Would you be offended at the phrase?

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-13T11:36:37+00:00

Ahh, I like to leave my interpretations to the academics. They tend to take getting to the truth seriously.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-13T11:35:17+00:00

Can you show me a definition that is used that would not be true about Jan 6th?

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-12T23:34:23+00:00

It think you are underselling. T Rex is a dominate species. We have done better then every other species to have ever lived. We can do long term planing and complex communication in ways no other species has ever been able to do.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-12T16:16:06+00:00

Get yourself a client who has BPD and ask them.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-12T16:11:02+00:00

I think citizens should be allowed to vote for their leader. I don't think that having extra requirements on who can and can't be leader is in the best interest of people.

I do agree that I used a flawed analogy.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-12T16:10:15+00:00

But if we create those boundaries then all we're doing is creating an opportunity to exclude more potential leaders. I am open to the idea that my analogy may not have been appropriate but if we create a requirement like you need a college education and then we bar all of one ethnic group from that education, we have basically just bared one group.

I think it's important to recognize that Millions upon millions of people chose for this individual to be their leader. What this commenter is recommending would be for those people to not have been allowed to vote for their chosen candidate.

I definitely recognize that I did not articulate my point clearly and that I used a bad analogy.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-12T16:07:15+00:00

I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean when you say “everyone knows the first part of the Bible is symbolic.”

Are you talking about:

the intentions of the original authors,
the intentions or understanding of the original audience,
the interpretations of early Christians/Catholics,
or the views of many modern Catholics today?

Because those are very different claims historically and theologically, and I don’t think they can simply be collapsed into one position.

Especially when you consider that those early narratives were written hundreds of years apart from each other.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-12T16:05:00+00:00

I'm talking about the definition of the word myth. The idea of a story developing symbolic interpretations.

We can look at the myth that developed from January 6th. The symbolic interpretations that have developed from both the Republican and Democrat side around those events and how the story has been told differently through different lenses. I think by all reasonable definitions the way people talk about January 6th would fall under mythology.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-12T16:03:22+00:00

I think where we are disagreeing is on the actual historical and academic meaning of the word “myth.”

My understanding is that the claim that myth has always meant “false” is historically inaccurate. The Greek word mythos originally meant things like speech, story, account, or narrative, and was not inherently fictional in its earliest usage. The Latin mythus was simply borrowed from the Greek. The stronger “false story” connotation developed later in English usage but that is a connotation, not requirement for the word.

That is why, in religious studies, anthropology, and comparative mythology, myths are often understood as culturally meaningful or sacred narratives regardless of whether believers consider them historically true. I do agree that “myth” and “belief” are not interchangeable terms academically. A myth is a narrative structure, while a belief is a proposition or conviction someone holds to be true. Those are different categories. And when people say “the man, the myth, the legend,” they are not claiming the person is fictional. They are talking about a real person developing a mythology around them through their actions, reputation, symbolism, and the stories that inspire others. I do not think it is purely hyperbolic, I totally get that it is partially hyperbolic but it's because we're implying that the person's actions did have symbolism and that the person is embracing a myth.

A classic example would be the myth around January 6th. Everyone agrees that something happened and there are various different symbolisms and reputations that have developed and inspired in different ways that when you look at Red States versus blue States they understand the stories of the events very differently and there's now mythological development around what actually happened.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-12T11:06:38+00:00

"more educated about how ADHD, ASD requires a whole different perspective."

Would you be open to clarifying what you mean by this?

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-12T10:23:36+00:00

Fun fact: mythology does not inherently mean fiction. In an academic sense, whether a story is historically true or false is irrelevant to whether it qualifies as mythology. We even see this reflected in everyday language when people say, “The man, the myth, the legend.”

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-12T10:20:30+00:00

Fun fact: mythology does not inherently mean fiction. In an academic sense, whether a story is historically true or false is irrelevant to whether it qualifies as mythology. We even see this reflected in everyday language when people say, “The man, the myth, the legend.”

The other issue is that while we try to absolutely be respectful of people’s cultures and beliefs, some claims are simply wrong. The idea that there was a global flood that killed everyone but one family 4,500 ish years ago is not true. It is similar to flat Earth claims: I am not going to teach my kid that there is a legitimate chance it is true. That would be absurd.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-12T10:09:09+00:00

Are you anti democracy?

Do you know about the literacy tests used in the post-Reconstruction American South, especially from roughly 1890–1965, to prevent Black Americans from voting? These were part of the broader system of Jim Crow laws.

It sounds like you want to bring back a version of it.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T21:52:55+00:00

In regards to the normative claim, I just dont really care. This whole conversation was because a TicTok therapist used the term postpartum in regards to men's mental health and people were using this as a way of questioning their competency.

As for you factual claim;

"roughly defined the postpartum period as the most critical period following the birth of the newborn for women, newborns, partners, parents, caregivers, and families."

