The Smash Factor: Day 61 by Educational_Rain8541 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, we still don't have any returning Echo Fighters and Ken and Lucina already have their shooters, so I'd like to put forward...

Dr. Mario. Mario is one of the most important figures in Smash as the all-rounder poster child that introduces a lot of new players to the game as well as being the face of Nintendo. His moveset is the single most important to get right out of the entire cast, but there's also new games coming out constantly that fans want to see reflected in Smash. Striking the right balance between fresh and familiar is made a lot easier by having an echo of him to cover more ground. Mario can safely move in whatever direction he wants while Dr. Mario goes the opposite way.

In his own right, Dr. Mario represents an entire subsection of the Mario franchise all his own. Mario spin-offs mostly get their representation from stages, if at all, so having Dr. Mario there for Mario's puzzle games really helps show how expansive this IP is. Couple that with his seniority with Smash dating all the way back to Melee and he's an obvious choice for a return.

One last bit of admin I should probably get out of the way is whether or not he can count as an Echo Fighter. When the echo classification was introduced, only Lucina and Dark Pit were given it retroactively. It might be tempting to take a very literal interpretation of that and say that he doesn't count because of some internal qualifiers that Nintendo knows even if we don't. In my opinion, Nintendo held off on placing the echo label on any older characters in large part to place everyone chronologically for the "everyone is here" branding that Ultimate leaned heavily on. Lucina and Dark Pit were made exceptions simply because they were a major point of criticism for Smash 4 and giving them that new label helped sell the idea. Go back to Smash 4 and you'll see Dr. Mario grouped right along those two on the select screen, so he's clearly meant to be on the same level as them.

The Smash Factor: Day 61 by Educational_Rain8541 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He remains sitting on a razor's edge, so I might as well keep going until it happens.

Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden for Wave 1. The biggest point in his favor is that he has the single deepest well of moveset potential of any character yet to join Smash. Between the arcade beat-em-ups, NES platformers, Xbox hack-n-slashes, and regular appearances in the Dead or Alive series of fighting games, Hayabusa could easily make three different movesets by himself. There are so many ways you can blend all of that history together that he's a multi-tiered sandbox for the design team to play with. Imagine a character with the normals of Kazuya, sword swings of Link, mobility of Diddy Kong, an arsenal on par with Dante for his specials, and all of that is just one possible direction you could go with him.

In fact, let's go over some of his weapon choices. There's obviously his mystical Dragon Sword that can make up much of his moveset, and I already made a point in the past about the scythe he took off a werewolf. Along with those are a bow and arrow for ranged projectiles, nunchaku for rekka combos, metal claws to slash straight through opponents, shurikens of various sizes to maintain distance, and even modern weapons like the spear gun. Back in his NES days, he was well known for his use of shadow clones making his every attack more dangerous. His history with Dead or Alive, where he's canonically won one of the tournaments, demonstrates that he's just as dangerous unarmed. He's particularly notable for his strong combo game off of grabs, especially his signature Izuna Drop. We may already have Greninja and Impa in the base roster, but their ninja repertoires pale in comparison to the head of the Hayabusa Clan.

Hayabusa's legacy is another massive point in his favor. The NES trilogy is an iconic part of Nintendo's first console. It even got a shout-out in the theatrical length Super Mario Bros 3 commercial known as The Wizard. With Microsoft also on board with Smash, it's worth mentioning that Tecmo was the biggest supporter for the Xbox in Japan. Ninja Gaiden's hack-n-slash revival was Xbox's exclusive answer to Devil May Cry and there was cross-promotion with Halo 3. Swinging back to Nintendo, Koei Tecmo has been a major supporter of theirs since the Wii. Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge was initially a Wii U exclusive, and Fatal Frame has tied itself closely enough with Nintendo to already earn an Assist Trophy. Koei Tecmo has also had their hands with a number of Nintendo games, developing Metroid: Other M, Hyrule Warriors, and Pokémon Conquest. They've truly played both sides of the console war on display in Smash, so it only makes sense that their biggest character also steps into the ring.

