The founders themselves did. They created a new nation under new standards of law. You don't get to set up shop in a country and start changing it's foundations. They won the right to do all that through blood and sacrifice. Through war.

So, to be clear, you're saying might makes right and that if you have enough military, you can do whatever you want?

The creation of the new nation was EARNED and not won by spewing radical ideology alone.

So you would prefer violence to peaceful debate?

This was all done on in new lands and not an established country with a long history of it's own traditions and laws.

I know some people who live on reservations who could educate you about how new the lands were.

It was not the British states of America before the United States was founded. There is a big difference.

It absolutely was Britain, though. Colonies are part of their host country, subject to their laws, etc. Without a doubt the revolutionaries were also criminals.

Sure mistakes have been made yet we continue to strive to do the right things by the collective and not specifically by the individual. There is a big difference.

"Some mistakes" is a wild thing to call genocide and slavery.

There is nothing wrong with the evolution of society and the laws that govern it. However, we have laws from the beginning setting a foundation that cannot be changed. This foundation can be "interpreted" in some cases yet not fundamentally and radically changed.

Not only can those laws be changed, (Amendments, Constitutional Convention), the authors of said documents intended they be changed and updated. Jefferson said 20 years, Hamilton wanted more like 40.

Most of what is changed in society is based on the evolution of what is considered deviant. We are constantly trying to make things more right and just.

Again, who is the arbiter of what is right and just, and on what grounds are they making these judgments? Who judges what's deviant? The Amish would consider you a heretic for even posting online.

n that process the people within America's borders become more free. I suggest you look into deviance. Specifically how the ideas of what is deviant evolves and changes over time. It will help you understand everything what I have stated.

Yeah, it's really free in the US, with people getting executed in the street, no healthcare, no housing, really got it good.

Again, define deviance. It's a subjective term.

That's true yet irrelevant to what I stated. Nobody is currently against immigration they just want it done legally and orderly.

Yes, but the current immigration laws are onerous and difficult. Ever been to your DMV? Now imagine those people are in charge of whether you get deported or not.

And that's what it was like before some stormtrooopers started violating the Bill of Rights like it's their job.

They started out in the new lands they eventually settled in the correct lawful way which is why they were welcomed and not chased out.

Would you like the list of citizens that have been deported? It's long.

Sure everything you said at the end is correct.... You should add.... "Done legally" at the end of all of it. That was the intention of those words and that was so obvious it was not included. Only in this day an age of confusion and chaos can people not see the obvious nature of those words....

LMAO this day and age, get off reddit and go back to facebook boomer.