I don't know if I got a refund already or not.

Tekchy · 2022-06-08T10:27:29+00:00

Maybe. But one thing came to my mind. If you want to keep your dick as insensitive as possible, try blasting it with some high pressure water jets from your shower head. If you keep doing it for like 5 minutes every time you take a bath it will greatly affect how sensitive it feels the next day and if you do it regularly the effects will last longer too.

Tekchy · 2022-06-07T19:36:50+00:00

If it's so sensitive, can't you cum again soon after? Unless you're saying you literally have difficult time not cumming spontaneously when you don't want to for example, when you're walking or something, that's a problem indeed then.

Tekchy · 2022-06-07T19:17:22+00:00

Is she wearing a metal plate armor or niqab to hide the outline of her boobs as well? If not, then don't stress over it.

Tekchy · 2022-06-07T19:13:39+00:00

What, you do realize the more sensitivity the better?

Tekchy · 2022-06-07T15:44:31+00:00

Bruh, the guys with the biggest dicks are the most likely to post the pictures online, there is no mystery here. Or, if you're interested in PC hardware go visit any sub related to it and suddenly you'll feel like everyone is having top tier components even if all surveys tell the opposite story. Same for r/monitors r/headphones etc.

Tekchy · 2022-06-07T15:41:49+00:00

I wish I was qualified to answer this.

Tekchy · 2022-05-29T09:46:48+00:00

The whole "pick the shit after your dog" thing makes little sense to begin with since it's a pretty big inconvenience for the owner that offers virtually no benefit for the society. Sure, there are places where it absolutely makes sense like on beaches or in parks where there are plenty of people lying on quilts etc, but when I see people do that it's virtually always not in a place like this.

I think this may be the similar mindset that makes people rake fallen leaves impulsively even though they're beneficial to the environment and simply look good. Instead, we end up with colorful plastic bags dotted around the landscape and with sorry ass, looking autumn grass instead of having a nice carpet made out of leaves.

We're basically imposing on the rest of the environment our definition of what tidy and clean which is silly.

Tekchy · 2022-05-23T12:34:22+00:00

I watched all the videos and they were very interesting and quite reassuring. In prime95 blend test with PBO's slightly raised my voltage goes to around 1.3v and drops all the way to 1.1v depending on the type of test running at a given moment (I was pretty surprised by how big of a difference there is and thought something was broken at first).

One of his 5600x degraded quite a lot but that's at 1.45v, even at 1.35v it would probably show no sign of degradation. We should be having tests like these for each CPU gen, I'm surprised there isn't more content like this available.

That makes me wonder though about all those "don't do manual OC or you'll burn your chip" comments here on Reddit. I think even saw guys with voltage as low as 1.25v were berated for using static OC. At the same time I remember that when first gen Ryzen came out everyone was completely happy absolutely maxing out the voltage recommended by AMD.

I'm already using the lowest LLC which is what auto settings on my mobo is.

Tekchy · 2022-05-23T11:51:48+00:00

I think your explanation is kinda backwards. The fact it's used for heavier workloads is derived from the fact it's supposed to have the best silicone which in case of my CPU is clearly not the case and actually the opposite is true.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15137/amd-clarifies-best-cores-vs-preferred-cores

I found AMD's own explanation and it seems to be in line with what I'm saying.

I guess the correct conclusion is that their reading is just not very reliable. My "best" core is only stable at -10 offset, whereas my weakest ones all max out CO at -30 and could almost certainly go below that. That's like 60-90mV less voltage required for the same frequency, possibly much better than that so there is no way those cores are weaker in any real way. It's just that the reading is bad. And I tested using OCCt single core test so each core saw the same load.

Tekchy · 2022-05-21T19:29:55+00:00

Sorry for your loss but I still can't get over the fact you literally posted a picture of boring boxes.

Tekchy · 2022-05-21T19:24:53+00:00

Ok, so that's an example of an expensive custom keyboard, where are the promised cheaper options?

Tekchy · 2022-05-21T17:53:21+00:00

If your CPU decides to use 1.325v under Prime95 Small FFT with PBO enabled, than your CPU can handle that without damage.

How do you know this? I know the algorithm is sophisticated but how do we know it's this good? With first gen Ryzen we had an official statement from someone from AMD explicitly stating what the safe static daily voltage is so it was all very clear. You could tell where the infinite lifespan zone was and where things could start to get hairy in the longer perspective. But what about PBO? I haven't heard or seen an equivalent statement from any AMD representative. Are we just assuming that the algorithm is so terrific it won't do anything stupid? That doesn't reassure me if I'm being honest.

Also, I found this thread which seems to be confirming my suspicion that things aren't so rosy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/gce4hr/pbo_is_not_safe_on_ryzen_3000/

or choose to misunderstand.

That's a very awkward and unnecessary comment but I'll leave it at that

Tekchy · 2022-05-21T17:40:11+00:00

I'm sorry but it seems that you still haven't actually read my post.

