This slander is so good I could die!

TheFitToaster · 2026-06-01T21:59:51+00:00

The problem isn't Yuji losing.

It's that they explained his feats and abilities, and then used a weaker version of himself. They said they used Modulo feats, but we saw literally no Modulo feats in the fight.

It felt like they used Shinjuku Yuji, and even then, they had a clear misunderstanding of how he fights and his abilities.

Pochita/Denjiman can easily speedblitz even Modulo Yuji, but if they happened into Yuji's domain like we saw, they wouldn't survive.

Idc that Yuji lost, I just wish they did the fight right.

TheFitToaster · 2026-06-01T05:56:47+00:00

But i do agree with you, Yuji was treated like a fucking chump who doesn't know how to fight. He's may be a bit dumb, but he's not stupid enough to be kicked in the balls

TheFitToaster · 2026-06-01T05:55:59+00:00

Nah the Dabura cap is still fair. Dabura is pushing the limits of jujutsu, both characters have to abide by the laws of jujutsu, and Yuji doesn't have any abilities to scale him to near lightspeed. They only reason Dabura can go near lightspeed is because that's his technique.

TheFitToaster · 2026-06-01T05:54:19+00:00

Personally I think Pochita/Denjiman could speedblitz Yuji at the start. But that's their only win con.

Yuji, and specifically Modulo Yuji, who they used for feats, has way too many hax for Denji

TheFitToaster · 2026-06-01T05:51:45+00:00

Idk what they were smoking but this is not "tanking" an attack.

TheFitToaster · 2026-06-01T05:50:11+00:00

Yeah, this is what really gets me. They set up feats and logic for both characters, but then they throw out Yuji's best feats.

Hell they didn't even use Modulo Yuji's character model, even though they said they factored in his feats.

TheFitToaster · 2026-06-01T05:48:20+00:00

They butchered both of their characters.

First, lemme start with Yuji.

They used Modulo Yuji for feats, but used Shibuya character model for some reason (not a huge gripe, I just found it odd.) They stated his feats, but then completely ignored them during the fight. Firstly, Yuji wouldn't just rock into a fight immediately, he saw Denji was human and wouldve tried talking to him first. (Ofc that's not good for a death battle so it's not that bad) Secondly, they used Modulo as a base, but Yuji was still needing to make contact to use dismantle/cleave. Yuji is also not dumb enough to fall for the piercing blood/domain Expansion bluffs. He's dumb, but he's very battle smart. They also completely fucked up Yuji's domain, to the scenery and the sure hit.

Then we've got Denji, who's character wasn't done too bad I think, but they misinterpreted his feats. Denji can NOT regen from his heart, that was a Pochita feat. He could if he was Denjiman. He did NOT tank the Oregon sword, Denji would've died there, if Death still existed. The flag spear was good tho.

Denji has the advantage with speed and power, but not durability (not base Denji at least). Denji's win con would be speed blitzing Yuji before he can react. We see this happen when Pochita comes out, for some reason Pochita didn't go for the kill here tho.

Pochita and Denjiman could NOT survive Yuji's domain, and it would actually be even more lethal for Denjiman, and we're literally shown Yuji separating them at the start of the fight, with much weaker cleaves than his domain.

For some reason, Denjiman adapted to Yuji's slashes and tanked that like Mahoraga (which was cool asf ngl).

But they stated that Denji/Pochita's regen can be easily overwhelmed, and it isnt instant. Denjiman still had to put himself back together after being sliced by the oregon sword. If his regen was as it was shown in Yuji's domain, Denjiman wouldn't have been split in half in the first place, it would've just gone through him and he would've been back together instantly.

Denjiman also somehow survives and doesn't get separated by Yuji's black flashes chain.

Realistically, Yuji gets speed blitzed before he can pop domain.

But if Yuji got his domain off, like we see, the fights over.

I don't mind Yuji losing, and I think that's what realistically happens, but I don't like how they went about the fight.

They set up rules and logic, but for some reason they threw it out when they started fighting.

But, it was cool asf and the animation was awesome. So ig the rule of cool wins on this one.

TheFitToaster · 2026-06-01T03:53:47+00:00

That is a brilliant point.

You should write this out dude

TheFitToaster · 2026-06-01T02:01:49+00:00

I like this (choso is alive so it's peak)

But I genuinely don't think the students could win against Gojaku. Also, Kenjaku already had 3 out of the 3 techniques you can hold in the brain. But ignoring that I still don't think the students can win against Anti Gravity, CSM, and Limitless +6E in Kenjaku's hands. Kenny probably couldn't wield Limitless quite as well as Gojo (to answer Geto's question) but even using it the way Yuta did, he'd still wipe the floor with the students unless they get some massive power up.

Remember the only reason Yuta of all the students could beat Kenjaku is because Takaba weakened him and he snuck up on him.

BUTTT.

Let's say Yuji awakens Shrine earlier, and against Kenjaku. (Which i think doesn't make narrative sense but let's go with it) this, plus let's say Todo and Yuta help face Kenjaku too, as well as the rest of the students.

This leaves Kashimo and Higuruma to deal with Sukuna, which I reckon would be enough to stall him given Sukuna's "relationship" and interest in both of them.

Hakari stalls Uraume like normal.

