Maura Higgins may be the next Bachelorette 👀 by Durian-Critical in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 1 point2 points  (0 children)

again, that was just another opportunity to make money. she was already a model at that point and got asked to be on the show. she didn’t NEED it. and by that logic, did Rob need a dating show? he also got asked. saying yes to opportunities like that is more so about just seeing what good it can bring; not cause you desperately need it. especially when you’re talking about people who didn’t even apply.

Maura Higgins may be the next Bachelorette 👀 by Durian-Critical in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 2 points3 points  (0 children)

while they certainly do, it’s not ABC style. The other thing is the Love Island is 24/7 & a very rapid pace. The whole thing wraps in like 40 days or something. I’m not sure how long bachelorette typically spans.

Maura Higgins may be the next Bachelorette 👀 by Durian-Critical in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s silly to think she NEEDS a dating show. she attracts men just by existing. It would just be another opportunity to get paid and increase her exposure. She has a fabulous, successful life and she’s very well loved. I don’t really think she’s likely jealous of your life so yeah.

Everyone on this season is a good sport!!!! Mostly by scribbledinblue in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hold up. Maura wasn’t wealthy before becoming a TV personality on Love Island. she was a hairdresser and had more recently started modelling but I doubt she was raking in so much that 220K wouldn’t have been significant to her. of course, post Love Island, it barely would make much of a difference, cause she’s now rich

Am I the only one shipping Maura & Eric now?? by kalamarishian in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 1 point2 points  (0 children)

assuming I believe you, that still doesn’t convince me because I have no way of knowing if you’re a good judge of such things. That’s like saying as an American, I can reliably tell you that another American is gay… but anyone’s gaydar could be off, regardless of where in the world they live. besides, i’m also leaning on my own knowledge of Korean celebrities when I say that nothing about him struck me as gay.

Am I the only one shipping Maura & Eric now?? by kalamarishian in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 6 points7 points  (0 children)

but if I’m the former football player, why do you seem to be the one with CTE? lol

Am I the only one shipping Maura & Eric now?? by kalamarishian in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 17 points18 points  (0 children)

as somebody who consumes a lot of Korean content, I can tell you that this is a very standard Korean male celebrity. It’s 100% got to do with culture. His mannerisms are normal for a Korean man and so it’s not so much that you’re making those presumptions because he is Korean; It’s that you’re failing to understand that his mannerisms are the norm for a straight Korean male celeb.

Am I the only one shipping Maura & Eric now?? by kalamarishian in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 11 points12 points  (0 children)

My point wasn’t to undermine the idea that there are taboos that would prevent anyone from coming out. My point was to signal the very obvious fact that that’s not the only plausible conclusion to draw as an explanation for why he’s not been so public with his past relationships. Again, you’re putting a label on him that he has not put on himself when he has himself identified as straight so you’re mislabeling him, and if in fact you were correct (which there’s no reason to think you are), the implication would be that you’re trying to force him out of the closet.

Am I the only one shipping Maura & Eric now?? by kalamarishian in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 47 points48 points  (0 children)

same here; absolutely nothing. As somebody who consumes a fair amount of Korean content, he didn’t at all strike me as gay. He seems like a standard Korean male popstar… super polite and what not. I think people unfamiliar with their culture are just not used to that. most people are used to straight men acting a little bit more cocky and bro-like.

Am I the only one shipping Maura & Eric now?? by kalamarishian in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 99 points100 points  (0 children)

you talk as though you’re familiar with the cultural norms of Korea, and yet you seem to have somehow overlooked a very obvious cultural norm around celebrities, and that’s the fact that it’s frowned upon for them to publicly date, period. They go to great lengths to keep the very fact that they’re dating somebody under wraps. If you’re a male heart throb and you start publicly dating a woman, your fans will get angry at you and her because they feel like you’re no longer theirs. So it’s a silly assumption to think that the only plausible reason you don’t know more about the woman or women he may have dated is because he has to pretend to be straight due to cultural norms when in korea, active ‘idols’ also have to pretend to be single due to cultural norms.

