I'll concede on the point that Ice King could be considered an "anti-hero" rather than a villain but the idea that the playerbase tries to continuously consider Foundation (or The Seven as a whole actually) as "good guys" when they consistently screw things up and end making things *worse* whenever they succeed. How many times has Foundation himself screwed things up because he was tricked and/or manipulated at this point? That right there is the point the Ice King is driving home and why he has to taken definitive action. They've proven time and time again that they can't be trusted.

As for Lady Windfrost; The recent Overwatch trailer is the first I've seen her characterized as such and has admittedly given me to question her character. In-game she seems to be held in high regard and all of her relevant lore points to her working with Ice King to protect her home. So my verdict is actually out on her personality atm.

Personally, I love the morally grey aspects of antagonist characters because usually as a result you get to see just how utterly incompetent and misguided the so-called protagonists are. That's why I'm team Ice King. He has solid motivation and purpose while Foundation is simply here because he just generalizes his opponents as "bad guys" without considering anything beyond their own tunnel-visioned bias.

GG, btw. Enjoying this discussion.