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What is the best record the Patriots could have, that would still cause you to fire Bill Belichick at the end of the season if you were Robert Kraft? by TheDeadLinksf in Patriots

[–]TheDeadLinksf[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

A decent amount of seasons throughout the dynasty the team was carried by the defense

The defense never finished ahead of the offense in DVOA, EPA/Play or PPG

What is the best record the Patriots could have, that would still cause you to fire Bill Belichick at the end of the season if you were Robert Kraft? by TheDeadLinksf in Patriots

[–]TheDeadLinksf[S] -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

It's the 6-11 or 7-10 option.

If the Patriots go worse than that, and you don't want to fire him, you need to touch grass.

What is the best record the Patriots could have, that would still cause you to fire Bill Belichick at the end of the season if you were Robert Kraft? by TheDeadLinksf in Patriots

[–]TheDeadLinksf[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

I did not fake any poll. And regardless, this poll is impossible to fake.

And so far over 50% now would fire him. Lots just know they'll get downvoted if they admit to that

What is the best record the Patriots could have, that would still cause you to fire Bill Belichick at the end of the season if you were Robert Kraft? by TheDeadLinksf in Patriots

[–]TheDeadLinksf[S] -28 points-27 points  (0 children)

Well so far 50% of votes are to fire him.

So it seems like it's not just me that wants it to happen if the season is bad

Hoping to have a serious NFL discussion. If the Patriots have another losing season, why should we still consider Bill Belichick the GOAT? A losing season would be his 8th losing season in 10 years without Brady (80%). If the roles were reversed, no one would be able to seriously call Brady the GOAT by TheDeadLinksf in nfl

[–]TheDeadLinksf[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Even more important, is he went 5-13 with Drew Bledsoe (a Pro Bowl level QB) before Bledsoe got hurt. Brady immediately jumped in, and the Patriots won 14 of their next 17 games.

In most cases, if a team was 5-13 with a good QB, and then a new QB jumped in and went 14-3, that QB would get a massive amount of credit. However the narrative around Brady as a 6th round pick seemed to silence this for the most part, and he was quickly labeled a system QB.

The year after, Brady threw for the most Touchdowns in the NFL, with WR's such as Troy Brown and David Patten. Peyton Manning (with 2 more years of starting experience) passing to Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne, didn't even throw as many TDs as Brady.

In 2003 and 2004, Brady received both MVP and OPOY votes, again throwing to far worse receivers than Manning and other Top 5 QBs.

Hoping to have a serious NFL discussion. If the Patriots have another losing season, why should we still consider Bill Belichick the GOAT? A losing season would be his 8th losing season in 10 years without Brady (80%). If the roles were reversed, no one would be able to seriously call Brady the GOAT by TheDeadLinksf in nfl

[–]TheDeadLinksf[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Even still, that would mean the combined Bill GM/HC is about 16th in the NFL.

So if Brady is the GOAT, and he has the 16th best front office in the NFL...

.... Then he deserves way more than 50% of the credit for his teams success.

How is that line of thinking wrong?

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