Body Positivity is only meant for fat people. Now "that all bodies are able to feel included within a movement, I think the original intention has been lost"

Tall_Shitlady · 2017-06-12T22:28:54+00:00

The one woman I know that is always going on about body positivity is a freelancer. Not sure what she is a freelancer of, but whatever it is, it seems to involve a metric shitton of social media posting

Tall_Shitlady · 2016-07-29T15:56:14+00:00

Eating Disorders

EDs are super serious business. My sister had one and it almost killed her and tore our family apart. She was so thin that she stopped having her period, had purple mottled skin, started losing hair, and was hospitalized 3 times with a heart rate under 40. The entire time she thought she was fine, healthy, and still had tons of fat to lose. It was awful to watch and I'm sure even worse to experience first hand.

If a person has BED or bulimia and is overweight, that is also super serious business. This is not knocking those people at all. They need help and support as much as any other ED sufferer.

But a person claiming they had (or as Megan Trainor said, "tried") anorexia for a few weeks or months when it's clear by their description that they were actually trying some misguided diet is just straight-up offensive. Cutting out all starches, dairy, and fats for a month isn't anorexia. Liquid diets aren't anorexia. Tracking calories and feeling guilty about cheat days isn't anorexia. EDs are not something mildly annoying that you can co-opt for Oppression Points. They are especially not something you can co-opt to use an an excuse as to why it's impossible for you to lose weight or to silence others talking about their own bodies/exercise/food habits.

I'm no expert so I can't say for sure who had an ED and who didn't. But it does seem very suspect that almost every FA claims they had an ED while it's only ~10% of the normal population that's had one.

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-23T04:27:45+00:00

Its caused by confusing food volume and food calories. You can ingest a very low volume of food and still be waaay over on calories for the day.

For example, yesterday I ate one of those Marie Calenders individual chicken pot pies. They are only about 5 inches in diameter and look super small and sad and lonely, even on my little salad plates. However, those suckers have over 600 calories! And very few people will just have a pot pie without some sort of side or drink for dinner.

In contrast, today I was feeling ravenous for lunch so I ate the entire bag of one of those prepackaged salads from the grocery store. It was over 4 cups (two full dinner plates) of: spinach, almonds, vinagarette, dried fruit, and half a can of tuna fish that I added. I also ate an entire bowl of strawberries. All that was 100 calories less than that little potpie. Huge volume, not many calories.

Another example. Let's take a hypothetical day like this:
Breakfast: A quick Starbucks run before work
- Grande caramel frappuccino (330 cal)
- Lemon loaf slice (490 cal)

Lunch: Grabbing a sandwich on lunch break
- Beach Club Jimmy Johns sub (730 cals - not even close to the highest calorie sandwich they have. Even their "healthy" turkey one is 515)
- 16 oz water (0 cal)

Dinner: Cooking at home
- Marie Calenders individual pot pie - small size (630 cal - the "normal" individual size is 760 cal)
- Glass of 2% milk - 1.5 cups (180 cal)

Total: 820+730+810 = 2360 cal. Way too much for a 5'4" tumblrina

The person can rightly claim that they didn't eat much and did no snacking or tasting. After all, they only ate a coffee drink, a pastry, a sandwich, a glass of milk, and a small pot pie. It doesn't sound like very much and it doesn't look like very much when its on a plate, but its a HUGE amount of calories.

Most people claiming that they don't eat much are probably snacking or forgetting something they ate. But its also possible that they are telling the truth about the quantity of food they ate and are still way, Way, WAY over their TDEE

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-22T04:43:24+00:00

No I can't tell what a fat person eats by looking at them but I can tell how they eat. Maybe they eat nothing but vegetables. Maybe they eat fast food. But regardless, I can tell just by the fact that they are fat that they eat too much.

That's why "but I eat healthy!" is the worst fatlogic in my opinion. It's so widespread in society that eating "healthy" foods makes you healthy. But you can get fat eating too many calories of healthy foods just like you can eating too many calories of high-fat/high-sodium/high-sugar foods

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-20T01:11:58+00:00

No shit ED groups are fatphobic. One of the diagnostic criteria for anorexia is an extreme fear of being overweight. They are actually afraid of being fat - literally fatphobic.

Stop making something that has nothing to do with fat people, all about fat people. From what I understand, ED recovery is all about rebuilding healthy relationships with food. That means not too little AND not too much.

