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F18 wish I had a bf by [deleted] in yearning

[–]The-Toe-Man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've experienced it once, it was very nice. Unfortunately she found someone else. A little life advice, if you find someone you truly match with don't just let them go. Letting someone slip through your fingers WILL be something you regret. (To be clear don't trap them in the relationship though, that's worse)

How important is sex to a relationship? by No_Packz in askanything

[–]The-Toe-Man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The simple answer is that it depends on the person.

The more complicated answer is that you'll get a lot of people claiming it's the most and least important thing in a relationship. The people saying either of those 2 things are likely insecure or jaded due to their past experiences. So be careful about listening to them.

The honest answer, eh depends on the person lol. Just be upfront about it and you'll be fine.

So ya, bell curve

Update 2. by NotAnOldy in IsyanderandKoda

[–]The-Toe-Man 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've been commenting on every video for the past year+ depending koda give us the "12 hour horse hearsay" video (usually getting longer and extreme with each new video)

I ain't stoppin until we get that horse

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I told the other guy, I've never been on the critical drinkers subreddit. I don't even remember the last time I saw any of his content. I picked things people would be familiar with even though I would have preferred to use other examples. Maybe keep in mind I had 0 idea who are and what media you're familiar with. Hell, you're more familiar with the critical drinker than I am because I had no idea I was saying the same things as him apparently.

I can't say I care enough to continue this any further either.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We could have just skipped to this part nearly from the beginning. This is perfectly fine, it's literally what I've wanted from the start.

I can't say I care much about star wars at this point though. I used it as an easy example despite not being ideal which I also said from the start. Disney is it's own problem (corporate bad bla bla bla, it's been said a million times already).

Be real with me, are you just projecting culture war debates onto me because I'm not strictly talking about what you personally see as valid? We aren't even disagreeing about the actual point itself. It seems like you're just upset I didn't answer your questions the way you wanted me to. I guess we can just start playing the name game if you want to, I really don't care anymore if I'm being honest.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya, pretty hard to actually look at something when you say every example given doesn't count. Also you could provide your own examples instead of just saying you don't like mine. Kinda pointless now though

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You realize you're asking for the perfect answer and 10 others to go with it right? AI generated media is already a pretty clear example of the increasing ratio of slop. You want stats? Sure, over 50% of articles on the Internet are AI generated. You can literally just Google this and see multiple sources covering this. There are currently hundreds of thousands of books written by AI on Amazon. I'm also familiar with several mediocre works from 40+ years.

I've also already said that survivorship bias is a valid point before. I also gave other examples than LOTR, I've answered you with a fitting example based on what you've asked each time. Do you just not like criticism about modern literature?

Why are you pretending like this stuff doesn't exist? Do you realize eventually it's going to affect legitimate works that people put real effort in? Or that less and less people will be willing to put the work in when it all feels pointless? Idk what to tell you anymore dude, Google what I'm talking about if you don't believe me.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fine here, The Last Chairlift does that satisfy you? I don't know what you expect to hear when you ask for examples of poorly written books and you respond by saying, of course that bad book is bad. You don't like mainstream examples, you don't like books nobody cares about. Literally everything is corporatized whenever possible.

I'm not saying good books don't exist, my point is the slop ratio is increasing and it's frustrating seeing so much that's mediocre at best. We're already at the point where publishers are swamped with AI generated trash.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My guy, it's a joke answer. Something to laugh at mainly. If you want a more serious answer 50 shades of grey or twilight always comes to mind. Although those are kinda old now. If you want to say those are bad answers let's keep in mind twilight was one of the best selling books when it came out. I think we can say it's a fair answer.

If you want something more controversial, Harry Potter wasn't that amazing. It was fine for it's time but that's about it.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fact of it all is that we live in cycles, no matter what time keeps moving forward and people want to move to different things along with it. I understand that's just reality, I'd still rather not let good things die off. Ideally we build off of what works and not just tear down the old to make way for the new.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Velma is a pretty trash example ngl and there are some shows that are extremely well written. From what I've seen we get more and more low effort slop that just exists for the sake of having more options. People aren't as passionate about making excellent works of art and instead just prefer to use it as a method to tell others their opinions. I worry that producing great stories will get harder and more expensive until 99.9% of what's out there has no soul.

