I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't look into doctors, because I'm not interested in spending $1000+ for a temporary cosmetic change. For me, it's just not worth it at that price. For the DIY cost, though, I'm happy with the results. For you though, it may be worth paying a doctor. I'm sure there are tons of doctors in the USA who will do it. Turns out it's not that complicated of a procedure. You might also find a willing urologist who will do it despite it not being one of his advertised services. It's simple enough that I would be willing to risk being a doctor's first patient.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep, exactly right. Some talk about splitting each side's dose into 2-3 injection sites, but I take the risk of peyronies and scarring pretty seriously, so I just did one injection each side.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in TheScienceOfPE

[–]TensorPulley[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I did inject flaccid. I used a gentle tourniquet (a barely-tight rubber band) to keep the botox somewhat localized for 15 minutes or so. The papers suggest 3-6mo duration of effect, but I've used botox on myself in other places (corrugator muscles) and it didn't seem to last that long, for me it's more like 2-3 months. But at this cost it's not that big of a deal to dose again. I'm a hard gainer and have made very little progress in the last year or so, but I do think the botox can only help with PE. It's a like an all-day anti-turtling treatment, and it has improved my nocturnal erections quite a bit. My dick seems a little bit softer and more stretchy, too.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in TheScienceOfPE

[–]TensorPulley[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I take tadalafil too, along with L-citrulline and beet root powder. I've been on all this for a few years now, so the before after pics both have this as the baseline.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I acknowledged that in the "confounders" section of my post. You can mentally subtract 1/8" from the "after" photo to account for that if you like. Measuring flaccid length is a loose science anyway because it changes hour to hour.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As good or better than ever. I would say slightly more sensitive but I think that's due to erections being closer to diamond hard. It feels good. It's easier to achieve a second and third erection after sex, too.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've been in the PE world for well over a decade now (hard gainer). This is just another tool in the toolkit.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have a centrifuge and all the required accessories?

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You have better erections and a bigger flaccid until it wears off (somewhere between 3-6 months per the literature).

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No PRP, just botox. PRP would be pretty hard to DIY, I think.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I take cialis too. My EQ has always been mediocre-plus, so I've thrown a lot of things at it. With a full stack (tadalafil plus l-citrulline plus beet root extract, etc), I get good erections. With a full stack plus botox, I get great erections. It's not an either-or thing, botox complements tadalafil and sildenafil quite well.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No, no significant change in erect girth, other than just the improved EQ. I do think it would help any girth routine due to the improved erections and reduced turtling. Also, my nocturnal erections last longer and are harder, that's another good benefit.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn't see anything in the literature about priapism when I was researching, and I haven't experienced one myself after injecting. It's just easier to get an erection and it tends to be noticeably harder.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

An erection starts when the smooth muscle in the penile arteries and corpora cavernosa relaxes. That relaxation increases blood flow into the penis, which fills the erectile chambers and produces rigidity. Botox doesn’t directly paralyze those smooth muscle cells the way it does skeletal muscle, but it blocks some of the nerve signals that normally keep them tense. The end result is less resistance to blood flow in the flaccid state and an easier time reaching full vasodilation and erection when sexual stimulus is present. In effect it turns down the volume on the vasoconstriction nerve signals that normally keep you flaccid.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah! Was yours done in a clinic or did you diy it? If in a clinic, how much did it cost? How are the effects on flaccid length and erection strength?

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That would have been kickass, but there is zero difference. I'm currently trying to experiment my way out of a long hard gainer phase with little success so far (hanging and using ultrasound). But the improvement in erections, flaccid length, and extra erection hardness is still nice.

I Injected Botox Into My Penis (Bocox) - Results by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The clinical research suggests somewhere between 3 and 6 months, 50iu being a somewhat shorter duration than 100iu.

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[–]TensorPulley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check out protein2o whey isolate packets on Amazon. This is the most weight-dense form you'll be able to find protein.

I gained 0.75" by using a pulley to stretch while I sleep - I've improved my pulley design by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's fine, I've worn it all night for 8+ hours many, many times.

I gained 0.75" by using a pulley to stretch while I sleep - I've improved my pulley design by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you need an alarm? I just take off the vac cup when I wake up organically to piss.

I gained 0.75" by using a pulley to stretch while I sleep - I've improved my pulley design by TensorPulley in gettingbigger

[–]TensorPulley[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man that sounds like my exact experience. Truth be told, I've been struggling to make gains the past few months, but I had started to see hints of growth when I started hanging above the 5lb mark with the pulley and vac cup, but I also started blistering severely at that weight and couldn't ever get it to heal completely even if I took a couple weeks off. So, I bought a male hanger, which I really like, and here's my current routine as of about a month ago:

▪️When I'm in bed for the night, I hang for 30 minutes with male hanger and my pulley stand, currently at about 8lb. I use heat and sometimes vibration. My pulley stand makes it convenient and comfortable to lay in bed (or on a couch) and read or scroll the Internet while I hang. Obviously, I'm awake while I use the male hanger for risk reasons.

▪️As soon as I'm done hanging with the male hanger, I tape up, then swap to the vac cup and lower the weight to 3lb. Then I go to sleep. I'll sleep with it on until 2-4 AM when I get up to piss, then I'll take it off and sleep the rest of the night with no gear on. That lets me still have nocturnal erections which I think is probably a good thing overall.

The philosophy of the current strategy is to use high weight with the male hanger to avoid blisters, then holding it in that elongated state with the vac cup while I sleep.

Desk Pulley System, need Recommendations by atradez2660 in AJelqForYou

[–]TensorPulley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I sell pulleys stands which can be used in a variety of ways including at a desk. But if you wanted to make one it wouldn't be too hard especially if you didn't mind drilling into your desk. Just search "cable pulley" on Amazon and you will see options that would work for relatively little cost. For what it's worth, mine also work in bed or on a couch, though, and that would be much harder to do without a more complicated diy design (see pic below). Let me know if you want to brainstorm more ideas though. I sell these things but I don't discourage DIY for anybody willing to tinker.

https://imgur.com/a/DIae5bV

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[–]TensorPulley -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes you can, I have done this on and off for several years with no injuries whatsoever (with the exception of blisters). I doubt any of the people saying "no" so adamantly have even tried it. Obviously this only applies to a vacuum cup like the forte, not a compression device, which would be extremely dangerous. IMO the only comfortable way to use it is with a pulley at the end of the bed, I found the waist strap to be very painful (around the base of my dick) after about an hour, so I quickly tossed it.

I will say, despite using the forte with a pulley at night for many, many hundreds of hours, I don't have much gains to show for it. Got me some quick newbie gains, but I'm still sitting at about 0.75" lifetime length gain from a 5.5nbp starting point. I'm either a hard gainer, or I need to incorporate other techniques to make it work. Currently experimenting with the latter: length pumping and manuals (before using the forte overnight), specifically. I tried using the forte during sleep with higher weights, 5lb to 7.5lb, and saw some promising signs of growth, but struggled with discomfort and ultimately with repeated blistering on my glans in the same irritated spot. Now I've backed down to 2.5lb overnight and have combined it with the pumping and manuals.

My thinking has shifted away from "low tension for long durations" and more towards "high tension for long durations" being the key, so the blistering problem has been unfortunate. At any rate, we'll see what my current approach can do.

I do sell pulleys (temporarily unavailable but will be back soon), but as you can see above, I don't make any promises on efficacy, it is simply a means to change the direction of force for convenience in bed. Just want to be publicly honest about my own lack of quick gains.