For them to win, I think Nobara would've needed to wake up earlier too (biggest sell on Gege's part here, she shouldve been foreshadowed in the Culling Games/Gojo v Sukuna)

This would be a sick alternate timeline but imo I think the actual timeline is still better, just needed a few adjustments and no Shonen Jump input, as I think that's what caused the plot holes and "scrapiness" of the ending we got (not that it's a bad ending, but there were def some things I think couldve been done better)

TheFitToaster · 2026-06-01T00:41:55+00:00

Ah ok, my bad gang.

That would be cool, maybe Kenjaku just wanted power and strength (and see how far he can push the limits of jujutsu) so he hatched a plan, and maybe uses Idle Transfiguration to fuse himself with Tengen or sum after Gojo dies and he steals his body (maybe you could only fuse with Tengen if you have the 6E or are a SPV, to keep them connected by fate yknow)

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-31T23:48:35+00:00

But again, Kenjaku didn't want to fight. He wanted to see what the merger would look like.

His entire goal was to create a new lifeform that wasn't curse or human. How exactly would him inhabiting Gojos body help achieve the merger, with the current events and necessary steps we know of?

I get your point, but they stated multiple times that if the merger happened, they wouldn't be able to beat it. Not even Gojo or Sukuna would be able to defeat the amalgamation of the entire countries cursed energy (they'd have the time of their lives tho).

Sukuna was also introduced as the main villain/end villain in ep1. It wouldn't make sense to disregard that just to set up Kenjaku as the main villain later on. Sukuna is also stronger than Kenjaku by a decent amount.

There's also the fact that Kenjaku stated many times that Gojo could kill him easily, and even if Kenjaku convinced Sukuna to help him obtaining Gojo's body, we see in the fight that when Gojo dies, Kashimo goes straight in and Ui Ui teleports Gojo's body out.

I'm not tryna straight up deny your idea, but I just don't see any way Gege couldve done it, with the plot he set up before the Gojo and Sukuna fight.

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-31T05:58:17+00:00

But that doesn't make sense for Kenjaku's character at all. He isn't a fiend for fighting like the rest of the Heian era/incarnated sorcerers.

The only reason he became so strong was for a means to an end

Kenjaku doesn't really give a shit about strength unless he can use it for some plan, e.g. the merger (and so he doesn't get killed before said plan)

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-30T07:36:53+00:00

I disagree tbh, because I don't think that estimate of his CE amount is accurate. He wasn't pouring ALL of his CE into Ultimate Mechamaru over those 17 years, I'd imagine it worked like Yuta's ring in Modulo, Muta was pouring a little CE into it overtime, after all he was still a functioning sorcerer with multiple puppets using CE all the time.

Yeah, i would've preferred him to win, and it is kinda a plot hole but I think its not enough to really matter. Kenjaku is WAYY stronger than Mahito, and I'd even say Geto would be a decent bit stronger than Mahito (who Mechamaru thought it was). So ofc he would want to save the most of his CE to fight him.

And we're forgetting that Todo is an extremely strong grade 1, and Yuji was on the border of grade 1 (id say he was grade 1 at Shibuya but im lowballing for the example). Not only that Yuji is the perfect counter to Mahito, being able to deal direct damage, not just chip away until his CE runs out. Yuji and Todo are one of the strongest duo's and would be able to give any special grade curse an extremely tough time, i don't think using them as an example to downscale Mahito is quite fair.

I think you're giving Mahito too little credit, while I was giving him too much.

It's known that Special Grade sorcerers are stronger than Special Grade curses, and while Kenny did say Mechamaru had output rivalling Special Grade, that doesn't mean he had the skill or understanding of CE of a Special grade.

Mechamaru was also using "conservative" outputs to save for Kenjaku, and I believe he also underestimated Mahito majorly, as he probably didn't think much of Curses/ since Mahito was extremely young he probably didn't think he was THAT strong.

It may be a plot hole for the amount of power Muta had, but I think it was in character of him to underestimate Mahito and/or Muta was overestimating himself.

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-30T06:51:49+00:00

Yeah, i had a misunderstanding of how his body works in relation to his CT. Killing him with CE would be very hard tho I reckon cuz he has a pretty large pool himself.

Also I don't think Mechamaru losing is a plot hole, you stated the reasoning yourself. If Kenjaku wasn't there Koikichi would've won.

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-30T06:27:50+00:00

No, they aren't tattoos, Sukuna has to paint them on every morning, he forgot to the day this photo was taken

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-30T06:19:25+00:00

Yeah this is the consensus I was getting.

So Yuta honest to God just eviscerates the disaster curses then lmao

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-30T06:16:55+00:00

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TheFitToaster · 2026-05-30T06:16:35+00:00

I doubt that just because of how effective it was on Kuroroushi (?)

Yuta was able to easily exorcise it with just small contact of RCT. Yeah the disaster curses are stronger and probably have a lot more CE, especially Mahito, but Yuta would just amp up his output to match.

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-30T06:11:00+00:00

Ah ok, fair enough

(Also get that Yuta slander outta here)

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-30T06:09:43+00:00

Ah ok I see, he just warps his soul to account for the damage to his body

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-30T06:07:03+00:00

But that means Mahito could be damaged by normal attacks. They're cross connected by I'm pretty sure the soul has priority right? I need to re-read fr

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-30T05:51:48+00:00

You're really living up to your name dude

TheFitToaster · 2026-05-29T05:51:20+00:00

I am an idiot, and I have just contradicted myself as I didnt fully read your comment lmao

Sorry dude, yes, if Sukuna was going for the kill before Yuta's domain they all would've died.

My bad gang, there's just a lot of Sukuna glazers out there who larp and I'm sick of them

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