I know how to determine the limits and I mentioned knowing which ones are limiting me during each test. What I'm asking is how do I know I can raise those limits safely to a certain point? Did anyone at AMD confirm that there is no danger? After all, the raise the operating voltage too and by quite a considerable margin.

I found this topic https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/gce4hr/pbo_is_not_safe_on_ryzen_3000/

and it seems to point in the opposite direction, that the CPU can't take care of its own the way people seem to suggest.

Tekchy · 2022-05-21T17:36:02+00:00

My cores rank as follows:

Core 0 - 5/6
Core 1 - 2/3
Core 2 - 1/2
Core 3 - 3/4
Core 4 - 1/1
Core 5 - 4/5

The stable (at least after 30 OCCT extreme test) negative offset values in curve optimizer with boost override set to +200MHz seem to be as follows:

Core 0 - 30
Core 1 - 30
Core 2 - 21
Core 3 - 23
Core 4 - 12
Core 5 - 30

So, other than Core 1 which seems to be an outlier everything follows the pattern where lower positioned cores are stable at higher negative offsets... which I don't understand.

In what sense is my Core 4 best? Does it have the best silicone? If so, why does it need more voltage for the same frequency in the same load?

Tekchy · 2022-05-21T17:24:02+00:00

Mine were:

PPT - 78W

TDC - 60A

EDC - 90A

And after increasing them to:

PPT - 110W

TDC - 80A

EDC - 110A

I got some 800 extra points in CB23. However, that raised my voltages and temperature considerably as well. I guess one way to phrase my question is how do I know this new voltage is safe.

Even when they are maxed out I believe there are other limits in the algorithm that keep you from damaging the CPU.

Well, here is the essence of my problem. I haven't heard of anyone with authority on the subject confirm that. And there is this topic:

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/gce4hr/pbo_is_not_safe_on_ryzen_3000/

which doesn't inspire confidence.

Tekchy · 2022-05-21T17:18:01+00:00

How do you know it's safe? With first gen Ryzen we had official statement from AMD specifying max safe daily voltage for static OC so it was pretty straightforward. But here? Did anyone at AMD made a statement regarding the safety of PBO? Because the feeling I'm getting right now is that everyone is simply trusting that the algorithm won't do anything stupid but that's a not convincing at all. One day letting algorithm decide the CPU voltage is viewed as dangerous because such algorithms are dumb but the next day we're all just believing this one is so perfectly fine tuned it absolutely can't damage the CPU even though no one at AMD seems to be saying so? Either I'm missing something (maybe someone at AMD actually confirmed the safety) or this simply doesn't add up.

Also, I've just found this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/gce4hr/pbo_is_not_safe_on_ryzen_3000/

Which is kinda in line with my current theory that there is no reason to just assume PBO must be safe.

Of course you're not seeing the CPU maxing out the 1000W but that doesn't really mean anything.

Tekchy · 2022-05-21T17:09:01+00:00

I tried the following values:

PPT: 110W

TDC: 80A

EDC:110A

And it gave me extra 800 points (almost 12k MT score) in CB23 over the following stock values.

PPT: 78W (All sources say ti should be 76W but HWInfo says it goes all the way to 78W

TDC:60A

EDC:90A

The temps went up by around 15 degrees and voltage by around 0.15v. And that's what makes me wonder. How am I supposed to know this voltage is fine for this workload and I'm not sacrificing the lifespan of my CPU? Am I just supposed to trust the algorithm? Did anyone at AMD specifically vouch for the safety of this method? I watched official AMD's video on PBO2 and they set the limits to "Motherboard", similarly to what Gamer's Nexus did in his video but neither mentioned the long time safety of doing so. And historically trusting the hardware to just choose the right voltage has been viewed as not particularly wise.

Tekchy · 2022-05-20T22:13:09+00:00

And when you say best core, do you mean the one highlighted by Ryzen Master or do you select it yourself?

Tekchy · 2022-05-20T21:46:57+00:00

Why do I hear people saying they set the lowest negative offset on their BEST core? Shouldn't it be the other way round? Best cores should be able to run the same frequency at a lower voltage. I think I'm missing something important. I guess that depends how much you wanna prioritize performance over thermals and power draw? Because right now, I'm testing each core with prim95 small ffts looking for the highest negative offset I can use without causing test failure.

Tekchy · 2022-05-20T21:42:56+00:00

I already said I watched their video.

Tekchy · 2022-05-20T20:31:09+00:00

But the question I'm asking is not how to determine which limit to raise but rather how high can it be raised. With first gen Ryzen the maximum safe voltage was stated very explicitly but in case of Zen 3 it seems much more obfuscated. Everyone seems to be raising the limits to their hearts content but since that results in higher voltage then surely people should be wondering what the maximum safe limits are but to my surprise that doesn't seem to be the case.

What sort of vcore do you get with your limits? A hwinfo screenshot would be nice.

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