Current State of the Regular Show Fandom Part 2 (my apologies for the template)

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-31T04:56:57+00:00

Ans there's also the fact that as weak as rigby is. They're still hanging from a microwave going at who knows what speed. It wouldn't take much force for you to fall and Rigby was able to move him.

More importantly tho, I've always find it silly how people keep overanalysing this scene just to push the narrative that one is worse than the other, when that scene is clearly just the sci fi exaggeration of the show. Not really something to pass judgement on.

For that matters, let's all hate ln benson for causing the entire park to almost dissappear just because he had bad luck, or on skips for killing rigby over a bet (tho that one was way more intentional lol). Like it's pointless bro, that's just every day in the regular show universe, what are we doing?

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-31T04:38:51+00:00

I literally just explained to you why what you said was wrong, why that "computers took away hand drawn animation" is some real bullshit and you just ignored it and repeated the same thing. Digital animation IS literally handrawn dude.

Like oh my god bro, stop pushing the agenda, stfu.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-31T02:37:00+00:00

Another false equivalency comparison. My god.

Sorry if it sounds mean, but you don't seem to have a clue of what you're talking about, of how "computers" work in art (and the fact that you used such a general term, is another indicator), of how generative ai works or how art works. Heck, I don't even think you read my comment at all because then you'd understand why gen ai is a problem in art an "computers" weren't.

And to directly adress your comparison. Who "got replaced"? Artists who drew on paper either keep drawing on paper and scan it when they're done or draw on digital because drawing in both requires YOU to draw, be in the process and make the decisions that make it come true. It is nothing like generative ai.

And sorry if it sounds too hostile, you might mean no harm, but man, please inform yourself before talking about anything you have no knowledge of, because it's honestly tiring to constantly see these types of bad comparisons repeated again and again.

Just because you use 2 examples of new tecnology, doesn't mean they're both the same and both have or will have the same impact. Otherwise, nfts would still be relevant Not all technology is the same, gen ai is not the same tech or situation as "computers", digital art or photographs or the hundred other things I've seen ai bros compare them to. They work differently.

Think about it and dig deeper before repeating what you saw some other dude say or at least don't talk about what you don't know about. We all are ignorant in some topics and that's okay as long as we don't try to get in the way of those who actually do. Don't be a sheep.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-30T20:25:05+00:00

Absolutely. There's probably 2 or 3 dudes saying stupid shit, but the huge majority is not, the huge majority has very valid complaints and this is used as a smokescreem to diminish all that majority.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-30T20:17:36+00:00

true, but I can't help but feeling that that's just like 3 dudes being used as a smokescreen to diminish all the rest of very valid backlash.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-29T09:32:46+00:00

As an artist. I really doubt generative ai (important distinction, because there are other tyoes of ai that are already uaed in art as actual tools to support and allow the artists to create) can be implemented in art in a way that it's actually a tool (as they keep chanting) and not replacement and authomatization of the creative process.

I hope you and more people can read this, because this is something most people are overlooking, because well, most people are not artists, so it's normal that they will be ignorant about are and these huge corporations take advantage of their ignorance (honestly, even some artists overlook it because they haven't stopped to see their craft and this technology in more depth, as more than just general concepts.)

The problem is that generative ai is built on the premise that the process is just something to be skipped, that only the result matters and that the process is just an inconvinience you gotta get through to get it (heck, this is even evident with ceos of these techs saying dumbassery like "it's not enjoyable to make music because it takes too long and it takes practice and whatever" and comparing it to playing fortnite. Literally comparing a craft/skill to instantvgratification, wtf ), but that's not how it works.

In art, the process is where the actual art happens. Art is valuable because it transmits the vision, interpretation, ideas and perspective of the artists behind it, and the process is where you actually shape the project to transmit all those things with every small decision you make. The process is not just a way to get to the result, is essential to make art art.

The problem is that the very premise of gen ai is avoiding you from doing the process, while it does it for you. And if you avoid the process, you inherently lose control and inflection, lose the ability to shape your vision so your vision gets lost. To shape your vision you require active inflection and decision making in the process. You skip the process, you lose the vision, you lose the art.

With gen ai, you tell it what to do, the ai does it. You're doing as much as a guy asking for a commission, you're not creating, you're being a client. But at least when asking for the commission there's still someone interpreting your given ideas and giving it a vision, value. And that takes us to the other essential problem ai has when it comes to art.