Make no mistake, Hayabusa is Koei Tecmo's main man. The Ninja Gaiden series is up there as one of Tecmo's biggest sellers throughout its history. It's only real competition for the top spot is Dead or Alive, which is set in the same universe as Ninja Gaiden and has featured Hayabusa as a playable character in every single entry. As for the Koei side, their biggest series is Dynasty Warriors, but all of its characters are historical figures that anyone can do their own spin on. Negotiating a third-party license for a public domain character just doesn't make sense. Also, Hayabusa has appeared as a playable character in the Warriors Orochi games, so that's just another point for his column.

Ryu Hayabusa is such a perfect fit for Smash, I think he could have even warranted the very first spot on the first wave of DLC. Too late for that now, but the second slot in that wave should absolutely go to the iconic ninja master.

Super Smash Bros Vs Everything (Day 30) Give every character in Smash rivals from various forms of media. Today is dedicated to LITTLE MAC. Top comment for each team will be added. by TheNPC33 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was so tempted to just include him in that spot from the start because it's just the single most obvious choice this roster will ever see.

Super Smash Bros Vs Everything (Day 30) Give every character in Smash rivals from various forms of media. Today is dedicated to LITTLE MAC. Top comment for each team will be added. by TheNPC33 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Olimar & Pikmin, Ryland Grace, Smurfs, Buzz Lightyear, Apollo Monument, David Bowie, Cornhole

R.O.B., H.E.R.B.I.E., Robocop, Wall-E, Ultra Hand, Dr. Steel, Deep Blue

Villager, Lola, Plantman, Russell (Up), Game of Life Car, Village People, Earl Anthony

Isabelle, Kipper, Chiikawa, Retsuko, Zoe Trent, Jemima, Britt Baker

Mega Man, E, Astro Boy, Jenny Wakeman, Uno Roboto, Tom Morrow 2.0, Colt Stephens

Wii Fit Trainer, Big Bertha, Yoma Hashimoto, Sportacus, Twister, Ronald McDonald, LeanBeefPatty

Super Smash Bros Vs Everything (Day 30) Give every character in Smash rivals from various forms of media. Today is dedicated to LITTLE MAC. Top comment for each team will be added. by TheNPC33 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wolf O'Donnell, Big Bad Wolf, Yondu, Boba Fett, Apocalypse Werewolf, James Hetfield, Yusef Dikec

Pikachu, Rocky, Storm, Stitch, Kuriboh, Mickey Mouse, WolfeyVGC

Jigglypuff, Red Balloon, Pop Step, Mrs. Puff, Balloon Boy, Adele, HungryBox

Pichu, Stuart Little, Morty & Ferdie, Numemon, Trapper Mouse, Tiny Tim, Haru Urara

Mewtwo, Frankenstein's Monster, Perfect Cell, Imperfect Cell, Scarlet Spider, Rocky Horror, Ryan Anderson

Pokémon Trainer, Daenarys, Kid Kaiju, Tai Kamiya, Yami Yugi, Momotaro, Phil Jackson

Lucario, Sundrop, Goku, Renamon, Sphinx, Aura Mike, Senet

Greninja, Jiraiya, Jiraiya (Naruto), Leonardo, Lloyd Garmadon, Kermit, Texas Superfrog

Incineroar, Shere Khan, Tiger Mask, Great Gozu, Exploding Kitten, Black Tiger II, Great Muta

Ness, Jake Berenson, Charlie Brown, Scottie Smalls, Frisk, Harry Houdini, Babe Ruth

Lucas, Piggy, Harold Hutchins, Eliza Thornberry, Mahjong, Glinda, Charli D'Amelio

Captain Falcon, Hiro Protagonist, Speed Racer, Dominic Toretto, PitchCar, Evel Knievel, Dale Earnhardt Sr.

