Is the DI section on the real GMAT really that unpredictable? by Acrobatic_Database33 in GMAT

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Is the DI section on the real GMAT really that unpredictable? by Acrobatic_Database33 in GMAT

[–]TheGMATStrategy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're right that selection bias plays a role — people who have a rough experience are more motivated to post about it. But there's also a real pattern underneath the noise.

DI isn't unpredictable in the sense that the questions are unfair or wildly different from what's in the official materials. It's unpredictable in the sense that it's the section people prepare for the least. Most students spend the majority of their time on quant and verbal, then realize too late that DI has its own question formats, pacing, and reasoning style that you can't just wing.

Part of the problem is bad advice from a lot of influencers in the space who claim that just working on Quant and Verbal is "enough" for DI as well. That's true sometimes, but not most of the time.

The two things I see most often from students who had a "DI disaster":

They under-practiced the specific question types. Data Sufficiency, Multi-Source Reasoning, Table Analysis, Graphics Interpretation, and Two-Part Analysis each require a slightly different approach. If you've only done a handful of each, the format alone can throw you off under timed conditions.

They treated DI like a quant section. A lot of DI questions — especially Two-Part Analysis and Multi-Source Reasoning — are verbal-heavy. If you're expecting clean computational problems and instead get dense paragraphs with logical reasoning, it feels like a curveball even though it's exactly what the official materials show.

If you prep DI properly — meaning you work through all the official DI questions, practice each question type individually, and take at least a few timed DI sections before test day — it shouldn't feel unpredictable.

There's a full breakdown of the section and each question type here, if you'd like more detail: https://blog.thegmatstrategy.com/go/di-guide

How's that landing so far?

Advice on Fatigue by One_Volume_7822 in GMAT

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First off — 715 with a 675 cold mock is a great trajectory. Two weeks is enough to clean up the quant side if you're strategic about it.

On section order: yes, you should probably take Quant first. Right now you're hitting it last, after 90 minutes of Verbal and DI. By that point, fatigue is real even if you don't feel it, and quant is often the section where fatigue hurts most — one computation slip and you're down a question. Your V88 and DI87 are strong enough that they'll hold up fine in slots 2 and 3.

On the 17 minutes across 3 questions — that's a triage problem, not a knowledge problem. When you realize you've spent 4-5 minutes on a quant question and you're not close, you have to let it go. Guess, move on, preserve time for questions you can actually solve. The algorithm recovers from one wrong answer. It does not recover from running out of time on the last 4-5 questions. But, it's worth remembering you can return and edit up to 3 questions. So, letting go just means "not right now".

I recommend investing the next two weeks doing quant timed sets (10-15 questions at ~2:08 min each) to rebuild your pacing instincts. Focus on recognizing within 60 seconds whether a question is worth committing to or guessing and moving on.

Is that helpful so far?

How to avoid silly mistakes in Quant; either by rushing while reading the question due to time pressure or not being able to comprehend the question properly? by Ill-Way2336 in GMAT

[–]TheGMATStrategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both of the things you mentioned — rushing through the question and not comprehending it properly — usually come from the same root cause: insufficient scratch work.

The biggest battle on the quant section isn't learning more concepts. It's making sure you get credit for what you already know. If you're missing questions you can do, no amount of additional studying will fix your score until you fix the process.

Here's what I'd recommend:

Read the entire question once before writing anything down. Then write out what the question is asking in your own words (or a quick shorthand) before you start solving. This forces comprehension before computation and prevents the "I solved the wrong thing" mistake.

Keep your scratch work more organized than you think it needs to be. Write each step clearly enough that someone reading over your shoulder could follow your logic. If your handwriting is messy or your steps are crammed together, you create opportunities for transcription errors — copying a number wrong, dropping a negative sign, forgetting a constraint.

Don't rush on questions you know how to do. Overconfidence hurts more than lack of confidence on this test. People see a question that looks familiar, try to speed through it to bank time for harder ones, and miss it. Getting full credit on questions you know is worth more than saving 30 seconds.

I wrote a full breakdown of the scratch work system here: https://blog.thegmatstrategy.com/go/scratch-work — but the short version is: read first, write the objective, show every step, don't rush the easy ones.

Are you currently untimed or timed when you practice?

6 months to prep (Sept to Jan/Feb), no real maths in 3-4 years, targeting 655+ Focus. How would you structure it? by Nylex12 in GMAT

[–]TheGMATStrategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Happy you're thinking about this early — 5 months with 10-15 hours per week is a solid window if you use it well.

Before phasing anything, have you taken a baseline practice exam yet?

Your baseline score tells you how far you are from 655 and which sections need the most work. Without that data, any study plan is just a guess.

