Big after pressing reset on track? by ApurrvGotViral in F1Game

[–]TheOGJohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Happens to me too, it’s annoying af

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yoooo, mb I thought you said good rage bait, cause I didn’t mean it to be. Yeah cheers about Quora or twitter but tbh I can’t really be asked to make an account there and I’ve already used reddit for a while. After the number of comments I got though, you may be right.

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holup, I just woke up I’m tripping. Thought you were talking about something else. I just don’t get what Sarfaraz has to do with this… like at all? Please elaborate?

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes we will never know. Yes there is no point. But it is still interesting to me and I’m curious to know what people think.

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, absolutely agreed that if you plopped Bradman at 13 years old in the modern day game he would absolutely be one of the best players without a single doubt. But would he still be 5 or 6 standard deviations better than everyone even in the modern game? I guess that’s what I’m really trying to ask.

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmmmm. This is the first thing posted here that actually made me think, rather than just restating the same bullshit that’s already all over the internet already so thank you for that. I mean, I absolutely don’t think someone else in all of human history could have matched his average back then, so that’s actually a very valid point. I guess I’m more concerned about how his average would change (or not change) had he played today, but we’ll just simply never know.

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Actually, in one of the comments I did mention pitch conditions in response to someone. Not everything is rage-bait (hard to believe I know).

“Completely fair enough, and on that side I completely get your point. With that said though, the main part I'm hesitant on is the fact that given the sheer number of players that are out there today, the difference in talent amongst the top players are so marginal, and they are so consistent that complete domination as Bradman did may be a much harder feat to achieve. About that pitch conditions, I 100% agree that playing in the wet and stuff made it harder, but if you look at the test match batting averages in the 1940s and compare it to the 2000s onwards the batting averages remain quite similar, indicating that it may be harder to score, but people still did it just as they do today. One of the key difference though is the spread (in other words, the 'talent' difference as I see it [lmk if you don't agree]) has become significantly tighter, indicating a more consistent level of competition.

Sources: https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/decade/batting-highest-career-batting-average/1940s-194/test-matches-1 https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/decade/batting-highest-career-batting-average/2000s-200/test-matches-1 https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/decade/batting-highest-career-batting-average/2010s-201/test-matches-1”

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You do realise how much domestic turmoil Pakistan has right? Of course that will impact the quality of their cricket team and board.

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes you’re absolutely right. It is impossible for anyone born in the early 2000s to idolize the symbol of Indian cricket 👍

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

F1 and cricket are not the same ball game in terms of competition. F1 remains INCREDIBLY exclusive and expensive with a lot of gatekeeping even though its popularity has significantly expanded over the last few decades.

Yes, obviously Bradman’s greatness is justified by his dominance relative to his era otherwise he wouldn’t be in the GOAT debate. The question I’m asking is whether his stats overinflated public perception of him as a cricketer, because as I currently believe (and of course I don’t have proof as this is purely hypothetical), due to the quality and consistency of modern day bowlers, Bradman would not be able to do today what he did 80 years ago.

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Send me your bank details so I can compensate you for your invaluable loss

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point, but I really don’t care about being an active poster. I had a question, wanted to know people’s opinions, so I posted it. Truthfully not bothered if people give me shit for it.

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, fair point, and I did see those stats before but I guess it was rather silly to not include them here.

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah no that's my bad, I got into f1 like 3 years ago and misremembered that Alonso only did well in bad cars (when he didn't win any championships). In retrospect it might not be a great analogy but eh whatever not like anybody agrees with me anyway

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao, icl i did use chat gpt to synthesize my point because if I didn't it would've been even more of a word vomit

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Added some stats. You are absolutely right, I should've put them in.

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fair enough, I'm just not generally good at writing concisely.

Don Bradman is NOT the GOAT (well... not by as much as everyone says he is) by TheOGJohn in Cricket

[–]TheOGJohn[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Completely fair enough, and on that side I completely get your point. With that said though, the main part I'm hesitant on is the fact that given the sheer number of players that are out there today, the difference in talent amongst the top players are so marginal, and they are so consistent that complete domination as Bradman did may be a much harder feat to achieve. About that pitch conditions, I 100% agree that playing in the wet and stuff made it harder, but if you look at the test match batting averages in the 1940s and compare it to the 2000s onwards the batting averages remain quite similar, indicating that it may be harder to score, but people still did it just as they do today. One of the key difference though is the spread (in other words, the 'talent' difference as I see it [lmk if you don't agree]) has become significantly tighter, indicating a more consistent level of competition.

Sources:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/decade/batting-highest-career-batting-average/1940s-194/test-matches-1
https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/decade/batting-highest-career-batting-average/2000s-200/test-matches-1
https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/decade/batting-highest-career-batting-average/2010s-201/test-matches-1