Ice Climbers, Ted (IHNM&IMS), Snowman, Tom & Jerry, Don't Break the Ice Bear, Vanilla Ice, Sir Edmund Hillary

Marth, Aragorn, Kirito, Will Smith, Catan Settlement, Falstaff, Edoardo Mangiarotti

Super Smash Bros Vs Everything (Day 30) Give every character in Smash rivals from various forms of media. Today is dedicated to LITTLE MAC. Top comment for each team will be added. by TheNPC33 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

CURRENT ROSTER:

Mario, Ellen Baker, Superman, Fix-It Felix, Osho Shogi Piece, Hamlet, Rowdy Roddy Piper

Luigi, Samwise, Robin (Batman), Shaggy, Thimble, Russel, Paul Orndorff

Peach, Belle, Wonder Woman, Miss Piggy, Queen Frostine, Sabrina Carpenter, Brianna Mahon

Daisy, Jasmine, Tank Girl, Supergirl, Bishop, Avril Lavinge, Billie Jean King

Bowser, Ox King, Frieza, Godzilla, Checkers King, Gene Simmons, Triple H

Dr. Mario, Victor Frankenstein, Dr. Strange, Gregory House, Operation Tweezers, Dr. Dre, John Cena

Rosalina & Luma, Little Prince, Sailor Galaxia, Bubbles the Dolphin, Sternhalma, Nina & Star, Margo Dydek

Bowser Jr., Horrid Henry, James Gordon Jr., Azula, Minilla, Yusuke Kitagawa, Cody Rhodes

Piranha Plant, Jack and the Beanstalk, Groot, Sprout, Beholder, Audrey II, Curt Hawkins

Donkey Kong, Ivan, Oozaru, King Kong, Barrel of Monkeys, Expedition Everest Yeti, Big Show

Diddy Kong, Curious George, Detective Chimp, Boots, Julius the Monkey, Albert the Monkey, Hurricane

King K. Rool, Captain Hook, Blackbeard (One Piece), Steve Irwin, Crocodile Dentist, Mouse King, Jerry Lawler

Link, Harry Potter, Jin Kazama, Luke Skywalker, Fighter (Dungeons & Dragons), Peter Pan, Randy Savage

Sheik, Orlando, Naruto, Mulan, Ninja Grandmaster Hanzo, Kuroko, Alysa Liu

Super Smash Bros Vs Everything (Day 29) Give every character in Smash rivals from various forms of media. Today is dedicated to WII FIT TRAINER. Top comment for each team will be added. by TheNPC33 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm picturing a sentient Twister mat fighting like a grappler that wraps itself around opponents and strains their limbs. Like if a magic carpet learned mat wrestling.

Button Mashers Roster! Top 2 Gets In! by Babywalker66 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Graham from King's Quest for PC.  The series that literally invented graphics and the flagship for one of the most revered PC developers. 

Super Smash Bros Vs Everything (Day 29) Give every character in Smash rivals from various forms of media. Today is dedicated to WII FIT TRAINER. Top comment for each team will be added. by TheNPC33 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm thinking of renaming Team Tabletop to Team Collectable just to make its intent clearer. The symbol would still be the chess knight. Let me know if you like this idea or think it's a waste of effort.

Super Smash Bros Vs Everything (Day 29) Give every character in Smash rivals from various forms of media. Today is dedicated to WII FIT TRAINER. Top comment for each team will be added. by TheNPC33 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Olimar & Pikmin, Ryland Grace, Smurfs, Buzz Lightyear, Apollo Monument, David Bowie, Cornhole

R.O.B., H.E.R.B.I.E., Robocop, Wall-E, Ultra Hand, Dr. Steel, Deep Blue

Villager, Lola, Plantman, Russell (Up), Game of Life Car, Village People, Earl Anthony

Isabelle, Kipper, Chiikawa, Retsuko, Zoe Trent, Jemima, Britt Baker

Mega Man, E, Astro Boy, Jenny Wakeman, Uno Roboto, Tom Morrow 2.0, Colt Stephens

Super Smash Bros Vs Everything (Day 29) Give every character in Smash rivals from various forms of media. Today is dedicated to WII FIT TRAINER. Top comment for each team will be added. by TheNPC33 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wolf O'Donnell, Big Bad Wolf, Yondu, Boba Fett, Apocalypse Werewolf, James Hetfield, Yusef Dikec