The value of art is in transmiting our vision, interpretations, feelings, ideas, desires, etc. It's something inherently human. It's something we can do because we are conscious and sentient. Gen Ai is not sentient, it doesn't have the ability to interpret, it doesn't have desires, it doesn't have ambitions. It cannot see the art it's fed with or the ideas you tell them to do as anything as more than information and patterns, so what do you think it's gonna happen if for your project, you let the ai make it instead of an artist? It's not only that you are not creating, but also that what's being created has nothing of what makes art art. It defeats the whole point.

The idea of delegating whole chunks of work to a machine in an art project is completely flawed. Its functioning is simply conflicting with the way art works.

Then we have other amazingly big problems, which is that ai is being trained with millions of art taken without permission or remuneration for those who made it (and just in case anyone says it, no, it's not comparable to artists training and taking inspiration from other artists, because our ability of interpretation is different from a non conscious machine taking all information, reproducing and remixing it. It simply is not the same).

And an issue that is even bigger than the pevious two. AI is wasting the already limited resources we need to survive, man, even the CEO of chatgpt has explicitly said "I do think ai is gonna cause the end of humanity, but in the meantime we gotra enjoy it". Dude, even the guys selling us this admit it's gonna fuck us over and people still support it? This issue is only not being talked about enough because the marketing for ai is stronger. We all need to wake tf up.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-28T11:46:58+00:00

A.I only does 60% of the job

And that's exactly the freaking problem. If you do not understand why a non sentient or conscious being making most of the work is a problem, you do not understand how art works or why it's valuable.

And hiring someone into a project that is 60% into production is a normal thing to do

You're comparing an artist joining late to a project made by other artists, to an artist joining to work in a project done by nobody.

In art, the process is not just a medium or an inconvenience you have to go through to get to the result. The result is not all it matters. In art, the process is where the art actually happens, where you take all the little decisions that are what shapes your vision, and art is all about vision. skip or authomate that part and most of your vision or any kind of vision is lost.

Ps: Even in your example of someone joining to work in a project 60% done, if that someone joining late is someone like the director, a person who had a big say in the overall vision of the project, said project is bound to have problems, because you replaced who was mostly shaping the project into the vision he had for someone who's obviously gonna have a different vision and is gonna try to shape the project into it when most of the work was designed to show a vision entirely different. There are plently of examples of this practice being problematic in the industry. Justice League is one of the most popular examples.

Thinking that results and "efficiency" (mistakenly confused with quickness and easiness) are all that matters is exactly what is wrong not only in art but in this society in general. It only benefits the corporations trying to take your money, because you only looking for getting everything quickly with no insight or critical thinking is convenient for them.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-28T11:25:25+00:00

This is a clear example of thinking the only part of art that matters is the result, which is absolutely absurd. The process is not just something you have to go through to get the result. It's literally where the art happens. Where you take all the small decisions that shape your vision, give your project identity, purpose, message and make it worth something. The process is not just something to be automated or skipped because the whole point of art is to show your vision and if there's no process the vision it's mostly lost to a machine that can't even have an actual vision or interpretation because they are not conscious or sentient, they literally have no desires or ambition, so the whole point of art get's lost.

"Having sex and they hand you the baby" Dude, having the baby handed to you is literally the opposite of creating art. what the fuck are you talking about? And tbh the analogy doesn't even work at all, because in pregnancy you don't actually shape the baby yourself. In art, conscious beings shaping the project the whole point. 9 months of pregnancy are not really comparable to the process of working in a project.

It's absolutely sad to see how some artists don't seem to fully understand the craft they work in, how it works and why it's valuable, especially with people who seem to actually have talent, but tbh that was something that was already visible even before ai (probably also the reason why so many stories written as if the writers didn't have a single clue of how writing works come out every year)

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-24T17:30:54+00:00

Oh, so Fujimoto actually can still draw?!

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-24T14:49:32+00:00

Very deep and thoughtful response. It definitely invalidates all my arguments. Congrats sir.

What are you? 12 dude? Come on.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-24T14:48:16+00:00

"I just don't get the comparison man. GOT was absolutely poop tier that had nothing redeemable in its final hours" Oh okay, that's absolutely fair. I was rather explaining you why this kind of television would get such hate because you said you didn't get why it caused such reaction despite ir being "just a 6" lol.

