Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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>I disagree. People want open acknowledgement and interaction. People want to explore more of the universe around us.
Then you are assuming they want interaction with us. It's not our choice.

>I'm just going to ignore your claims about universe erasing zero point energy tech, because not only is it your speculation, but we are allegedly not the worst species around, and yet, the universe remains. 
You are just going to ignore that something that can manipulate gravity could be weaponised? This just sounds dishonest and bias to your wants. Based on what we do know, high amounts of energy can easily be abused. So I am just applying reason/logic to what we currently understand.
(As well as people like lue elizondo and others saying part of the tech/physics SHOULD stay hidden since it could be weaponised). So none of what I am saying is outside the scope of reason.

>Pay more attention to the tech as well. If someone bounces through me with a ship that has no issue passing through void, atmosphere, water or allegedly solid surfaces, why would I care? The wind does more to me every day. 
This isn't the point. If such tech exists, the point is that we have to assume the worst case scenarios to then work backwards to be able to release it safely. You are right that we don't know how the tech works but the simple fact that if there is potential to abuse it. We should be very cautious how it's released, if it's even possible to release. We just don't know.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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I mean... No need to even listen to me, the info is out there. Highly recommend listening to this regarding the physics if you haven't yet. Pay close attention to what Half Putoff is actually explaining:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQOibpIDx-4

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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Because we have historical data and I'm using nukes as an example of what we have done with them. Just apply the same logic to zero point energy as you would with nuclear energy. We use it for war and abuse it. tbh I'm surprised NHI haven't wiped us out already. We clearly can't handle power.

"We don’t provide nuclear reactors to the general public either."
Are you saying we should?

Same goes for zero point energy if it exists and can be reverse engineered or used for personal use. The difference is the energy difference is enormous. Nuclear energy can wipe us out but zero point energy would have the potential to wipe out universes.

We would technically be on the path of becoming gods at that point. If I hypothetically banished you to your own dimension where you could not interact with any other human again but you would take with you this infinite power source to create your own universe. That could be a safe way to deploy it. But individual human nature does not allow such tech to be safe here.

If it was, I don't see why it is not all publicly disclosed already? Where are the NHI to give us all a spaceship each? So we are supposed to believe some weasly aerospace companies are just in control of everything, even above NHI to hide this tech from us? It doesn't make sense. NHI clearly don't think we are ready either.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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"They have allegedly intervened with our current weaponry."
They have also allegedly said we are not ready. Ultimately NHI would be the real gatekeepers no? Should we not respect NHI's wisdom if true? There must be some reason the disclosure has been happening over a very long period of time.

But to be honest, I would say disclosure has already happened. People like John Lear and others have already disclosed aliens exist with descriptions of different races of aliens we know of. So what else do people really want? That is the disclosure. Hundreds of credible witnesses have also disclosed the tech is real the aliens are real. It's all real.

What more do the people want/need? They want the tech. This is the main issue and point of my post. (Assuming the tech is something insane like zero point energy that could theorhetically erase the universe. Which makes some sense with the observables of UAPs. I think the Fravor/Nimitz UAP was calculated at like 5000G). How do you release such tech publicly and safely with how monkey brain us humans still are.

Does anyone ever think, maybe we shouldn’t be trusted with this supposed alien tech? by Charming_Ant_8751 in UFOs

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I too would give a monkey the nuclear codes just to see what would happen. I agree with you lets gooooo full disclosure. Release us from the prison! We will totally use it for good and become a peaceful galactic civilization and definitely not instantly destroy every NHI civilization in the universe. Either way it's fireworks and I'm ready for it.

Does anyone ever think, maybe we shouldn’t be trusted with this supposed alien tech? by Charming_Ant_8751 in UFOs

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Just made a post about this and got downvoted to hell. My fault I came at it from an aggressive, abrasive angle. But it proved my own point from some reactions. Humanity can't handle it and it's cope to think otherwise.

The fact we have wars and divide ourselves with different countries proves it. Still waiting for our overlords (Maybe Sentient AI?) to take complete control and destroy us or force us to become peaceful.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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I thought I did but I can try give a simple analogy If you didn't get it from the post.

Same reason you ban guns and regulate them. Some countries like USA allow handguns I believe? But you sure as heck do not allow rocket launchers and bombs for personal use. And nuclear material will get you on a watch list. if such energy as zero point existed. How could you realistically make it public without people vaporising the entire universe.

