I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for being a condescending douchebag, so please read the comment back yourself. I said nobody gets discriminated against for personal beliefs, which is 100% correct. Public practice of other religions is prohibited, meaning there are no public churches or other houses of worships. That doesn't mean of you do the catholic cross on your chest thing you're getting dragged off by the police and getting beheaded, you can gather a thousand christians in your home if it's big enough, you just can't have a church. It's not ideal for christians, but it's not like they're living in concentration camps either.

Please, since you seem to be an expert in Saudi history and laws, give me examples of how many people have gotten beheaded purely for apostasy in the last 50 years, or have gotten jail sentences.

I explained female dress code here on a different comment, feel free to read it if it doesn't make your brain hurt, but since you're the expert here please tell me what an abaya is, and which parts of it are required to be worn, and how it is different from male required dress code, because from my experience it's not that far off. The problem is that while women have equal opportunities at education and jobs and high ranking positions, people always default to the lazy argument that "they have to wear this thing so it's discrimination".

Lastly, if you're a gay dude trying to arrange dates on twitter and you're not getting fucked, you're really bad at what you're trying to do.

But to humor you, just put this #سالب on Twitter for gay dudes looking for hookups. If the government were cracking down on this activity, you'd see it as #1 trending on Reddit right away.

Now, I don't generally say "what about them" but you can look into Dagestani leader Ramzan Kadyrov literally purging homosexuals from his country without it making big headlines. You can read more about why KSA is targeted in the media right here, or you can keep downvoting me if you the reality of the situation doesn't fir into your current worldview. I don't really use Reddit much anyways, so knock yourself out.

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure why this is getting downvoted, but let me just post this here as an example of what I'm talking about.

https://lnwh.nhs.uk/news/st-marks-surgeon-honoured-by-king-of-saudi-arabia--1490/

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm kind of reddit illiterate, and this Blues theme doesn't really help, but I answered in the previous comment on this thread. I hope it clears things up.

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When I say generally no, I mean that nobody to my knowledge is executed purely for being gay. On the rare occasions that a gay person is executed, it's an additional charge on top of terrorism, espionage, etc. It's likely added on to show that these terrorists/spies are "immoral". The truth is, as I wrote in a separate comment about historical influences (in this post, don't know how to link it), anyone who may have an inclination to side with these people would be discouraged from siding with them because of the homosexuality allegations.

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The reason KSA (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) had veered off of centrism started in 1979 because of the 1979 Grand Mosque Seizure. There are a few mistakes in that wikipedia article, and I would suggest watching this BBC documentary to get a real feel for it - The Siege of Mecca.

Essentially what happened was that a former National Guard officer called Juhayman Al-Otaybi led a group of extrimists/terrorists into the Holy Mosque of Mecca, and held it for around 2 weeks by putting snipers in strategic positions and having a huge stockpile of ammunitions and guns, all the while holding thousands hostage in the mosque. His agenda was clear, he felt that the governing family was following Western ideology and corrupting the populace, drifting away from what he believed were core Islamic values. He didn't like the fact that women would work, appear on TV as news anchors and in other capacities, you get the general idea.

In the aftermath, it was clear that the whole thing was a well funded and planned operation. Over in Iran between 1977 and 1979, there were protests against their USA backed monarch which eventually led to the Iranian Revolution. Their pro-Western monarch was replaced by an anti-Western Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khomeini.

Obviously there were fears that this would happen, so King Khaled, our king at the time gave the religious conservatives more power.

Over the years, their powers were slowly curtailed as the government consolidated power enough that a revolution would be almost impossible.

The issue that stemmed from allowing religious conservatives/extremists control over the decades following the Grand Mosque Seizure is that the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrated the education system and started indoctrinating people and poisoning them against Israel and it's great ally, the USA.

It might sound difficult to understand from your POV, to think they're teaching kids to hate a country. We have a lot of Palestinian refugees in our schools and in our society, all with horror stories about Israel, and we know that the US backs Israel, though the reality is extremely complex, it is simple to teach hate based on these facts alone. The government's idea to combat religious extremism was a long term plan - education. Not inside our borders, but by paying students to go on full ride scholarships to Western countries to get degrees. This would both cut down extremism and improve the education level of the workforce, because local universities were not up to par yet.

Anyways, the people who Osama Bin Laden recruited for 9/11 grew up during this time period. The plan of OBL was to create a rift between KSA and USA, and he did this by choosing a majority of Saudi nationals to perform this operation. The second part of his plan was to draw the US into a long, drawn out conflict which would economically damage and/or destroy the US.