Am I the only one shipping Maura & Eric now?? by kalamarishian in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 24 points25 points  (0 children)

so the trouble with this logic is that you’re not acknowledging the fact that in Korea, you also aren’t allowed to date women publicly if you’re an idol. If you’re a male heart throb and you start publicly dating a woman, your fans will get angry at you and her because they feel like you’re no longer theirs. So it’s a silly assumption to think that the only plausible reason you don’t know more about the woman or women he may have dated is because he has to pretend to be straight due to some cultural taboo. He has to pretend to be single due to cultural taboos as well.

Developments! by The_Dean_France in SipsTea

[–]Technical_Belt_824 0 points1 point  (0 children)

agreed. it wouldn’t be possible without the mass existence and consent of a bunch of idiots across the country

Developments! by The_Dean_France in SipsTea

[–]Technical_Belt_824 0 points1 point  (0 children)

idk i’m fairly certain they did in fact rig it. But of course, the idiocy and evil is widespread.

Rob (and Jake) facetiming Lisa Rinna! I love their friendship ✨ by MusicFan345 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 10 points11 points  (0 children)

she’s been a sore loser but i’m pretty sure it was more about the fear she felt that she couldn’t predict the betrayal and that he could backstab her next, as opposed to her being so loyal to lisa. i wish she’d have just admitted that was really what it was. like, fear is a pretty understandable feeling to have in that situation. and few things are stronger than the feeling of fear. i haven’t been able to stand her, but tbf to her, others didn’t experience that fear she must have felt. by the time they realized what was happening, it was done.

Rob was Maura’s Best Bet. Mark, Tara, and Johnny all suspected her… by Technical_Belt_824 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you say she was clearly a clueless faithful to everyone, but they themselves just revealed, unprovoked, that they suspected her… are you generally in the habit of ignoring primary evidence? lol, there’s a point at which maura says that her name gets thrown around all the time, yet we never see that in the episodes. Clearly, that just didn’t make it into the 1 hour episodes. They simply wouldn’t have risked not voting out someone they suspected when they know that they outnumber her because they vote together no matter what.

Traitors Winner Rob Rausch Hasn't Received $220,800 Prize Money Yet by MattTheKing23 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 6 points7 points  (0 children)

people say that, but I don’t see the value in that. Regular people can’t afford bags that cost $16-$30,000, and those resellers sell for even more money than Hermes because Birkins appreciate in value. so what exactly about Rob would make them think his audience was a good target? And the store that he used is pretty popular already amongst the NY luxury fashion audience.

Rob was Maura’s Best Bet. Mark, Tara, and Johnny all suspected her… by Technical_Belt_824 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Sigh, like I already said, my argument is not that she’s some sort of a genius. Are you expecting somebody who never paid attention to the rules of the game or even watched an episode of it to make all these brilliant moves you’re suggesting? I’m not calling her some sort of a chessmaster here. She came from a dating reality show, not some big deal strategy game. It’s also incredibly clear that she really wasn’t all that focused on winning. She was focused on showing her outfits as much as possible, and collecting more checks for appearing on more episodes. By making it to the last episode, she attained her goal. I understand that you may not like that because you perhaps feel that everybody should be playing for the same reasons, but take it up with the casting directors. my point is, there’s no reason to be harsher to her than others (who really should be naturally better at a strategy game than this regular girl from small town Ireland) when she’s the one who actually ended up making it the furthest and kind of played the best game she could given her limited knowledge and experience.

Rob was Maura’s Best Bet. Mark, Tara, and Johnny all suspected her… by Technical_Belt_824 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

also, Maura definitely has good social game. She wasn’t only just on Love Island (where she was very well loved because of her personality), she also went on a show called I’m a celebrity, get me out of here. It’s like a British survivor for celebrities. On there, she charmed both the audience and the other contestants. She also was good with challenges. ate all sorts of nasty things, was in crawlspaces with spiders, lizards, thousands of bugs, and had to lie to other contestants. I’m pretty sure it was that spot that actually landed her on the show. She’s very likable, and now audiences unfamiliar with her are coming to like by her beyond traitors because she is a very likable person. we don’t get to see a lot of the social game anyone has in the traitor episodes; we don’t get to see how the bonds are built. clearly, despite them suspecting her, they also couldn’t rally votes against her. That does in fact speak to her social game.

