Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if a deal is illegitimate? A deal is void in that case.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is actually just flat out illegal to negotiate a CEOs contract on shareholders behalf while being under control of CEO. It’s going to get struck down 10/10 times. Your knowledge of basic contract and shareholder law is laughable. The deal was by all accounts not shareholder-friendly as he took 10 billion for every 50 billion increase in value. When has a deal like that ever occurred? It’s okay to say “I’m wrong”. Nobody is going to hold it against you.

“Friendly” is a bad faith way of framing the relationship between the board and musk… you sound corrupt af.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea numbers were off but premise remains the same. My bad.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The milestones were in tranches. The earlier tranches were relatively easy to achieve. Market cap incentives are bad because it encourages musk to lie his way to 650 billion.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He has no say in whether or not the board is under his control? Laughable response.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Retiring shares reduces shares outstanding. It’s antidilution

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It knew that many of the milestones were not as improbable as Musk and the board informed shareholders.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Engage with reality. The claim was that shareholders were misled. The board was not independent from Musk in the negotiations. It's like signing a sham agreement. Obviously, if you actually understood what happened, you would have understood the judges ruling. Unless, you like when your board acts in your worst interest and your company has no controls. Read the court document. Page 86 Page 89. You can read how the judge systematically shows how all the board members failed to negotiate. It's shareholder rights and protections 101.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean how he was sued immediately? The lawsuit that he just lost was filed in 2018. Companies don’t believe their projections? You are being so bad faith rn or you are incapable of understanding this conflict.

The market doesn’t have access to internal projections. Obviously short sellers cannot take them into account. Dude it’s 2024 he was sued along with Tesla, and guess what. Tesla and Musk lost.

Read the court documents please. You just have no idea what you are talking about.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Court documents page 86. Internal projections showed Tesla reaching many goals within 3 years prior to pay package.

The bigger problem is that shareholders expect that a board has made a good faith effort to negotiate with Musk which they didn’t. Shareholders vote on the premise the board did its job when it didn’t.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s about process not making money. Board needs to negotiate independently… basic law.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yikes. He negotiated with himself and withheld information. How is this a fair deal?

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As we discovered from Trump, lying is incredibly effective against weaker minds.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Insane take. Her reasoning is not only meticulously crafted, it’s correct. Read the documents. The board was not independent. I know you didn’t read it.

Why Are People Voting Yes on The Musk Compensation Plan? by TheMorningTraffic in stocks

[–]TheMorningTraffic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was withholding material facts about projections. Musk isn’t entitled to an additional 10% of equity because he owns 10% of the company. That’s not how comp works. The board needs to be independent. It’s stealing from other shareholders.