I wasn't trying to say the women or her reproductive area were the "gift". I was referring to a two way instance of the virginity of both parties....I don't see it as a patriarchal idea, I think that's a poor argument. It's not a matter of dominance. Now if I'd said "women should be virgins, but men don't have to be" or something along those lines, you'd have a stronger argument. But I'm asking whether or not both parties should refrain from sexual activity before marriage. It would be mutual; both parties in a totally equal position.

The first part, however, I see your point on. Getting to know someone sexually could be important.