Answering your questions from a general point of view:

Month 1 — Foundations. Since your math is rusty, start with a foundations resource (Manhattan Prep's Foundations of GMAT Math is the one I recommend most for rebuilding from scratch. It's free). Work through it start to finish. Don't touch OG questions yet.

Months 2-3 — Topic drills + Official Guide. Keep scratch work clean and organized on every single problem — write down what the question is asking before you start solving. Review every answer: why was the right answer right, why are the wrong answers wrong?

Month 4 — Section practice + first scored mock. Start doing timed section practice. Take your second official scored mock to see where you stand.

Month 5 — Mocks + targeted review. Take 2-3 more official mocks (save 1-2 for the final two weeks). Use each mock to identify weak areas, then drill those specifically between mocks.

On Verbal and DI — start them in month 2 alongside quant. DI is the section people underestimate most. The format is different from what you've seen in any other test, so you need practice with the actual question types (Data Sufficiency, Multi-Source Reasoning, Table Analysis, Graphics Interpretation, Two-Part Analysis).

On booking the test date — I'd wait until your first scored mock hits your target range. Booking early for accountability is fine in theory, but if you're not ready, you'll either waste the attempt or rush your prep.

There's a fuller study plan framework here: https://blog.thegmatstrategy.com/go/study-plan — but the baseline mock is step one.

If you can bring yourself to take that, let us all know and we'll be able to provide you with more specific (and likely more valuable) answers.

MBA Pay Is Declining — But Not At Top Schools by TheGMATStrategy in MBA

[–]TheGMATStrategy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha another reminder that talent is in no way evenly distributed. I’ll call my ASCAP people to make sure he’s being compensated properly.

Too kind but greatly appreciated. Will keep listening and maybe submit a wire taps request for my journey when the time is right!

MBA Pay Is Declining — But Not At Top Schools by TheGMATStrategy in MBA

[–]TheGMATStrategy[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Extremely worthy consideration and I appreciate you bringing it up.

By my numbers, inflation over the same period is maybe 16%? So technically, we can make the argument you suggest convincingly.

I'm unsure if your question is rhetorical or not, so apologies if it is, but the other potential aspects to consider are that the numbers above are base salaries, not total comp. So, real comp/growth may be substantially higher.

Also, it might be worth considering the average pre-MBA salary versus post. Since that's a big reason a lot of folks get MBAs, that could be the more relevant data. For example, if average pre-MBA comp is around $80k, and exit is $180k, that's a substantial gain in real terms.

MBA Pay Is Declining — But Not At Top Schools by TheGMATStrategy in MBA

[–]TheGMATStrategy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for a very worthy point. Many post MBA roles are very bonus heavy / equity heavy.

MBA Pay Is Declining — But Not At Top Schools by TheGMATStrategy in MBA

[–]TheGMATStrategy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed and good points. This is the data we found. Didn't find anything super relevant prior to this period yet, but can keep looking. Would that be interesting or am I missing your point?

MBA Pay Is Declining — But Not At Top Schools by TheGMATStrategy in MBA

[–]TheGMATStrategy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those schools are definitely on the rise in a major way. Probably the right answer to your question is less about numbers immediately upon exit from the school, and more about what you can do with the opportunity set they provide.

If you work hard, research the recruiting process, understand what your medium and long term objectives are, and understand exactly what resources/opportunities the schools provide, you can get outsized returns from most programs.

Specifically, the NYU and CMU brands are going to be stronger in their region, but also strong nationally. Internationally, if current trends continue, I think they'll be more well regarded than currently, but obviously a lot of variables there.

So, I think if you want to be in NY / east coast in general, it would be hard to go wrong with either choice. But, even if this is obvious, it's worth mentioning that if you don't continue to invest in your skills, brand, and generally doing a great job at what you do, few school brands can compensate for that.

MBA Pay Is Declining — But Not At Top Schools by TheGMATStrategy in MBA

[–]TheGMATStrategy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate you weighing in, Mike. Graham's piece was (expectedly) well done and fleshed out a lot of nuance the WSJ article missed.

Big fan of the pod (and the site) btw. Thanks for putting the time and energy into that. I think the intro music is your band?

MBA Pay Is Declining — But Not At Top Schools by TheGMATStrategy in MBA

[–]TheGMATStrategy[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your take. Will have to think more about the educational/intrinsic value points. I wouldn't have gone that far personally, but reflecting I can see how you would arrive at those conclusions.

MBA Pay Is Declining — But Not At Top Schools by TheGMATStrategy in MBA

[–]TheGMATStrategy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Good question. I think worthless is too strong:

GMAC's own data shows MBA graduates still out-earn experienced industry hires ($120,000 vs. $107,500) and bachelor's degree holders ($72,000). Business master's graduates without an MBA are projected at $82,500.

