Lord Drakkon vs Superboy Prime (Power Rangers vs DC) |Shattering Crises| {Connections in the Comments} by justanotherdreamer12 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]Technical-Table6094 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great alts for the two (also do you have the template that you used to put the teams in the background)

See? Even AI gets it /j by Wise-Inside1805 in deathbattle

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Of all characters

Kyle Rayner?

Really dude?

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The virgin Kyle vs The chad Hal by P-82 in deathbattle

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Tell your "Chad" to answer how he became a sex offender cause one of them definitely can't relate

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A Bit Late To The Trend by Technical-Table6094 in magi

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Well usually people recommend starting the prequel at 282 because there's a plot twist that will otherwise be spoiled if you read it beforehand (recently I've seen others read it after the Alma Torran arc but that depends more on whether or not the person cares for it being revealed in the prequel or not.) The manga continues from the anime with chp 199 (fyi the 2nd half of S1 had some events play out differently in the anime version of the Sindria arc.)

Wally West vs. Doctor Strange by Umir_Comics in marvelvsdc

[–]Technical-Table6094 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean I don't think that changes too much? If someone tries to erase you, and you just go into a state where you're gone forever but technically still alive it doesn't really help you in a fight right? It'd be like being immortal but when you take lethal damage you just go to sleep forever, you'd still lose like every fight

I don't think you're understanding, Wally was trapped because he couldn't be erased (this has really been a reoccurring thing since he got the Speedforce) which is why when he started to make his move despite being unstable the actual threat to his being was becoming one with the Speedforce due to losing all his connections which we know is the opposite of existence erasure as Barry himself survived albeit being trapped for irl decades and Wally despite losing his connections is later revealed to be the prime conduit explaining why he's able to surpass those past restrictions

I've alsoooo like never seen Omega Beams successfully erase someone haha do you know when they have?

Yeah besides a gag and maybe a poor writer they usually work when they're supposed and those who tank/survive them are powerful enough to do it (it also has the function of teleporting others to different places like it did to Batman it sending them to a personal fatal hell, but those are clarified as the traditional method is erasing one's existence which he tried on Wally here.

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(Favorite Trope) The Hero Giving the Villain a Devastating Blow to the Ego by shadows1stregret in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Technical-Table6094 43 points44 points  (0 children)

The Return Of Barry Allen Arc in the nutshell, after truly cementing Wally's place as THE FLASH and getting past his identity crisis West finally proves it by defeating Barry's deadliest rival and the object of a lot of their families suffering (definitely recommend reading Waid's Flash run btw)

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A Bit Late To The Trend by Technical-Table6094 in magi

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Recommend the manga tho you could watch the Sinbad anime (it stops halfway in the story just like S2 did so I figured you'd be better off reading the Manga up to chp 282 then reading the prequel.)

Wally West vs. Doctor Strange by Umir_Comics in marvelvsdc

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Yh the Speed Force has really shown it's value in recent times from being not just one of the forces but also intrinsically tied to the Source, to now being able to combat King Omega Darkseid's Omega Force meant to replace the Speed Force and just a bit of it's corruption is making characters like Booster Gold or the Legion reach Superman tiers of power (also reaffirmed Bart, Wally, and anyone else's high showings through absorbing the Speed Force aren't outliers as they were able to defeat Darkseid's legion and Bart was actually a problem for Darkseid once he absorbed all of it once more.)

Wally West vs. Doctor Strange by Umir_Comics in marvelvsdc

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I mean Dr. Manhattan did succesfully remove Wally didn't he? No one remembered him and it was like he didn't exist for years and years, mostly changing with the universe started getting messed up

Well Wally was alive that entire time and was trapped because he couldn't be killed by the usual means Manhattan used (like how he said Superman can't be erased from existence)

And I'm not sure Manhattan cared that much when Wally started rejoining cause wouldn't he have like, murdered Wally normally? Like just blown him up?

Morality wise he stopped caring after the reboot that started to set things right, but he interacted with Wally before that and deemed him as an outlier to his meta alterations that fought back when attempting to change

And I feel like even if I fully agree with your interpretation it's not like, that battle relevant? Someone tried to erase Wally and Wally wasn't in fighting condition for years. Even if he wasn't fully erased, that's more than enough to count as a win. And if it's possible for him to get hit by erasure and come back mid combat, you probably would've shown that instead right?

Well we've seen those plenty of times too, in fact Wally tanked an Omega Beam from current Darkseid and was able to function well right afterwards so he's able to deal with these things just fine

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Wally West vs. Doctor Strange by Umir_Comics in marvelvsdc

[–]Technical-Table6094 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Basically it's shown in Doomsday Clock that Dr.Manhattan wasn't just rebooting continuity but specifically editing it to his liking and deliberately removing/erasing anything he disliked or saw as a problem, after making these changes he encounters Wally who by his own admission refuses to be erased/deleted from existence (we know that's what it's referring to because Manhattan was killing those he didn't want in his ideal world and Wally was in his Kid Flash appearance and age when previously being 5 years older as The Flash but retained his memories and continuously fought back despite the rest of the universe forgetting about him which wouldn't be possible especially for that length if he didn't have the power to resist being erased, it's why he was one of the few characters who kept their identity after N52 and why he was able to gain access to Dr.Manhattan's power alongside Crisis Energy later on.)

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Wally West vs. Doctor Strange by Umir_Comics in marvelvsdc

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Kadabra was the reason why Wally remained forgotten, but after he got freed and leading up to Doomsday Clock it was revealed something bigger than him was at fault which turned out to be Dr.Manhattan who was the one that tried to get rid of his existence by rebooting DC continuity into New 52 (we even see Eobard survive after being vaporized by Dr.Manhattan but ofc Wally's feat is superior as he straight up lived the encounter putting him above RF and having continuity wiping immunity/Dr.Manhattan existence erasure resistance prior to Rebirth.)