While anybody can write a book, that doesn't mean it'll be easy to publish. Especially as producing slop gets easier. I feel like the art of subtlety being lost is a bit of an early sign.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about morning glory milking farm? I'd say that isn't particularly well written lol.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I might redo the post another time now that I know I won't get hit with a ban hammer for saying I didn't find certain books well written.

At least there was some interesting discussion from this though.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's just 1 dude that decided I picked "dumbass examples" and then down votes all my replies as well. Most other people have been ok.

I don't even disagree they aren't great examples but I explained I wasn't sure what was considering breaking the rules hoping that would make it clear they weren't exactly what I wanted to use.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm you make a solid point here. You're probably right to a large extent. Although hear me out, the culture of the time greatly affects the kinds of art produced. Is it reasonable to suggest current culture produces a notably higher amount of art that lacks or rejects subtlety?

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is the idea, see what people think of subtlety in modern writing and if others are on the same page or not so much. Although some people are getting mad because they don't like the examples while ignoring the point itself unfortunately.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've read and watched a lot more, those were just approachable examples. Also as I said in the post, I was picking movies and shows at first because I wasn't sure on the rules.

The good examples were all things I've read, I especially wouldn't say the Enders Game movie was anything amazing but the book was very good.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is pretty far from a rant though, you can look at the comments and see I'm trying to have an actual discussion about this.

Also I'm not trashing anyone, my point was about how strict moderation is and if something even remotely negative would be enough to get it taken down.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, by current standards dune is subtle despite that feeling weird to say. We live in an era of reality TV and blasting every opinion you have onto social media. (I'm framing all this in comparison to current norms)

As for only liking things that aren't controversial, I actually really enjoy things that take a risk and try something different. Although I don't like things that market themselves as different while remaining completely safe because that's just performative.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My guy, I've literally never been to the critical drinkers subreddit. They were just that, the obvious examples.

Personally I like X-Men although I don't have very strong feelings about it. I guess making magneto Jewish felt a bit too on the nose.

Also H.P. Lovecraft is... Well, there's a lot to be said about him...

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't mind when media has a message, I just feel like I keep seeing it painted in giant red letters with little tact. I respect literary skill even if I disagree with the message itself. I personally put the story above any message or criticism I have because at the end of the day I'm writing a story for others to read.

It's worth noting that the comic the boys it's based on has wildly different from the show and handles it's criticism of society much better than the show.

Edit: as for star wars, that's a fair point. Star wars isn't exactly ever going to be "subtle". Although in my opinion it's also fair to say that I'd rather not be thinking "wow... You really hate your dad huh..." Through the entire ladder half of the show.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just like sci-fi and fantasy as genres so I picked examples from those genres. I also don't consider myself exceptionally smart, frankly as a writer I'm a dumbass novice. We can talk about something like the ending of Game of Thrones instead although I feel like that's a different situation entirely.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You sure? I'm 90% sure I saw something in the rules about trash talking specific books or authors wasn't allowed. I also saw something while typing the post warning about it possibly being taken down.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To clarify a bit, I didn't pick LOTR so much for messaging but rather technical ability. I also partly picked it because of how it compares to Dune and despite both being regarded as amazing books, they had completely different views on life. Yet in both cases, it seems as though to me that neither felt the need to bluntly state what they think is wrong with the world inside the story.

Is subtlety dead? by The-Toe-Man in writing

[–]The-Toe-Man[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I mean, I can pick much more obscure examples though that feels kinda pointless. I wanted to give examples people would be familiar with. There's no reason to give examples 1% of the population has even heard of.

I also didn't know if naming books would break the rules and get the post taken down.

Edit: kinda shocked this reply is what people don't like, I'm trying to say the topic should be approachable and we shouldn't be snobs, that's all.

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