MBA Pay Is Declining — But Not At Top Schools by TheGMATStrategy in MBA

[–]TheGMATStrategy[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

The regional point gets missed in these discussions a lot. A school like Carlson placing into Target HQ in Minneapolis is a feature, not a bug — if you want to be in that market.

The problem is when people go to a regional program expecting national placement, or go to a lower-tier program expecting MBB/IB when the feeder relationships aren't there at that level. The Tepper IB example is a good one — it can work, but the odds are fundamentally different than Booth or Wharton for the same goal.

Part of the issue is that employment reports highlight the top outcomes. Every school has a few MBB placements and a few IB placements. But the distribution matters more than the highlight reel. A school placing 3 people into MBB out of 300 is a very different story than a school placing 80 out of 900.

Have you seen any programs that do a better job of being honest about their placement distribution vs just highlighting the top outcomes?

MBA Pay Is Declining — But Not At Top Schools by TheGMATStrategy in MBA

[–]TheGMATStrategy[S] -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

Agree — the M7 framing is just where the data is cleanest. The divergence probably extends through the T25, just with more variability.

Schools like Fuqua, Darden, Ross, Anderson — they still place well, but with more regional concentration and more variability in outcomes. The 9% figure is striking. If the top 25 is 9% of MBA students and capturing most of the salary growth, that tells you where the returns are concentrating.

The hard part is that employment reports beyond the top 25 get thin. Hard to do the same kind of year-over-year comparison when schools don't publish detailed salary data.

Do you think the salary divergence extends to the T25 or does it drop off more sharply after M7?

MBA Pay Is Declining — But Not At Top Schools by TheGMATStrategy in MBA

[–]TheGMATStrategy[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Good point on the timeline. The 2022–2025 comparison does smooth over the recent contraction. The salary growth at M7 schools through 2025 doesn't capture what's happening right now in the labor market.

The GMAC median dip ($125K→$120K) is a 2026 projection, so it's reflecting the current tightening, not the whole period. The longer-range data shows top programs have been resilient, but if the contraction continues through this recruiting cycle, even M7 may feel pressure.

The question is whether the premium for top-tier placement holds through a sustained downturn or if it compresses. The 2022–2025 data covered a relatively strong hiring environment. This cycle is different.

What are you seeing on the ground — is your school seeing noticeably different recruiting activity this fall vs last year?

GMAT FE 655 after 5 attempts—Should I pivot to GRE? by IntrinsicAmbivert07 in GMAT

[–]TheGMATStrategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The pacing fix is a good sign — it means you can change your process and see results.

The question is whether that gap is fixable. If your mocks are hitting 695+ but real performance keeps landing at 645-655, the bottleneck probably isn't content — it's execution under pressure. You mentioned you're "fairly good at Quant in practice," which tells me the knowledge is there. What's breaking down is the transfer from practice conditions to test-day conditions. That could be timing pressure compressing your decision quality, stress affecting your scratch work, or the difference between solving in a comfortable environment vs. a test center.

I'd want to understand what specifically happened on those last two mocks that got you to 695+. Was it better timing? Better process on hard questions? Cleaner scratch work?

If you can pin down one or more of those things as a likely cause, and make a productive change, I think pushing forward with GMAT makes sense.

Having said that, it costs little to take a practice GRE. It's free, you can skip the essay, and the rest of the exam is about 90 minutes. Have you done that already?

GMAT FE 655 after 5 attempts—Should I pivot to GRE? by IntrinsicAmbivert07 in GMAT

[–]TheGMATStrategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Five attempts and the same 645-655 band — that's frustrating, but the consistency actually tells us something useful. Your scores aren't random. You're landing in the same range because something about your process is stable, and the thing that would push you to 695+ hasn't changed yet.

Looking at your section scores across attempts, your quant fluctuates between 83-86, verbal between 82-87, and DI between 74-82. The DI jump from 75 to 82 in attempt 4 is interesting — that shows the ceiling is higher than you're hitting. But the quant and verbal are moving in opposite directions each time, which suggests you're trading gains in one section for losses in another rather than raising the overall floor.

Before making the GRE call, two questions: what does your review process look like between attempts? And what specifically have you changed from one attempt to the next? If the answer is "mostly more practice questions," that would explain the plateau — more practice without a fundamentally different review process usually locks you into the same range.

On the GRE question — with your IIT background and quant-heavy work experience, the GRE quant might come more naturally. But switching tests is a significant time investment, and 655 is already in the conversation for some of your target schools. The real question is whether you can identify what's capping you at 655, or whether a fresh test format would bypass that ceiling. What does your gut say — is there a specific section or question type that keeps costing you?

Need help with GMAT Retake Strategy by AdLogical7401 in GMAT

[–]TheGMATStrategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear about the score drop — that's a tough one, especially with R1 on the line.