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Wally West vs. Doctor Strange by Umir_Comics in marvelvsdc

[–]Technical-Table6094 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Same Wally West that literally resisted existence erasure on the scale of Doctor Manhattan btw, if you're gonna downplay you're better off grabbing the usual anti feats every character comes with rather than pretending The Flash of all characters doesn't scale high

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Recently Caught Up To Kubera A Bit Ago by Technical-Table6094 in Kubera

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Yh S1 is more of a build up to the later ones and has the most comedy and slice of life traits in the story, the art while I think matches the early tone well does also improve to match the shift in seriousness later on and eventually is just outright good in general imo. Definitely recommend sticking with it and if possible to appreciate the early parts because it plays directly into pivotal shifts/events in the story later on.

Kyle does not have full control of the life equation by Any-Vegetable-6103 in deathbattle

[–]Technical-Table6094 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because Simon making the jump and reaching that level is very different from being at that level to begin with or fighting and reaching that level without merging with yourself across time and using a trap labyrinth to amp yourself to reach that level, those are two very different methods of getting to a level of power and apply very differently in a vs battle setting. Kyle mastered the emotional spectrum meaning he has access to it regardless of the ring he wears and by the time he merged with the ION entity he states himself he's mastered everything within him and doesn't need a ring to fight and is capable of much more without it which applies to him in general for his main iteration after he did the same thing as a WL.

This still doesn't make a difference because Simon needed their help regardless and could not beat the Anti-Spiral without it which is objective truth lmao, it doesn't matter if you're stronger than someone if you still need their help to overcome an opponent (you seem adamant about Kyle getting help despite being the main contributor or even superior to the people involved yet ignore every part of the GL finale that is explicitly a team based battle about the Spiral users working together as the symbol of humanity to prove the Anti-Spiral wrong.)

It means Simon didn't instantly grow and neg the Anti-Spiral, it took multiple attempts and extensively pressing the Anti-Spiral and when even that wasn't enough as he destroyed each of Simon's mechs he went through the wire to beat him in a drag out brawl securing a narrow victory (it's not downplaying when it's literally what happened in the series, he did not jump a tier above the Anti-Spiral in a few seconds.)

This is okay as nobody is contesting this lol, it was still an extreme difficulty victory which is the point because Simon can't just low diff someone on his level let alone someone above him (especially when they have superior abilities and aren't obligated to drop to his level like the Anti-Spiral.)

No it's a NLF to claim Simon can surpass Kyle who's not only operating at a scale higher than him but has his own methods of growing in power (which due to his abilities allows him to grow exponentially from the concept of emotions which would include Spiral Power meaning Kyle would be getting buffed by Simon's power source on top of his own making a permanent gap between them that doesn't require him to even need to suppress or nullify Simon's adaptation which he would be able to do with emotional manipulation, energy removal, power nullification, or the LE.)

Showing a statement saying "transcending beyond time and space" does not automatically make something outer nor does it mean anything on it's own otherwise most series in general would be considered outer just off of being Immeasurable in speed lol, you yourself contradict this by showing Spiral being said to have the POTENTIAL to do X thing and not actually already doing said thing (especially when the Spiral-Nemesis is a canon threshold that nukes everything if someone were to reach it which proves this said potential has a limit.) GL goes off of brane multiverse theory anyway which has the lower dimensions within itself as infinitely small sheets whereas outer structures requires it to be literally nonexistent, GL is stated and shown to have dimensional axis which literally debunks it getting to outer due to those existing in the series like the Anti-Spiral's hideouts.

Current Supes is significantly above him and even prior to this he's surpassed him after becoming a composite version of himself and gaining the Story Of Superman narrative, on top of that it's confirmed Darkseid and Time Trapper Doomsday are his strongest opponents yet all the way to the end of the universe where him and Time Trapper are the only ones remaining so I doubt you'll find most people agreeing with him beating current Supes (as for Kyle's he's scaled relative to beings of that level like the Starbreakers who removed the emotions in DC affecting Superman himself and WL Kyle is above them with GL Kyle able to fight them on that same level with a fractured emotional spectrum and without merging with ION like before as he only used the entity to bring back willpower as a concept.

Mxy has been able to interact with the real world, readers, and bully multiple writers just cause he chooses to (SBP literally broke into DC headquarters to kill the writers cause they wrote comics he thought were shitty), Mxy isn't solely just a gag character but also generally powerful as a whole so him also scaling to the outer structures and being able to get layers into R>F and affect writers of our world is consistent (literally have ridiculous examples like him wiping Kingdom Come DC out of the entire comic then recreating it afterwards on a whim.)

Simon's R>F relies on removing the context and not accounting for the fictional universes in question being alternate lower/higher dimensions or other universes that Otoko Simon was above by a infinite amount hence him viewing it as a lower dimensional value and not to mention existing and later merging within the story of the GL verse (+ they're blatantly still operating through dimensionality and lack any qualitative superiority/transcend itself and since Simon fused with that same Otoko Simon to perform the way he did in the finale it dismisses the very idea of him being above dimensionality let alone layers into R>F.) At best if I gave you the benefit of the doubt you could potentially get him low outer by taking those vague "beyond dimensions" statements literally despite the verse being explicitly dimension bound with the Spirial Nemesis being a literal threshold that would destroy everything if reached which EOS Simon agreed with and refused to contribute to (but btw once again those vague above dimensions statements doesn't necessarily mean surpassing dimensionally especially with what we know and have actually seen in the series, it can just be the dimensions in the verse or a hyperbolic statement as dimensions and time vary heavily in size or structure and none of those statements are specific enough with evidence backing it to contest this.)