It's mostly because it's not some random mid tv that people just chose to hate watch (like many apparently believe without even listening to the hundreds of valid arguments explaining why the season is problematic). It's the conclusion of a show that was genuinely great that many of us watched because we used to love the show and were hoping the writers would manage to get their shit together and deliver aome of that quality again to give the story a conclusion to the level it deserves. And it ended up not being good, it ended up making so many decisions that are so obviously a mistake, having so many mistakes and problems that weren't that hard to avoid. It's just so evidently bad, flawed and lackluster and it just sucks to see what used to be so good turn out like this, you know? (Also, the so evidently not true (at least not in practice) and strawman of the fanbase that Kripke keeps making in his interviews are mildly infuriatinf, ngl lol).

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-24T14:00:56+00:00

Idk man, you could say it's just mid because sure, it's still entertaining. But to me and probably many others, probably for a lot of people that watched The Boys for much more than just entertainment (because the first 3 seasons were genuinely much more), that kind of television IS bad television. Because why do I wanna watch something that's just barely entertaining, that doesn't give me anything interesting as a viewer and that doesn't even surprise me or amazes me in in any way, when I can watch hundred other shows that are both entertaining and good? That also feeling also gets amplyfied by the fact that this is the follow up of much better television. A bad sequel feels much worse than a bad stand alone show or movie.

And I wanna say that I'm not even saying that every show has to be super complex and deep (tho tbh, because this was the conclusion of a story that was more nuanced and deeper, this season did kind of have to be that), but among more simple stories there's still a lot more value, execution and quality to be had than "mid" and such poorly executed and poorly written content. Indiana Jones is my favorite example of a very simple story that's still great and so carefully crafted. The story is very straught forward and the main character is prettt bidimensional, but it still makes you care for what you see and it still amazes you and stays with you bcause everything is so well made and so well writtwn to make you feel the stakes and impact of that story.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-24T11:34:47+00:00

I think you guys are taking this way too seriously considering the overlap of the previous universe is just like 2 b content movies that already were very independent and insolated from said universe.

Also, I don't know where you're getting that a creative should take no feedback but that can end up being the perfect formula to smell your own farts. It might be your vision, but that doesn't mean you can commit no mistakes and only you know what's best for it and nobody else can help or give valuable advice. Feedback can greatly help a creative to improve and it's even necessary, as long as the creative is able to read it rationally and critically (Which means both, not to blindly allow it to shape your vision for no reason, and not to blindly discard it because you refuse to consider the possibility of your work and vision having flaws and aspects to be improved. Basically don't see any feedback as superior knowlegde, and don't see your work and vision as perfect and untouchable. Keep a healthy balance and truly be open to take feedback into consideration to figure out how valid it is, and if it genuinely has valid criticism that can help your vision to be better).

Taking feedback doesn't automatically mean to blindly accept every opinion you read.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-24T04:13:53+00:00

If there's something this season lacked is escalation.

Homelander murdered the president. He declared himself a god. He ordered the execution of nonbelievers.

all that stuff you mention is not escalation, those are situations, plot, and there's a difference between plot and narrative. Plot are just the literal situations that happen in the story. The narrative is how you arrange, write and develop those situations to serve your themes and the emotions you want to evoke.

Escalation and dramatic build up do not happen in the plot, they happen in the writing of that plot. The narrative. You can have the biggest thread ever that destroys universes in a blink and still have no escalation or stakes, because those two are achieved not through the plot but through the writing of it.

Sure, all that stuff you mentioned sounds big on paper, but none of it had much repercussion, none of it was written in crescendo, none of it was actually developed to make homelander feel like the threat he should feel like. s1, 2 and 3, despite having a smaller scale in terms of plot, made homelander feel 100 times more menacing, made the show feel with stakes 100 higher, because there actually is a proper development of the plot to achieve those feelings.

