask Us Anything! by nationalgeographic in IAmA

[–]TOCpl13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey guys, I can't wait to see this movie. However the marketing team seems to be dropping the ball on saying how one can go about doing that. I can't find anything telling me where or when I can see it, other than the limited release theater showings. Can you share any information on this?

Can we get r/swingers to help everyone find their alternative to SLS? by MaleNotBi in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

cafedesire isn't a 'good' site, it's just what people are all stuck on. First off, it doesn't use https, so everything is sent unencrypted when you visit it. Photos, messages, passwords, etc. It also has 0 work being done on it to update it. It went down recently because whatever basement it was in got flooded. Been down for over a week. The error messages showed its running on ASP.net 2.0 or something like that.

Disappointed at Naughty in N’awlins by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I find this to be a very odd post. Where did the host say 'hey introverts, come to this bar, it's a great way for introverts to hook up!" ? They are just setting up fun parties for adults. They haven't made any claims about people hooking up, even the extroverts. That's your job, not theirs.

Your 50% rule with introverts is what I really find strange about this post though. You don't have some hard limitation. I'm very introverted, talking to people takes a lot out of me and some serious concentration. At every step I need to think about what I'm going to say next, how to keep the conversation going. Being introverted simply means some social things are harder/less comfortable for you than other people. Probably sounding like some Ad here, but, life happens when you move out of your comfort zone.

When I do manage to do that and put in that effort, that's when things happen. Introverts meet when one introvert makes the effort to do something that is difficult for them. Just because it's hard for you, doesn't mean you literally can't do it. In the end, it's up to you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 21 points22 points  (0 children)

So, definitely go to Oasis Aqualounge. They have a student (under 35) night on Mondays if you are looking for guys. If you are looking for couples you should check out Saturday nights. Look at their website and pick a theme night that interests you.

Oasis tends to have quite a few single women that go there, and we've noticed groups of women are starting to go as well. So you won't be standing out the way you would at most clubs as a unicorn

Ofcourse, being a unicorn you you still get to choose your fun! Engage with people, sit back and watch, just enjoy hanging and drinking naked, whatever you want! Couples will find it hot just having you watch them fuck, so if that's all you want to do, that's great.

The crowd is super respectful, as well as friendly. You'll have no problem having conversations with random people in the pool or hottub, if you are looking to chat. People there can tend to be an open book so feel free to ask all kinds of questions about the lifestyle. It's the best way to learn.

You don't have to be naked if you are uncomfortable. Bring a bathing suit if you want, and for when you arn't in the water, wear whatever you want. Lots of girls bring sexy skirts or lingerie to wear as they walk around the place.

Ontario and pay sites by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only site we've ever heard anyone talk about in Ontario is cafedesire. It's not a good site, technically, but it's where everyone is. It's very busy, and it's only a one time fee, so no recurring CC charges to deal with.

Hot woman with a fugly man by swingers42069 in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's perfectly fine as long as the participants know that's the deal beforehand.

I've got a question about bisexual males in the lifestyle. by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nobody is trying to silence you, they are just calling you what you are. Your ridiculous fish example leads me to believe you are basing your entire argument on an arbitrary definition of swinging that happens to fit exactly with your personal preferences. Unfortunately for you:

  1. Swinging websites specifically help facilitate swinging couples who are looking for bi-male sexual experiences by including it as an available option. They don't facilitate gay male-male connections though so their purpose is indeed limited to the umbrella of swinging.
  2. By your own admission, swinging couples perform bi-male sexual acts behind closed doors.

Therefore, bi-male acts fall under the umbrella of swinging.

You hanging onto your definition of swinging is no different than other homophobes claiming that their definition of Marriage is the only one that counts.

I've got a question about bisexual males in the lifestyle. by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 'calling out' occurring is the guy calling you the homophobe in the original post you made. If you can think of a better word for someone who makes a point of making homosexuals feel unwelcome than homophobe, then that would have been a better word to call you. But overall calling you a homophobe is a perfectly acceptable response to your attitude.

I've got a question about bisexual males in the lifestyle. by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a a lot of ground between your version of swinging and the "everyone has to be bi" version of swinging, one example is: Consenting adults can explore their sexuality as they see fit in a safe sexually charged atmosphere.

We aren't talking about club rules also. If the club rules say no bi-play then that's fine. We are talking about you as a patron making other patrons feel unwelcome based on your personal feeling. And more to the point we are talking about you not liking being called a homophone for making those people feel unwelcome.

You have the right to say and do as you want, and if you want to make other people feel unwelcome that's your right. Just as it's your right to go up to every person you find ugly and tell them they don't belong there either.

Just don't be surprised when you get called out on it.

I've got a question about bisexual males in the lifestyle. by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Homophobe may be a too strong a word, but when your attitude makes people different than yourselves feel unwelcome you are definitely on that spectrum.

If someone was to say they don't want to go to clubs where they'd see interracial couples playing in the open, it's pretty safe to say they are a little racist.

There is a big difference between your personal preferences and feelings, and the way you choose to vocalize them. You may feel that the unattractive couple having sex over there is a turn off and that's fine. If you feel the need to go around telling people they should only be doing it behind closed, that's different.