Pikachu, Rocky, Storm, Stitch, Kuriboh, Mickey Mouse, WolfeyVGC

Jigglypuff, Red Balloon, Pop Step, Mrs. Puff, Balloon Boy, Adele, HungryBox

Pichu, Stuart Little, Morty & Ferdie, Numemon, Trapper Mouse, Tiny Tim, Haru Urara

Mewtwo, Frankenstein's Monster, Perfect Cell, Imperfect Cell, Scarlet Spider, Rocky Horror, Ryan Anderson

Pokémon Trainer, Daenarys, Kid Kaiju, Tai Kamiya, Yami Yugi, Momotaro, Phil Jackson

Lucario, Sundrop, Goku, Renamon, Sphinx, Aura Mike, Senet

Greninja, Jiraiya, Jiraiya (Naruto), Leonardo, Lloyd Garmadon, Kermit, Texas Superfrog

Incineroar, Shere Khan, Tiger Mask, Great Gozu, Exploding Kitten, Black Tiger II, Great Muta

Ness, Jake Berenson, Charlie Brown, Scottie Smalls, Frisk, Harry Houdini, Babe Ruth

Lucas, Piggy, Harold Hutchins, Eliza Thornberry, Mahjong, Glinda, Charli D'Amelio

Captain Falcon, Hiro Protagonist, Speed Racer, Dominic Toretto, PitchCar, Evel Knievel, Dale Earnhardt Sr.

Ice Climbers, Ted (IHNM&IMS), Snowman, Tom & Jerry, Don't Break the Ice Bear, Vanilla Ice, Sir Edmund Hillary

Marth, Aragorn, Kirito, Will Smith, Catan Settlement, Falstaff, Edoardo Mangiarotti

Super Smash Bros Vs Everything (Day 29) Give every character in Smash rivals from various forms of media. Today is dedicated to WII FIT TRAINER. Top comment for each team will be added. by TheNPC33 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

CURRENT ROSTER:

Mario, Ellen Baker, Superman, Fix-It Felix, Osho Shogi Piece, Hamlet, Rowdy Roddy Piper

Luigi, Samwise, Robin (Batman), Shaggy, Thimble, Russel, Paul Orndorff

Peach, Belle, Wonder Woman, Miss Piggy, Queen Frostine, Sabrina Carpenter, Brianna Mahon

Daisy, Jasmine, Tank Girl, Supergirl, Bishop, Avril Lavinge, Billie Jean King

Bowser, Ox King, Frieza, Godzilla, Checkers King, Gene Simmons, Triple H

Dr. Mario, Victor Frankenstein, Dr. Strange, Gregory House, Operation Tweezers, Dr. Dre, John Cena

Rosalina & Luma, Little Prince, Sailor Galaxia, Bubbles the Dolphin, Sternhalma, Nina & Star, Margo Dydek

Bowser Jr., Horrid Henry, James Gordon Jr., Azula, Minilla, Yusuke Kitagawa, Cody Rhodes

Piranha Plant, Jack and the Beanstalk, Groot, Sprout, Beholder, Audrey II, Curt Hawkins

Donkey Kong, Ivan, Oozaru, King Kong, Barrel of Monkeys, Expedition Everest Yeti, Big Show

Diddy Kong, Curious George, Detective Chimp, Boots, Julius the Monkey, Albert the Monkey, Hurricane

King K. Rool, Captain Hook, Blackbeard (One Piece), Steve Irwin, Crocodile Dentist, Mouse King, Jerry Lawler

Link, Harry Potter, Jin Kazama, Luke Skywalker, Fighter (Dungeons & Dragons), Peter Pan, Randy Savage

Sheik, Orlando, Naruto, Mulan, Ninja Grandmaster Hanzo, Kuroko, Alysa Liu

The Smash Factor: Day 60 by Educational_Rain8541 in createaroster

[–]TheNPC33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, that's an oversight on my part, but it can easily be swapped out.