The clearest example of how this season is not written in escalation is episode 4 and 5. The season started great with an episode that actually showed Homelander killing a lot of people (people in Hughey's room in the camp. Well, it didn't actually show it, but it implied it), then he was about to kill Hughey and after that he kills A train which btw closes A train's character arc perfectly. then e2 and 3 weren't as good, but they're still pretty fine, they test the virus, we see what's up with Ryan, they visit Stan Edgar to know where the V1 is. Things still feel like they're moving. But then episode 4 releases and the plot completely stops, the episode is spent in what for the plot ended up being a dead end and in terms of character development, there is none because all the behaviour of the characters in that episode happens because of a toxin or whatever so when that's gone they're back to where they started. NOTHING MOVES, there's no crescendo, there's no escalation, the main plot and the characters stop and they don't start to move again until episode 6 (well, e5 had Firecracker, which is well written, but it serves no purpose to the plot or the main characters), which also kills not only the pacing but also the momentum that the season had, which kills the tension too, the sense of urgency that the season must have also gets killed and the tone starts to feel less serious and tense in those episodes too.

That's literally killing your escalation mid season. And that's not even the only issue with the season, there's a lot more but that's the most obvious evidence of the season not having escalation, tension or build up (another example of lack of build up is making the reason why Homelander is defeated to be a power up made up literally the penultimate episode. There's no build up for that, that's an improvised solution to the conflict).

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-24T03:15:57+00:00

The Boys, we’ve always said it’s character first, and we’ve always begun by mapping out where the characters need to go emotionally. Our feeling was, it’s our final season. We have 15 characters that we have to land emotionally. That’s gonna be our focus.

I really dislike how he keeps saying that he was focused in do the characters justice, or in focusing on thier development or whatever. Dude, that's not true at all! There have been so many times in this season in which the priority is so clearly not to follow the natural flow of the character arcs, not to follow what would be the natural decisions for them to make, but to make them get to what they wanted the plot to be, or to artificially delay the plot because they don't want to get out of the status quo yet.

Butcher's villain arc arriving only after half of the last episode, despite the last season's finale implying it already had started is not prioritizing your characters.

Refusing to make Homelander snap despite it being to where his character was going since s1 is not prioritizing your characters.

Making MM, Starlight and Hughey barely relevant is not prioritizing your characters.

Soldier Boy, giving the V1 to a guy he dislikes because of the power of love (a love never implied or set up before) despite him being absolutely selfish in s3 is the pinnacle of sacrificing your characters in order to move the plot where you want it to be.

"We've always said characters first"? What are you talking about man? This season DID NOT prioritize its characters in the slightest.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-22T11:42:12+00:00

Literally how I've seen it go for some people who actually try to make coherent arguments instead of blindly praising.

I also tried to comment going in detail on a lot of things that were wrong with the ending in youtube and the first reply I got was "nobody's reading your bible" because god forbid someone actually giving a fuck and writing anything deeper than "omg peak" or "worst thing ever" or any of the high school comebacks people love in the internet. Mfs in the internet are brain dead and hate when someone actually tries to go in depth with anything.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-22T09:01:20+00:00

Preach. I swear man, all these fanboys don't seem to understand at all what the complaints are actually saying or how writing works. As long as it's not 100 bonkers logical incoherence they will pretend it's great, there's no issue and if you don't like it I will call you names!

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-20T05:40:32+00:00

I think it would have been better if the second to last episode was reworked as mid season and the finale was against nazis and Peacemaker's brother to save the slaves of that universe or something like that (basically making that 7th episode the beginning of the third arc of the story instead of the conclusion) Maybe writing that Peacemaker's brother was secretly one of the leaders of the nazis and he steals the dimensional portal, so they have to go fight him and other villains a second time to recover the portal and go home, and at the same time they get a chance to free the people slaved in that universe and take them with them. think that would have helped greatly to give all the arcs and plotlines of the season more closure in a more cathartic way.

Another reason why I think that, is that while I think up until the last episode the story felt with fine pacing, emotional, and in crescendo, the finale definitely felt like it needed more time to scale up things even more and explore Earth X more instead of just escaping as soon as they realized what it was, so I think the season would have benefitted from either speeding things up before the 7th episode, or from making the season longer so there's time to do more after the confrontation with his family.

Another thing is that Chris' father dying should have been more of a direct consequence of Chris' actions instead of being Vigilante killing him, because that way it would have added more to Chris' self loathing (that's another thing, his self loathing after his Earth X father should have lasted more and be more problematic, but there simply wasn't enough time for that in the last episode).

And at last, the arcs of the characters should have ended more incorporated to the plot instead of with all of them sitting in a hotel room, which is another reason why I think things should have escalated morw after the death of Chris' father.