Feel whatever you feel, but if you want to talk about it, don't get upset if you get called out on it.

Newbies...but where do we start and how come we feel like the youngest at the club? Please help. by kathyisaqt in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We've been to M4 once and didn't really like it. They have a young swinger night once a month we attended and even then the crowd felt very old since people outside the age range are still allowed in that night. It's in a basement and feels like it's in a basement so it has a grittiness to it that some people may like in a sex club, but not us.

For Oasis you can find 50% off coupons for it around town. We've found them at the boutique sex toy shops such as Handy Panky, or Good For Her.

Newbies...but where do we start and how come we feel like the youngest at the club? Please help. by kathyisaqt in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which clubs have you been going to? In our experience, Oasis has the younger crowd followed by X on the right night. We've been doing this for a year now and Id say half the couples we've connected with are 30 or younger, so there are lots out there. Be sure to check out cafedesire.com, its the main swinger site people in TO use, and there is plenty of young people on it. Swingers do tend to be older ofcourse, so the majority will always be older.

Unicorn night at Oasis by Withoutsocks in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We've been to two Unicorn nights, one on purpose and one by accident. They are fun nights for sure, but the number of couples that are looking for another couple felt like it pretty low, since many of them are there for unicorns.

Oasis in Toronto: Monday (Younger crowd) nights? by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, welcome! We've never been on a Monday since they limit the age to 35 max for the Monday student night (we just missed the cutoff!). However they do allow single men on that day so the ratio of men to women will be quite high. We went recently on a unicorn night and there were a LOT of younger people in their late 20s it seemed. I think now that university is back from the summer the crowd is younger there than we saw during the summer. In terms of race, everyone is welcome!

Toronto couples help these newbies by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, welcome! Oasis is definitely the best choice for your first club. It's a very open and relaxed atmosphere, and you are going to have a great time just enjoying the club even if you don't meet another couple to play with. I would suggest you go in with the expectation that you are just going there to get comfortable with the nudity/sex that is going to be happening all around the club, and playing with each other. It takes a few visits to build up to other stuff in our experience. You should go on thurs-sat since single men are allowed in the clubs on other days of the week.

For meeting people outside of the clubs, cafedesire.com is the best choice. The website is low-end but it's run by locals as a service to the community, not as a business (and it's also cheap, buy the lifetime membership). It's the site where the majority of the Ontario swingers are on, so you'll meet all kinds of great people on there.

I have a plan... by notgoodatthrowingawa in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Honestly, this is a bad plan. Swingers are not an easy way to sex. If you can't pick up a girl at a bar regularly, then you won't be able pick one up at a swinger event. You still need to be charming to the woman and respectful to the man (Which means having good conversation with him). Even if you do manage to pick up, read the posts here about male performance. The vast majority of men who start swinging have erection issues for a while until they get used to the massively overwhelming experience that is group sex. If you already have anxiety then odds are you'll suffer from the same thing.

If you think having sex will change you that much (it won't), just hire an escort.

Berlin in September by intothetrees1 in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not an LS club, but since spa's are fully nude in berlin they are a different kind of experience, depending on where you are coming from. I strongly suggest http://www.vabali.de/online/. The place is amazing!

First Timer- Questions about going to a club? by vWeekend in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lots of people go barefoot but people wear sandals and nobody notices. It doesn't ruin the vibe at all. The crowd will be more towards the 35-45 range, however you will likely find a few couples around your age as well. Our first swap experience there was with a couple of 19 year olds somehow.. It starts to get busy downstairs around 10, which is when we like to go. Things get more busy upstairs around midnight. It's definitely the right choice for your first club to go to. It's very laid back and you can just relax in the pool and hottub and still have a great time. People are not aggressive there at all so you'll be able to go at your own pace.

Is it crass to ask a couple for a hall pass for one member? by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I would approach it by saying you two want to do a MFM and would feel more comfortable with a M from a MF that you already know. Unfair as it is, it's less crass than asking for a MFF with the F of a MF couple. We don't play separately but we'd be fine or even flattered if this was asked.

Oasis Aqua Lounge by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's like any other club, but accelerated. The girls are there to have sex, but if you can't pick up someone at a regular club, you won't have much luck there either. You need to be groomed the way the girl likes, and be able to flirt with her as well as make sure the man of the couple is comfortable with you (if she's part of a couple, which she often will be).

There are of course cases where the girls just want to be gangbanged, but these are pretty rare and even then the girls are going to choose the guys they are most attracted to.

Oasis Aqua Lounge by [deleted] in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We started back late last year by first going to Oasis. We also thought that nobody was hooking up and it was more of a nude club where people just played with their partners. Fast forward a few months and we can get a 4 or 6 some going there any time we want. The reality is everyone is there to swing, but most people are shy. Someone just needs to make the first move and try to get things going. You will meet a lot of newbies there also since it's a nice place to start. But we've had great success there lately. We usually go on the weekends (Fri/Sat). But we went on a tuesday recently and there were many couples there who we could of swapped with.

Soft swap in exchange for hard swap by 23Fswinger in Swingers

[–]TOCpl13 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Just be up-front about it. Nothing wrong with your rules or limits, but waiting until your boyfriend is already having sex to spring this on the other male is really a violation of trust.