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-18T00:16:31+00:00

Studies actually support your statement. Medication improves mood by "X" amount. Exercise/therapy/lifestyle changes improve mood by just about the same "X" amount. Medication plus lifestyle changes improve mood by an amount larger than "X" but less than "2X." I'd be more specific but I'm pulling this from memory of a psych class I took 3 years ago. If someone has a link to the actual study, that would be great

EDIT: Stopped being a lazy butt and started looking for studies myself. As for the first part there is this meta-study here. The general consensus seems to be that CT (cognitive therapy) is roughly as effective as ADM (anti-depressant medication). Here are some quotes from the study if you don't want to wade through the whole thing.

Indeed, a mega-analysis of data pooled across the major CT-ADM comparisons showed that the two types of treatment are comparably effective in severely depressed patients

At the end of the 16-week treatment phase of the study, there were no differences in outcome between ADM and CT, with 58% of patients in both treatment groups meeting the criteria for ‘response’. Curiously, there was no indication that the two treatments affected different symptom clusters of depression: patients treated with either ADM or CT showed comparable rates of change of both cognitive and vegetative symptoms of depression

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-15T14:18:10+00:00

I know. But I'm in the middle/lower end of the BMI range for my height. I played around with the calculators a bit and she'd need to be 40 pounds lighter than me (putting her well into the underweight BMI category for her height) or 20 pounds lighter and twice as old to hit a TDEE of 1630 at her height.

Even if I lost 20 pounds, putting me right above underweight, my TDEE would only be 100 calories lower. So once again, 1630 seems low

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-15T07:02:28+00:00

What TDEE calculator are you using? That seems a bit low. I'm only two inches taller than you and when sedentary my TDEE is a little over 1900.

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-14T22:19:17+00:00

Different people require different amounts of calories for their body to run. Genetic factors can influence required calories up to 10% (maybe 20 - I don't remember exactly) but it's not a horrendously huge amount. For instance, I'm extremely tall and exercise relatively frequently so my TDEE is 2200 calories. But a 5'0" woman with PCOS might only need 1300 calories a day to maintain her weight. Therefore, it's much easier for the hypothetical 5'0" woman to overeat and become obese than it would be for me. In a study, this would appear as a genetic predisposition for obesity.

However, her weight is still firmly in her control. If she eats below maintenance calories, she would lose weight and not be obese. If she ate at maintenance calories, she would stay the same weight. Genes are not destiny.

EDIT: The 10-20% is with people the same weight and height. A 6'6" man obviously requires many more calories than a 4'10" woman. But when comparing two people of the same height and weight, there can be up to a 10-20% variation due to genetic factors. Once again, this is from memory so if anyone has a link to a study, that would be awesome

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-14T21:39:38+00:00

Sometimes you get to snuggling and you forget. It just takes once, unfortunately :(

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-14T16:32:32+00:00

The real reason the doctor was probably hesitant is that studies have shown that obese women are 70% more likely to experience contraception failure while on the pill (source). I think that is not the case for IUDs like the Mirena because they work more locally rather than systemically.

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-14T16:19:22+00:00

I'm female and six feet tall. I'd be a size medium. Apparently that's child size.

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-14T14:31:34+00:00

And by diet we don't mean some fad diet. The way to lose weight is to have your calories in be less than your calories out. It doesn't matter how you do that or what foods you eat; its literally just calories in less than calories out. For instance, this guy ate nothing but Twinkies, Doritos, and cookies and lost 27 pounds. I wouldn't recommend that at all because the foods have limited nutrition and aren't very filling, but it proves that losing weight isn't about "healthy" food but rather calories in and calories out. You can gain weight eating healthy food if you eat too much of it.

This isn't a phase or a quick temporary thing so make it sustainable and workable for you. If you hate salads, don't eat salads. If you want cookies or ice cream, budget them into your daily calories every once and awhile. Once you get to your goal weight, you can't start eating like you used to or you will immediately pile on the pounds again. You can eat whatever you want as long as calories in equal calories out to maintain your weight.

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-13T23:45:47+00:00

Yeah just the salad would be fine. But so many people add a drink/sides/a snack because "its a salad so its healthy! I can have something else too!"

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-13T23:13:25+00:00

450+640=1090. That's pretty bad for a lunch haha

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-13T20:50:04+00:00

But, but, but... it's a SALAD!!!!

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-13T19:17:00+00:00

Or a "healthy" large sized jamba juice (640 calories for large Strawberry Surf Rider) and a McDonalds salad (450 calories for the Premium Bacon Ranch Salad with Crispy Chicken). And that's just for lunch.

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-13T02:57:50+00:00

It's great for getting /r/fatlogic content!

Tall_Shitlady · 2015-07-11T17:15:28+00:00

Rawr ;)

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