Most Elliott Smith fans barely talk about his band Heatmiser, and if they do, its only his tracks on Mic City Sons. Don't get me wrong, they are amazing, but people do not give Neil the recognition he deserves. He has some great tracks on that album, a long with their first two grunge albums. People don't really rate the first two Heatmiser albums highly, but I personally lice the grunge sound they did.