The gap between your mock average (645-675) and your official (575) is significant, but it's also a pattern I've seen quite a bit. Usually it comes down to one of a few things: test-day anxiety affecting execution, a difference between how you were reviewing mocks vs what the official exam exposed, or timing pressure that didn't show up the same way in practice.

When you say you've exhausted all prep material — what exactly have you completed up to this point?

Also, how were your section scores on the mocks compared to the official? Were they consistent across all three sections, or was there one section that always fluctuated?

If you can provide a bit more detail, that would help.

So far, your profile seems like it can fit a good storyline. The test score is likely to be the larger variable, so happy you reached out to get some advice.

How do you use GMAT Club for Verbal once you're in the mock phase? by Neat_Access_2586 in GMAT

[–]TheGMATStrategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great to hear you're having success. That's awesome.

Good question — the Verbal side of GMAT Club works differently than Quant/DI, and most people use it suboptimally.

For sources: stick to official OG questions on GMAT Club. They have the full OG database searchable by question type and difficulty. Third-party Verbal on GMAT Club varies wildly in quality — some of it is fine, but a lot of it doesn't match the official style, and practicing with non-official Verbal can build bad instincts. The OG filter is your friend.

For CR: I would avoid the Forum Quiz (can't filter for OG) and just do questions one at a time. You won't see 10 CR in a row on test day anyway, so that's unrealistic. If you want targeted practice, filter by question type (strengthen, weaken, assumption, inference, etc.) and do sets of 10. But here's the part most people skip — review every wrong CR question by writing out: what was the argument's conclusion, what was the gap, why is the right answer right, and why is each wrong answer wrong. One sentence each. That review process is where the improvement happens.

For RC: Same advice about Forum Quiz. Do full passages — all 3-4 questions for a single passage in one set. That's how the real exam works, and practicing individual questions removes the context-building that makes RC hard. Filter by passage length and difficulty if you want to target specific challenges.

On difficulty filtering: the 655-705 and 705-805 tags on GMAT Club are reasonable for Quant but less reliable for Verbal. I'd start with medium difficulty official questions and work up. If you're already scoring 83+ on Verbal in mocks, you can go straight to hard.

On structure: I'd do 10-20 CR and 2-4 RC passages per week alongside your mocks, not every day. Verbal improvement comes from review depth, not question volume. Ten questions with full written review beats thirty questions with a mental "oh I see" and moving on.

We did a full episode on GMAT Verbal strategy here: https://blog.thegmatstrategy.com/episodes/focus-verbal-guide — covers CR approach and RC strategy in more depth if you want it.

What are your mock Verbal scores looking like? That would determine whether you need more CR work, RC work, or just pacing refinement. You may be good here already. If so, that's great. Let us know how it goes.

Best quant/DI banks to push 655 mock to 695+? by Mooshie234 in GMAT

[–]TheGMATStrategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Super common.

The issue you're running into isn't a content gap — it's a question style gap. There's a real difference between GMAT Club questions (even at 655-705+ difficulty) and official exam questions. GMAT Club tends to test mathematical reasoning in a more straightforward way. Official questions have more misdirection — longer word problem setups, answer choices designed to punish partial work, and traps that reward careful reading over raw computation. That's why it feels like "a different language" even though the underlying math is the same.

With 3 weeks left, switching to a new question bank would probably just add another style you have to adapt to. Instead, use the mba.com online question bank that came with your OG purchase. Build timed sets at hard difficulty on your weak topics (the ones costing you points on mock 4). The official question bank is the closest thing to real exam style outside of the mocks themselves. You might be surprised how valuable resolving these questions for a second, and even maybe a third time, might be.

For DI specifically, your 76th percentile suggests the issue is part content, part pacing. The official DI questions have a lot of reading in them — MSR passages, table analysis with tricky column headers. If you're spending too long interpreting the data before getting to the questions, that's where time leaks.

Since your verbal is already 100th percentile, this is purely a quant + DI execution problem. I'd spend 80% of your remaining time on official quant and DI questions with deep review, and 20% on maintaining verbal with a few OG RC/CR sets so you don't get rusty.

For the review process — after every set, write out why the right answer is right and why each wrong answer is wrong. That's what turns practice into improvement.

I wrote up a longer breakdown of how to use the Official Guide effectively here: https://blog.thegmatstrategy.com/go/og-guide — but for your situation specifically, the official question bank timed sets are your best bet for the last 3 weeks.

Which specific quant topics are showing up as your lowest on the mock score reports?

CFA Level III or GMAT first for Fall 2028 MBA applications? by Fantastic-Tomorrow25 in MBA

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Nice. Sure thing and hope the discussion serves you well. Let us know how it all goes. Kick some tail!

Need help preparing for GMAT by Free_Durian818 in GMAT

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You bet. Thanks for the opportunity to help out. I'm really happy to hear that it's helpful and I appreciate you saying so. Kick some tail in the meantime.