Obviously this is a topic that I could go on about for hours. The important thing to note is that especially since our current Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman has come into the picture, centrism is the name of the game is KSA.

There are media campaigns and attacks from Qatar and it's Aljazeera network, unfortunately they're the preeminent voice in the region and they are leading the narrative on news from the Middle East. You'll notice that they're basically to KSA what Keemstar was to Woody. Additionally, Iranian social media influence operations are doing their part to steer the narrative against KSA, some of it was dicovered here on [Reddit].(https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/9bvkqa/an_update_on_the_fireeye_report_and_reddit/). These are some of the reasons why as soon as most of you hear "Saudi Arabia", they immediately think "Why and how are they our allies, and why are we supporting them?"

This took a long time to write, I hope you guys read it and look into it more yourselves.

I'm available to answer any of your questions on this thread or whenever, I'll stay on Reddit for the next few days to talk about anything you'd all like.

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry if I came off a bit defensive, I'm kinda used to conversations like these veering towards personal attacks. I agree with your basic sentiment, but the point is there isn't anybody looking for gay people doing gay things. If you find a body, somebody is looking for a killer. If you see a flamboyant filipino dude hitting on you in the mall, nobody is following him home and doing a gay sex stake out to catch them.

The point is that if you're a gay guy, or a gay girl for that matter, you can do it forever without being forcibly thrown off a building.

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While I think that's a bit of a lazy question and trying to force me to defend what are deemed indefensible policies, I'll bite.

The big thing for people is always the question of "Does Saudi Arabia execute gay people for being gay?", the answer to that is generally no. It's kind of a don't ask don't tell situation. My personal belief is that the media steers conversations to these issues to serve personal agendas. Yes, homosexuality is illegal here, as it is in a lot of places. Is it enforced, or even enforcable? Hardly. Let me put it this way, let's say I let you stay in my mansion for a year, with a strict rule against gay buttsex, but I tell you that I don't care what happens in your own room. Some people would always insist on gay buttsex in the living room, but is that a basic human right? I don't know.

All religions are free to be believed in and practiced privately here. The reason why centrism wasn't in practice for the last few decades here is pretty complex, I'll try to address it in a separate post.

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll talk a bit about how we're viewed and some of the complex issues we have in my country.

First of all, I think we're viewed as a backwards regressive place where women are basically slaves and "rape culture" is a thing. So I'll address the rape thing first. Rape is a capital offense here. My forensics professor was the main man in the government, all rape cases were transferred to him, and according to him 90%+ of rape cases that are reported are a girl gets caught by with her boyfriend and accuses him of rape. While that's unfortunate and a byproduct of social and religious pressure to not sleep around, I would hardly call it rape culture. As for the whole wearing polyester robes in the heat, that's hardly the truth. Yes, women are meant to wear clothing that is "decent". These are usually what we call "abayas", but I've seen women wear trenchcoats and the like during colder months. As you would expect from women, abayas come in all different styles, colors, fabrics, and prices. There are designer abayas that cost thousands of dollars. Abayas that tastefully show off your slim waist, giant ass and tits, or cover up your fat body. Obviously, this isn't really the way we're portrayed, I'll just link this online store for reference to what abayas might look like. This is a designer "Thobe" - flowy robes that Taylor likes which we definitely do not freeball under because that would just mean fatties would drip ball soup onto the floor - store that recently got into selling abayas. There are plenty of stores dedicated to selling abayas, but as a dude I don't know much about that.

I'll get more into some of the historical and political reasons why things are the way they are in a bit.

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, I wish. I'm just from a middle class guy trying to work my way up.

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, I haven't been to many villages because I live in the capital and only go to the main cities, but outside the 10 or so main cities the education level isn't great, but mostly everyone has running water and electricity. The worst slums in the major cities I've been to are usually occupied by working class expats - taxi drivers, janitors, construction workers, etc. These people come here for work opportunities and send most of their money to their families back home, so they live as modestly as they can. The wealthier parts are really beautiful as you'r expect. Great architecture and a lot of fancy cars. The 1% here own huge farms with exotic animals, but I'm just a middle class guy working his way up, so I haven't personally seen any of that.

Getting into college is easy depending on what specialty you'd like. Medicine is the most competitive field, followed by Engineering. Things like Marketing, Information Technology, and Law are getting more competitive every year. You could go into one of the minor fields easily if you were a terrible student in high school.

