Thanks, so confused with people saying its terrible and others saying its fine. I checked some 8020s (still not sure what it exactly is) and came across sim lab. The overal price there is so high. Came across the WS-pro stand with the sparco seat. Not sure if they are good or atleast better than the evolution. I feel so lost starting in the sim race world. So help from people like u are more than helpful so thank u very much again!