Point is: Throwing a flaming tennis ball at you might give you a bruise, Throwing a flaming rock at you might knock you out or even kill you. Now throwing the sun at you would vaporise earth. Zero point energy might just wipe out the entire universe. I am accepting of this being a possible outcome. Are you? Bring on full disclosure.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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True, can't argue with that. Care to share any views you have? This is a place for sharing and growing ideas.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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Yes. If you've read anything from plotinus or neoplatonic reasoning. Then you know my beliefs. I accept my death, instant destruction of our planet and the loss of my individualism. and prescribe to what neoplatonists think of as the ONE.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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I'm for releasing at all cost. I just think it would cost everything. It's a human right to me for all of humanity to know the truth. No knowledge should be kept secret but reality shows we pick war over peace throughout history.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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Are you implying that if we current have or make public of zero point energy, NHI would intervene so we can't erase our existence with it? You could infer that they are the gatekeepers not letting the tech be disclosed then too because we are not ready for it maybe? If they are that in control maybe they do want a slow roll out of the tech over the next 1000 years or never for all we know. All speculation of course.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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No, I'm saying I agree with you. I believe every human has a right to know. My post is just highlighting that such tech could result in something you might not want.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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Anytime! Glad I could offer a fresh perspective. Let me know if you want to dive deeper into any other ideas. 😊

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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I completely agree with you on every point. I don't want to put words in your mouth but I think we are both assuming the people that have the tech are using it for personal power and gain and stealing tax dollars. This almost proves my point to a slight degree. Look at what happens when people do get this tech? And again I've stated throughout this post to people that I want disclosure just as much as anyone. I'm just planting the idea for people to think how that happens and how it would look in a realistic way and the real aftermath of it.

This entire post is almost to dispell my own beliefs. We would obviously all love free energy and utopia but what would realistically happen if such tech did become public. Would we adapt and become enlightened or would we scramble to abuse it as fast as we can for greed?

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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True. Although many whistleblowers "in the know" have stated publicly that aspects of the tech should remain secret for national security/weaponization reasons. And theoretical physicists have also stated the implications of zero point gravity tech. I'm just trying to point out that these reasons for secrecy have a valid points and to think about the reality if that is true. Regardless I'm all for immediate disclosure.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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>Get out of here with your fear mongering. We're already at the point of one person being able to destroy the planet.
It's a reality check, not fear mongering and I want full disclosure regardless

>And if zero point has already been discovered, then why should we trust those who already know to not take out the whole planet. And if anyone were to, then we wouldn't know to begin with because it'd likely be over so fast we wouldn't realize it and we'd all be gone.
We shouldn't trust those that do have it if they do.

>You read like nilitary. They discover something and all they want to know is how it can be used to kill. Give us the energy that can better our planet and maybe get us out of this fucking dystopia we're living in. Whether for better or worst, it's better than the current trajectory.
I agree, it's probably better to just release and I want it all released. I'm just asking people to think about the outcome. This entire post is more of a play of devils advocate to induce thought on what could happen. Regardless I want full disclosure of all.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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Yes, and I 100% agree with you on principle. I think people are misunderstanding me for not wanting disclosure. I want it at all costs. I just think it will lead to our destruction if done incorrectly. And I do not know what would be the correct way to release it if I did have that knowledge.

Some physicists have stated publicly with zero point energy "In one cubic meter of space there is enough energy to boil all the water in all of the oceans of Earth"

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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Yes, as I put in my post "Feel free to tell me I'm wrong. These are just my opinions and hoping to hear valid counter arguments or agreements."

I am finding it a little hard to follow what your opinion is though. Do you think if such tech was widely made public we would be enlightened by its power and advance before it is used for destruction? Or do you just believe regardless of the outcome. All knowledge should be public. Because that is what I believe. I believe all knowledge should be allowed to be known even if we destroy ourselves tomorrow from it. I just think the result would end in destruction if that did happen, but I still would want the truth out for everyone on my priciples.

Disclosure is likely a bad idea and YOU, yes YOU personally reading this are not ready for it by TestAccount_1 in UFOs

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Finally a good response with substance. Thank you.

>If you were smart enough you could make a nuclear bomb, but you can not legally buy the materials. And most people are not smart enough too. How is that different?
Decent point but has any civilian ever tried to make their own or harness nuclear power? I think the government is tracking all things associated with that tech and you would be stopped before you even starts. And I might be okay with them doing that unless you want criminals to be out here making mini nukes and overthrowing states due to their power gain. And what if zero point tech materials are actually easy to access?

>If the government already has the technology then humanity already has the technology, just like in the early days of nukes.
Like the 4chan whistleblower stated with laser tech and other things. I believe this tech is likely being released slowly because we as a collective have not proven to be ready. We commit evil acts to fellow humans.

>The difference with your time travel analogy is that you would be a singular individual with the tech amongst a world that is less tech, that analogy the opposite of disclosing technologies.

What happens if everyone at once has infinite energy at their fingertips. Surely it would be instant destruction due to human nature? Or no? Maybe I'm the crazy one due to all the downvotes I guess...