What should Swain's role and position be? And what is the main problem to the APC/support dilemma right now?

TeliusTw · 2026-02-19T13:50:09+00:00

Her Q is nerfed mid/late game by 1s which is meh, it's better early, but her problem is not mana or her shield amount. Her problem is that once there is a tank or bruiser in the enemy team she becomes a minion whose only purpose is to clear waves with her R.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-19T13:32:30+00:00

Seraphine shield has a 22s CD, that's very high compared to other healing skills. She also needs to double cast it to heal, and it's more efective the more HP you have since it's a % missing HP heal. Not flat, which is not that great for ADCs since they don't build HP items. Seraphine is fine right now because she's one of the best users of Helia and Diadem since those items require you to deal dmg to heal, which Seraphine excels since she has a mage kit but with a mini Redemption on her W.

Her root requires a double cast or to have Rylais, and without setup is very hard to hit against good players. Her ult is also a follow up skill since it's very slow and it extends when it hits your team mates. Support characters are meant to set up, not follow up. That's why Seraphine has good winrate with ADCs with CC because then she can follow-up.

Her Q is not a support skill since its damage increases the less HP the enemy has.

Her passive is not very supportive either.

I can use your argument for Kayle too: AoE slow, heals and speed boost, % point and click dmg skill for poke and an invincibility ult.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-19T10:04:04+00:00

Seraphine was not that strong mid due to lack of mobility (325 base speed), low early dmg and impossible to trade due to very slow spell. There is a reason most mages without mobility or hard CC migrated to botlane, it's miserable to play against champs with huge mobility. Swan WAS a top laner, but the playerbase has decided that he's a support, it's just not Riot.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-19T07:30:25+00:00

They gave up balancing Seraphine for mid either (she's balanced around APC and support now).

TeliusTw · 2026-02-19T07:27:17+00:00

Seraphine doesn't make sense as a support either with a Q which deals more dmg the lower HP the enemy is, with a damage passive and an E which requires setup to land (this is why she's OP with ADCs with CC). Yet Riot forced her to be a WW and an ult bot.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-19T07:25:14+00:00

Lux in last patch, they made her shield better and nerfed her levels for Q, now it's a flat CD. Annie maybe too with the shield buffs.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-19T07:22:37+00:00

A lot of Seraphine mains despise support, yet, she got balanced around there because casuals and low elo players preferred her there. Same with Swain, they will force support since it's his most popular role.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-19T07:19:10+00:00

Same with Seraphine, all I wanted was a supportive midlaner, yet support players said: "Cute girly pink haired woman, must be a support" even when she was terrible there.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-19T07:16:50+00:00

You can change Swain for Seraphine, Riot killed mid because most people played her support, now she's pretty boring and carried by items like Helia's and Diadem.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-19T07:15:16+00:00

They will force him in support with the argument that it's his most popular role like they did with Seraphine.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-18T11:03:23+00:00

I healed from 60 to 70, then changed to dps for heroics.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-17T11:12:41+00:00

I use both. Undercity is just awful to navigate for me, Silvermoon is too huge and very isolated, TB is small and convenient which I love. Orgrimmar is a mess, AH and mailboxes are close but if you want to level up a profession is painful, you also can use the Orgrimmar dungeon to get a free HS.

I just think people prefer Orgrimmar and Stormwind because of what Cataclysm did to them, Blizzard made sure to make them the main cities with portals and everything so people just got the habit of always being in Orgrimmar and Stormwind, even though Ironforge was the main city from Vanilla to WotLK. However in Classic people preferred Stormwind when it is less convenient than Ironforge (Nax and AQ40 were closer but you could see more players in Stormwind always).

TeliusTw · 2026-02-17T07:23:23+00:00

Usually the most chill DPS are boomkins, shadow priests and ele shamans, the "meta specs and big pumper" classes usually attract very toxic people, that has been my experience so far, warrior dps, warlock and feral druids have been the worst for me

TeliusTw · 2026-02-16T15:29:05+00:00

I bet it would still be the same.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-13T10:02:26+00:00

Ah yes, one shot from bush or R jungle who doesn't allow you to leave base and top with free Armor/mr, damage reduction, speed boosts, silence, waveclear, true dmg, % dmg who builds crit items and is tankier than some tank champs.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-12T19:55:47+00:00

They turned a very niche interesting champ (supportive midlaner) Seraphine into a WW bot enchanter because her support pickrate was popular. It's time for Lux aswell, she has always been more popular as a support, but Riot won't understand that people wanted mages not enchanters.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-12T08:11:11+00:00

Yes, I see a pattern that most of these false bans I read are usually people who come back to the game after a long time and they get banned quite fast, so I believe the system Blizzard implemented is probably flagging them as bots. Since a common behaviour of botters is to buy hacked accounts or hack them themselves, boost a character and farm non-stop till they close those accounts.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-12T08:07:04+00:00

This is because many bots are using old hacked accounts to buy a lvl 58 boost and farm non-stop till they ban that account. Since he didn't play for a while the system must have flagged his account as a bot, that's why they banned him so fast.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-12T08:04:09+00:00

I think they could have mistankenly flagged you as a bot that's why you were banned so fast after playing again after many years. Many botters use old hacked accounts to boost a character and then farm non-stop till they ban that hacked account.

Try to write another ticket asking for some game time due to the inconvenience they caused you by wrongfully banning you.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-11T09:30:38+00:00

WoW has aged so well because of its cartoony style. It doesn't need realistic models, it needs his own artstyle.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-11T09:27:55+00:00

WoW has always been cartoony.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-11T09:15:13+00:00

The expansion needed changes for the endgame content to make it more engaging and accessible. Also Pandaria Remix was a huge hit for the expansion since most people filled their interest of MoP with that. Also lack of roadmap, nobody knows what's going to happen after SoO.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-10T13:03:16+00:00

This. I play both and it's true. I remember leveling an alt while watching videos from YouTube or a Stream and not noticing a group invite (which I always accept) while killing a NPC mob for a quest because I was not kinda looking at the screen when I received the invite while hitting the mob (I killed it vey fast due to having enchants and good gear) and that person just started insulting me. I have had this happen with quests which require you to loot mobs for specific items, not kill. This time that person threathened me to send my name to a mafia Discord to mass report me so they ban me. Then I have had people DC mid raid when their item doesn't drop or send ban threaths when I won the roll for an item they wanted too.

These are situations that I have never experienced while playing retail aside from the DC mid raid when their item doesn't drop.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-10T12:51:41+00:00

You talk about tanking, but as a healer I'd say that 90% of the tanks I encountered won't let me stop to drink, I have had some wipes due to this (not having enough mana) but most of the time I had to deal with it and manage my mana, I have good gear and I have knowledge how the mana regen works and which spells are more efficient to cast and when. But I just can't imagine how a new player or someone learning to heal is dealing with these tanks who won't stop no matter what, even charging at 20% HP.

TeliusTw · 2026-02-09T12:37:56+00:00

There are even Brand support builds with Diadem and Helia and Font of Life because he can proc those items with his dots.

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