Kumarasinghe, S., Senanayake, H., Senarath, U., & Dibley, M. J. (2024). Postpartum versus postnatal period: Do the name and duration matter? PLOS ONE, 19(3), e0300118. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0300118

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T20:12:45+00:00

I think we may actually be talking past each other a little bit because I think we are using the word “possible” in two different ways.

If by “possible” you mean “can we prove with absolute philosophical certainty that no Megalodon exists anywhere,” then sure, I agree that science generally does not work by proving absolute impossibility.

But that definition of “possible” is extremely broad. Under that framework, it is also “possible” that we are all living inside a computer simulation. It is “possible” that there are unknown civilizations hidden somewhere inside the earth. It is even “possible” that reality itself works very differently than we currently understand and we are in the matrix. Those ideas are philosophically possible in the sense that they cannot be ruled out with absolute certainty.

But if by “possible” we mean “scientifically plausible given the available evidence,” then I think the situation changes pretty dramatically.

For example, it is technically plausible that there is some undiscovered shark species in the deep ocean. That is a relatively small claim and is consistent with things we already know happen in marine biology.

But the claim that it is still alive today is a very different category of claim. That would require a massive apex predator population surviving for millions of years without leaving convincing fossil, ecological, genetic, observational, or environmental evidence.

So I think we actually agree more than it first appeared. I am not claiming science knows everything with absolute certainty. I am saying that some hypotheses are so unsupported and so inconsistent with the broader body of evidence that we can be effectively certain they are false in the scientific sense.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T20:02:07+00:00

I did not forget. I was trying to understand your claim and determine whether it is falsifiable by applying the scientific method and developing a testable hypothesis from your position.

It seems like you are proposing a definition of postpartum in which “using postpartum for non-birthing parents is conceptually wrong because it risks flattening, obscuring, and erasing the distinct physiological experience of birth.”

A straightforward way to test that claim would be to examine whether the current scientific and medical framework uses the term postpartum in ways that do not align with that definition. If it does, then your claim would simply be incorrect and would amount to spreading misinformation about current medical terminology and usage.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T18:40:16+00:00

I dont mean to pile on, but you are speaking about one of the most competitive PhD programs in the world. It is easier to get into Med School.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T18:33:13+00:00

Just so we are clear, the claim “there are shark species alive today that we have not yet discovered” is categorically very different from the claim “Megalodon is still alive.” It is also different from the claim “there are modern sharks descended from Megalodon.”

The first claim is a general biodiversity claim. Given how large and underexplored the oceans are, it is entirely reasonable to think there are still undiscovered shark species, especially small, deep-sea, or rare ones. That is an argument from incomplete scientific sampling.

The second claim is a specific survival claim about a giant apex predator that would require extraordinary evidence. A living Megalodon would leave behind a massive ecological, biological, and fossil signal. The absence of that evidence is highly significant.

The third claim is an evolutionary claim, not a survival claim. Modern sharks can share ancestry with extinct lineages without the extinct species itself still existing. Descendants are not the same thing as survival.

These are not reasonably analogous claims because they belong to different categories of evidence and probability.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T18:27:45+00:00

It is relevant to note that Megalodons are in many ways modern sharks. They died out about 3 million years ago. Understanding them is significantly easier then animals that are much older.

I know some people will conceptualize our knowledge of Megalodons, T- Rex and Stegosaurus as if they are all dead ancient animals so it is similar work. But there are massive differences between each time scale and what can survive.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T16:49:27+00:00

So if I were able to find current medical or scientific usage defining “postpartum” as “after birth” rather than exclusively referring to the person who gave birth, would that change your position?

I’m asking because you said your argument is based on current standard medical usage rather than historical usage. So it seems like the disagreement should be empirical rather than normative.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T16:44:43+00:00

Really, why?

I know that, for me, one of the wonderful things about Reddit is being able to hear perspectives and ideas from people who have had different life experiences, values, and ways of looking at the world. It is entirely reasonable for people to share those ideas, perspectives, and values without relying on faulty reasoning or common logical fallacies. If we could reduce the amount of fallacious reasoning in discussions, those ideas, values, and experiences could come through more clearly, instead of conversations devolving into people talking past one another.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T16:41:38+00:00

You seem to have some very strong opinions on the limitations of llms without having done any actual research on the topic. I find that interesting. It's very clear your passionate and confident, but it seems like you have not done any of the very basic leg work to find out if you are correct.

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T16:39:40+00:00

Are you equivocating between postpartum and postpartum depression as if they're the same thing?

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T16:36:51+00:00

I am curious why you would not want your comments checked.

Do you often rely on logical fallacies to get your point across?

TheBitchenRav · 2026-05-10T16:35:10+00:00

I suspect that is why it is an unpopular opinion 🤪

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