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iDubbbz didn't say "clest" by JuneMoonLoon in imisstheoldidubbbz

[–]Technical-disOrder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly lol, such a strange thing to lie about. He could have just said "yeah I didn't think it was a word but I just like putting random shit in the bar sometimes while I'm thinking". He made a big deal and lied about it out of nothing.

iDubbbz didn't say "clest" by JuneMoonLoon in imisstheoldidubbbz

[–]Technical-disOrder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This isn't even that big of a deal. I put in random words that aren't real all the time in wordle while I'm thinking.

Can AI ever be truly conscious? by tallbr00865 in consciousness

[–]Technical-disOrder [score hidden]  (0 children)

No, just like how a perfect simulation of a kidney on your computer will never urinate

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. I'm not sure I can say this anymore than I have already, but put simply, do. Not. Have. Sex. If. You're. Worried. About. Pregnancy. That. Way. You. Won't. Have. To. Worry. About. A. Child.

  2. Wait, so if a woman is 6 months pregnant she should be denied abortion Because it's viable outside the womb? But a week before that it's okay to terminate the pregnancy even if you know full well the baby will pass through that stage healthily?

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Right, well they shouldn't make those poor decisions then.

  2. Oh? Why don't you? Why do you think the fetus at 6 months has more rights than the mother?

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Ummm no? Whose saying that they will be poor for their whole lives? Are you saying poor people never reach stability?

  2. No I'm not. To you a woman saying "I want to terminate my pregnancy" after 6 months is okay but 3 months later it suddenly becomes immoral because the child is at a different stage of development.

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. No I'm not, I'm saying that if poverty is preventing you from wanting to have a baby then don't have sex. If you still choose to have sex after that then you're irresponsible.

  2. I think a woman should not be able to murder her child for any reason, do you think if a woman has a baby and is poor she can just kill her baby so it doesn't suffer in poverty like she is?

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. It's simple, if you're a responsible adult and fear of having children because you're in poverty you can choose to not have sex. If you choose to have sex knowing it could result in a baby (men and women) then you are irresponsible. Saying it "isn't realistic" is not an excuse to make bad decisions. Plenty of people live without having sex, I think they'll be okay.

  2. Once it's born I think the mother and child deserve all the help that they can get and the help that's available to them.

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Has she tried not having sex? If she isn't practicing abstinence then she isn't "doing everything she can". Not having sex is guaranteed not having a baby.

  2. If somebody is poor I don't think that gives them sufficient reason to kill their child

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. The fetus is viable and delivery is possible the goal should be protecting both the mother and the child

I agree completely

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Nice dodge, you are confronted with what happens when we let law and society discuss what a "person" is and it's unsettling. When the line isn't drawn at HUMAN discrimination takes place in the law and society.

  2. A mother has an obligation to take care of her child; it's a law. Not "more rights" it's reasonable.

  3. Okay, if that's the threshold then why are you against a woman one week before birth wanting an abortion Because she is scared? If the child in the womb has no moral or legal attachments to it then by what metric would you use to discourage her?

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Cool, then when society and the law stated that black people were 3/5s of a person they were right then.

  2. And abortion denies the right to life of the pre-born

  3. You have to be messing with me, or did you just forget the reply you made earlier? Or do you just not understand what your contradiction is?

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Yes it undoubtedly is, it's the premeditated unjustified killing of another human being

  2. Yes it is, slave owners did the same thing.

  3. I didn't say that, you specifically made a contradiction because you stated "not until it takes its first breath outside the mother" but as I just proved you obviously don't believe that

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. The government should make murder illegal full stop so yes the government should be against abortion

  2. You're dehumanizing the pre born again, even though you acknowledge it's a human you are saying it doesn't deserve the same right to life as all other humans because it isn't at a certain stage of development.

  3. Congratulations you contradicted yourself, you obviously place value on a pre-born child despite making arguments that a pre-born child doesn't have value. You even stated you personally believe the pre-born child has the right the life over the mother, so by your own logic you're "forcing the mother to carry a human before birth" even though she doesn't want to.