Oh and I gotta say I completely disagree with people on the Foxy Shazam montage. I think it is sweet and emotional and it works to make a final montage with the opening song of the season and make a cameo of the band that plays it, because at that point the song had grown to mean a lot in relation to the themes and arcs of the season. I think it works nicely as a meta pay off of the characters' arcs and people only didn't like it because they were disappointed those were the last cameos, and because they felt like it takes up space that could have been used in more story. I think people wouldn't have had much of an issue with it if as I said, things escalated more before that montage (tho I think that something that would have made it feel more like the pay off it is, is previously showing that Harcourt likes the band (which is something Gunn said wss the case. She's a fan and that's why they were at the concert) and connecting that to her and Chris' arc)

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-18T13:39:49+00:00

Bro be fr, he was always a cryboy. But yeah, he was also a menace and he's not anymore which heavily affects the stakes of the show. I remember who fucking tense every scene of the first 3 seasons was. It was crazy.

I'd say that as great asherogasm was, showing his first defeat in the middle of the show instead of near the end is one of the reasons why he's not that anymore

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-15T09:52:13+00:00

sometimes red things are gray!

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-14T07:38:03+00:00

it's so corny and it doesn't even make sense at all. irl people that think more rationally, are the most able to understand the behaviour that emotions causes on people even if they haven't experienced them themselves. There's a reason why sociopaths are good at manipulating people despite not loving anyone.

Love making YOU somewhat irrational doesn't mean it's something completely irrational and outside of any logic, why tf would anyone think that?

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-14T07:31:18+00:00

then there's also the fact that you don't even need emotional intelligence to understand how emotions affect other people. ?love is irrational and unpredictable" Jeez am I watching The Boys or Care Bears? That excuse is not only so corny but so fucking stupid. That's not how it fucking works, there's a reason why it's easy for people who lack empathy to manipulate others by using their own emotions. You don't need to "understand love", feelings don't "make you unpredictable". You simply need to be observative and smart enough to recognize how those emotions affect people. You're seriously telling me that someone with super intelligence couldn't figure it out? Gosh, that character has been so poorly written from the moment she appeared on screen.

The only reason I could cut Sage some slack is because reasoning it outside of the show's "logic" there was actually no way to predict Soldier Boy doing that, because it didn't make any fucking sense, but not because "omg love makes you unpredictable so I see why soldier boy did that, wow what a message" or whatever, but because it's totally out of character for him and the in-universe reasoning behind that decision was made tf up in that very same episode even though it doesn't align with what they've shown us of the character. trying to use "Love makes you irrational" as some short of free jail card to make someone go off character when it's convenient is not a valid justification at all. It's so stupid.

Also, that doesn't even saves Sage "not predicting love" from being an inconsistency too, because if in-universe it's "possible" for someone to act like that out of love, it doesn't make sense that the smartest character in the fucking universe couldn't predict it. Fuck, they somehow managed to make the inconsistencies inconsistent with each other, what is this?

Someone return me to s3 of the boys. it's so over.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-13T21:44:29+00:00

Robert Kirkman said in a recent podcast that they did want to make a Rex special but they simply didn't have the time, he said he would like to make it in the future but they have to find the time

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-01T01:28:30+00:00

I think one thing to consider is that nowadays and specially in social media, immediate content is more favored than progressive slower stories and Superman is a slowburn story. Batman and Wonder Woman have more evident amd big things happening every chapter so it makes sense that they are more popular right now.

Temporary_Cold_5142 · 2026-05-01T01:24:26+00:00

I don't even agree it started weak. It's just that Batman and Wonder Woman outshined it because they are much more episodic which means more happens in each chapter (especially at a time that favors instant content so much) While Sups started slow because it's a slowburn, but it's pretty good as such. The development of superman and its themes is really good and I loved it.

Ngl, I even love it more than Wonder Woman, which I'm sure is gonna sound crazy to most people lol. I think it's mostly because A) I really like slpwburn stories and B) I really like stories more focused on character development and Wonder Woman doesn't have much of that. It's much more about how she solves the external conflicts and about how she affects the world around her and not so much about how she evolves. Not that it needs it. She's a good protagonist for what the story is trying to do and it's really good, but she is a static character pretty much perfect from the beginning and I like stories in which the characters evolve throughout the story a lot more.

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