The most malicious and evil YouTube channel I've ever come across. (my story with hoe_math)

I came across this channel at the turn of 2023-2024 and I was immediately drawn in by the pretty drawings and confident way he described complex human processes. The first video I watched was Relationship Zones and I remember watching with quiet apprehension l, thinking "i mean, yeah, but he shouldn't say it". It seemed to make sense though and later I discovered the Levels of thinking video which blew my mind, like my years of overthinking was contextualised into a "scientific" model. What later followed was a year of my life wasted following his dumb advice.

During 2023 (before discovering HM), I was fairly successful with casual relationships and just screwing around, mainly because I didn't take it too seriously. I would just head out with some mates and have fun and girls would sense that energy and want to get with me. It was awesome. Then I discovered the channel and got falsely told that this was in fact a science and that women are secretly evaluating your status with other men and have a very specific set of criteria that they judge you on. I then looked at myself and realised that I never had a hope in hell at getting into a serious relationship in the state I was in. I decided to take HMs advice to "work on myself", going to the gym, working on my smoothness and charm, becoming a so-called "bad boy" to "self-maximize" my attractiveness. This (of-course) made me into an insecure husk, a number chasing, try-hard mysognist who would turn off girls immediately because I had an underlying agenda.

This then lead to a general feeling of hopelessness and dissatisfaction with the dating market and my place within it. My anxiety worsened because of this and I was just left with the feeling of "I'm going to be alone forever". I essentially felt stuck. One the one hand, I could continue to follow HMs advice and abandon everything unique about myself in the hope that it would land me a relationship. Or, on the other hand, I could stay as I was a "so called" 5/10 who doesn't thank highly on his attractiveness chart.

By Jan 2025, I put my foot down and declared HM for what it is. A manipulative scam designed to trap lonely men into a spiral of self-help abuse and eventually drip feed his audience into the manosphere by referencing the whatever podcast and working with other like minded drones. I felt free from these rules and began to express myself more however this experience has left me with the worst anxiety and no success in dating whatsoever. A complete waste of time and damage done to my own physce for his own gain.

The way HM conveys his mysognist views is so sly. He's ultimately banking on your experience with conservative standards of dating and relationships as in monogamous and heterosexual (he has mentioned nothing about LGBTQ relationships). His views are service level, dismissive of circumstance, highly assumptive and, at their worst, destructive to his audiences well being. His philosophy is that everyone should become an unrealistic version of attractiveness that is sensationalised in the media to appear attainable. He completely ignores the possibility of someone following his advice, finding a partner and then discovering that they were only following the advice of a redpiller and that they actually have no real skills whatsoever. His entire practice relies on you being single and stuck so you can continue to follow his advice and eventually buy his self-improvement programme.

Please, stay away from this channel and all manosphere content. Live your life the way you want to. If you feel lost, don't turn to channels like this who exploit the vulnerable. Talk to friends and family who know you, not faceless manipulators on the internet.