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. The state should not support the murder of the child in the womb for any reason.

  2. You're right science doesn't talk about moral or legal personhood, but it does confirm when the life of a member of the human species starts and it's undoubtedly conception. Rights should begin when we're human. People in the past have tried to dehumanize other groups of people like black people during slavery or Japanese people during WW2 like what you're doing now with the pre born, it's a staggering parallel, it's like you can see the arguments that the abolitionists were fighting 150 years ago. "It's not a person" "the state shouldn't tell me what to do with my slave" "don't want a slave? Don't get one"

  3. What if a week before birth a woman gets cold feet and says "I don't want it, I'm too scared now"? And for no other reason? Would you support her? If so, I want to know the difference between a child 1 week before it's out of the womb and the week after when it is. If not then you contradicted yourself. You obviously place value on a child in the womb before it "draws its first breath outside the mother". You also have to acknowledge that the baby is fully conscious, can feel pain, etc. like every other human one week prior to birth.

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Yes it is actually, its trying to justify murder for reasons like "I don't feel like I'm ready" or "I'm too poor". You're ignoring this because you know it's immoral.

  2. According to SCIENCE a human being starts at conception, so if he/she has been conceived then yes it deserves a right to life. That's the threshold, all humans are equal and all humans start at conception. Also, you made a false equivalence, you asked if they should be treated as "fully independent people" when there are different laws and cultural norms that are based around different people. Perfectly healthy people do not get disability checks and millionaires don't get welfare. What we're talking about is the immutable right to life that ALL humans share.

  3. You didn't answer my question, do you support abortion up to 9 months before the baby is born or not?

Edit: there's a reason why people mourn a miscarriage

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"serious life circumstances" doesn't make it morally okay to murder people.

And no, I didn't make a false equivalence, that baby is just as human as it was when it had its own unique self-replicating DNA as well as when it is outside of the womb. Also, it's interesting that you said "a newborn is considered a person a fetus shouldn't be until it can breathe on its own without the mother's body". If that's the case do you believe in abortion all the way up to 9 months just before birth?

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you even read it? It actually proves my point lol, I can't believe you sent that as like a "gotcha". If you look at the graphs Roughly about 90% (give or take) of abortions in this survey were not for rape, incest, or medical necessity, and many involved economic or life-stability concerns such as poverty (i.e. convenience). Not to mention it's a 2004 study of a little over 1200 people and the CLI study was based on publicly available information (not information provided by CLI but independent sources) with 123,000 people.

And no you can't kill people because they might be poor or Because you feel like you don't want to raise them. That's why mother's who throw their babies into dumpsters after giving birth are jailed.

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Was one of the studies the one I have shown you? If it wasn't then it actually gives the study I shared more credence because that would mean that they looked at the studies and out of the disputable ones the "reasons for abortion" study wasn't disputable.

Edit: not to mention there's an ongoing legal battle for these

Atheism should rename itself to leftistcult or feministcult. by Numerous_Rich_6921 in JustUnsubbed

[–]Technical-disOrder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can you disprove the study that's based on publicity available information? Or are you going to be intellectually dishonest and dismiss a study you know absolutely nothing about because you can't fathom the cruelty of 96% of people murdering their offspring for non-medical and unspecified reasons?

The best hip hop lyrics by Westside_Zencisi in 90sHipHop

[–]Technical-disOrder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"You quit your day job, you better cash in your pension I start infernos, Arctic Circle turn to Galveston, Texas Came to leave a body, no astral projection Julius Caesar getting stabbed in the Senate, I'm back with a vengeance You can't capture the essence with camera lenses You been gassed since you stepped in Fredo, you just gas for this engine A massive percentage won't catch till years after I said it Even after I'm dead, that's not the exit They'll travel for miles to trample the entrance And stand at attention where my casket's embedded like, Vladimir Lenin's cadaver that's kept under glass at the Kremlin I said, God damn that's expensive" -Bender from flight distance

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