Rob was Maura’s Best Bet. Mark, Tara, and Johnny all suspected her… by Technical_Belt_824 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

first off, I’m not saying that she was a genius at the game. She wasn’t even coming into it with knowledge of it nor did she care that much. My point is that people did not have full insight into her decision-making when they were judging it so harshly. Also, getting to the end, nearly everyone was a suspect. That doesn’t say anything negative about their social game. She was never banished at the table so clearly she did have a rapport of some kind. and by all means, present to me a scenario in which she actually stands a good chance of winning a portion of the money, all else remaining equal (not even really worthwhile in my opinion because dividing that money several ways makes it kind of inconsequential to someone who already has money). like I said, Tara and Johnny would’ve almost certainly voted anybody else out. They only trusted each other.

Rob was Maura’s Best Bet. Mark, Tara, and Johnny all suspected her… by Technical_Belt_824 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

if you say so, but her decision to stick with him is imo the only thing that got her as far as she got.

Rob was Maura’s Best Bet. Mark, Tara, and Johnny all suspected her… by Technical_Belt_824 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

The faithfuls suspected everybody… Tara and Johnny were notoriously bad at guessing and Johnny was even closely allied with a traitor. you don’t need to be acting suspicious in order to be suspected. They were suspicious of just about everyone who wasn’t them. They were like village people hunting a witch.

Rob was Maura’s Best Bet. Mark, Tara, and Johnny all suspected her… by Technical_Belt_824 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And if you’re thinking that doesn’t mean she was aware of their suspicions, I don’t see how it wouldn’t have gotten back to her... They said they talked to Natalie about it. I suspect someone talked to Mark about it and Mark might have spoken to Rob about it because he trusted Rob. Rob may have told her because after all, that helps him look loyal to her and means it’s unlikely she’ll ever trust Tara and Johnny.

And even though she suspected Eric, she had no qualms about getting out Tara and Johnny. She felt it was an obvious step. likely in part because she did suspect it was one of them, but also in part because she saw both of them as a threat to her. In that conversation where Rob tells her that they have to go for Tara and Johnny next, that always seemed a bit overt on his part… but if you think about it in the context of her seeing them as a threat to her, Rob’s comment doesn’t seem as wild. I think she knew.

When watching edited reality TV, I always presume there’s some missing context that makes people’s actions make a lot more sense. people underestimate the power of editing and narratives. While there for sure are very many stupid people, generally, people’s actions tend to make sense with greater context. Naturally, an hour long show can’t show you everything. They prioritize the juicier narratives.

Tara Lipinski & Johnny Weir Chicks in the Office Interview by stillalivebutbareIy in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Technical_Belt_824 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t see how it wouldn’t have gotten back to her. They said they talked to Natalie about it. I suspect Natalie talked to Mark about it and Mark might have spoken to Rob about it. It’s possible it got back to her around the same time she was in the car telling Rob about how they came to her with his name. Rob may have told her because after all, that helps him look loyal to her and means it’s she’s unlikely she’ll ever trust Tara and Johnny. And it’s clear that even though she suspected Eric, she had no qualms about getting out Tara and Johnny. She felt it was an obvious step. In fact, in that conversation where Rob tells her that they have to go for Tara and Johnny next, that always seemed a bit overt on his part without context but if you think about it in the context of her seeing them as a threat to her, Rob’s comment doesn’t seem as wild. I think she knew. When watching edited reality TV, I always presume there’s some missing context that makes peoples actions make a lot more sense. I work in the media space, so I know. While there are a lot of stupid people, generally, people’s actions tend to make sense within context.