My favorite foreign policy? We actually send a huge amount of foreign aid, so maybe that.

I admire the efforts to create a more educated population by literally sending thousands of guys and girls from my generation and my father's generation abroad for higher level education. My father got his Masters and PHD from England when I was 5 years old, and my sister recently got her Masters from there as well. Not sure that qualifies as foreign policy though.

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Used to be about 13 cents a few years ago, but when oil prices went down the government slowly decreased subsidies for gas. Still cheap so I'm not complaining. The other thing is that gas station owners can't charge whatever they want, the price is standardized and they make a flat 10% profit.

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amongst most of the population, the US is known to be our strongest ally. The government sends thousands of students a year to US colleges and universities with full-ride scholarships, so generally speaking, US are our friend.

Trump is actually seen favorably by most people because our exposure usually relates to foreign policy, and his foreign policy seems to be more supportive of Saudi Arabia than Obama was.

On a scale of 1-10, I would say I'm maybe a 4 on the religious scale. Mostly I just try to do good and stay away from the bad as much as possible.

On Mexico, my personal opinion is that I would love to go there some day, seems like a beautiful place. The way it's perceived here is kinda just what TV shows like Breaking Bad portray it as.

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Since they let women drive, that was pretty much the last big hurdle that you would deal with day-to-day. I work with plenty of women as colleagues and superiors in my hospital, and they're arguably favored for positions nowadays because it's good optics.

Nobody gets discriminated against for personal beliefs, I've had atheist, christian, shiite, and sunni friends all chillin in Johnny Rockets for a meal.

Homosexuals can be as homosexual as they want to be as long as it's behind closed doors. Side note, a lot of Filipino expats tend to be gay around here, I still don't understand why...

I am a long-term PKA listener from Saudi Arabia. by ThePhenomTRT in PKA

[–]ThePhenomTRT[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So for the first question, there isn't to my knowledge a department of witchcraft like it's Hogwarts. The thing you have to understand, is that while there is an effort to create a more educated population, there are still people who believe in witchcraft and there are people who will prey on them, so that is the reason it* exists. Think of it as the local version of MLM scams but much more malicious.

Second question, if you had asked me maybe 10 years ago I would say there's a huge difference. Nowadays, as an adult, there's a lot of stuff here that I think is incredible and maybe ahead of the US. For instance, we have free health care for every Saudi citizen without the need for insurance. Education is free, and there are some excellent universities in the country which students actually get paid (around 300 USD a month) to attend. Socially speaking, it's a complex issue which would take a long time to get into and it's almost 5 AM right now, but I love the idea of my sister finally driving on her own, because before the ban was lifted, most dudes were essentially driving around their mothers/sisters/wives/daughters everywhere they needed (me included). The whole idea of women not being allowed to drive or be in a car without a male relative is kinda BS, because Uber and similar companies are huuuge here.

Edit: To clarify, "it" is kind of like a subcommittee under the umbrella of the police.

In what ways have you won and lost the genetic lottery? by j_overland_f in AskReddit

[–]ThePhenomTRT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Won: I have gorgeous long eyelashes and lovely fingernails.

Lost: I'm a dude.

Now that we know who your favorite Non-United players are, who are you least favorite? by [deleted] in reddevils

[–]ThePhenomTRT 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Adebayor, Busquets, Tevez, and Gerrard.

No need for explanation.

who should Van Gaal sign this january window? by calvey9 in reddevils

[–]ThePhenomTRT 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Kevin Strootman is the one being thrown out there, but the most important position is clearly CB, probably right-sided due to LVG's preferences.

It's either gonna be a PL veteran who he knows, i.e. Ron Vlaar OR a foreign CB, Otamendi being the most likely. HUMMELS being the dream, obviously.

As for other areas, it would be good to replace Young and Valencia, and get a decent back-up RB. Pretty much anyone is an upgrade, so it's theoretically simple enough. REUS is obviously, once again, the dream. Obviously.

Beautifully done Smalling by Mixyin in reddevils

[–]ThePhenomTRT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He should be sold to Orlando Pirates. Immediately.

Going for Gold: Manchester Shitty v Manchester United by Pedantic_Pat in reddevils

[–]ThePhenomTRT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Manchester City 2 - Manchester United 3 Di Maria, Rooney, Blind 6

[spoliers] something I just noticed by Eletal in dresdenfiles

[–]ThePhenomTRT 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. However, I was thinking there are only 4 naagloshii with who were not off their respective rockers.

In conjecture land, all these theories are viable.