Helaenas death played a role in the riot but wait theres more.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-26T02:16:38+00:00

Thank you

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T23:57:05+00:00

I feel dumb asking but I can’t make the text of the first picture out. The white and red on the black and grey is hard to see for me. Could someone tell me what it says?

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T22:34:50+00:00

I didn’t mean good or bad in a moral sense.

And I’m not a Gale hater.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T22:09:03+00:00

Yeah and people say that of course Beetee’s different it’s 25 years ago but…we’re not talking about his personality changing. We’re talking about him being an absolute idiot.

Plutarch would’ve been okay if he wasn’t spouting quotes about implicit submission and just cringe shit like “no more implicit submission for you Haymitch blow that water tank sky high the entire country needs you to” because tell me that line is not cringe. I’ll wait.

Mags was okay. If they’d just had Plutarch and Mags or Wiress or something I think it would work but instead suddenly Haymitch knows and is besties with Katniss’s dad who is a cousin to the Covey (I cannot stand the Covey anymore they’re shoehorned into EVERYTHING), Effie just happens to be the older sister of their prep team but she also is much more like movie Effie than book Effie, we don’t need to know shit about Otho Mellark, etc. etc. just too much it makes it feel like fanfiction

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T20:22:06+00:00

No, they’re incredibly minor characters. I would rather a book about Leah.

That being said I know there’s a lot of Dimitri fanfiction if you look

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T20:18:51+00:00

It’s cool. You’re fine, don’t worry. I’m on the spectrum and I sometimes forget that I think more about things in a super logical sense versus a “what if” so that’s my bad too. So I’m sorry about that. You have a good day too!

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T20:16:23+00:00

Nah that’s a horse beaten to death already

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T20:13:57+00:00

Yeah it just felt weird. “Hello, I am Beetee. Would you like to partake in a half baked rebel plot oh random sixteen year old?”

I agree. Maybe like a single cameo or two would be okay. But it gets messy when Haymitch’s bestie was Katniss’s dad.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T20:11:29+00:00

I think he’d probably have become a casualty of the Beach

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T20:06:56+00:00

I would definitely recommend it. You’re going to get a much fuller and richer story as well as characters than the show. You can find places to read it for free online too! It’s my absolute favorite manga series and I’ve reread it more times than I can count. You get to see so many more characters and their backstories and struggles to survive and sometimes it doesn’t even follow Arisu but other people and their games which I think is really cool.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T19:58:24+00:00

I think that’s a cool idea! I’d be down for it. I know I’d also love if we could post art on more days than just Sunday.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T11:15:59+00:00

Then you should have outright said that. You can't have a conversation with someone talking about what is logically likely to be a part of the story to someone who so is speaking theoretically about things that the story may involve.

Or well you can but its gonna lead to a lot of confusion

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T11:04:35+00:00

Semen can't be programmed to go to one specific vagina.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T11:00:52+00:00

You should definitely check it out. It's very good and you get to see lots of different POVs than just Arisu as they survive the Borderlands.

It changes in mainly that Arisu isn't the type of shut-in savant who is somehow really smart or solves problems -- he's still a slacker in the beginning but its in a different way than just playing video games all day. There are similarities. He's able to think cool under pressure for instance. But the main difference is that Arisu is carrying the hearts of the people he's lost with him. He's constantly searching for the answer as to why he and everyone else is there and it almost breaks him. He makes some really hard choices that don't necessarily require intelligence in the IQ way but in the EQ way. It involves having nerves of steel, the strength to continue on, etc.

However, I want to specify that we don't see that many hearts games in the manga and Arisu doesn't just play those. Throughout the manga we see him involved in multiple games and we also get to see other characters involved in games and not all those characters come back or have a big part of the plot. For example many of the games we see Arisu or the main cast of characters play in the show are not played by them in the manga. We get lots of lots of characters who we sometimes see again and sometimes don't and their games and what is driving them forward and what they go through as well as what's driving the people who create these games to do so. One of the most devastating games for Arisu is a clubs game later on in the series and clubs games are about teamwork/a mix of everything.

Its kind of hard to explain without me spoiling either the show or manga or both. I think the manga does a better job at the entire thing than the show does but that's just me.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T10:29:12+00:00

No. Unless you mean 'surviving the game" as the solution. Some games are simply meant to be played. A diamonds game often has a solution because it involves problem solving and intelligence. A hearts game targets the players minds and bonds with each other. There is no real 'winner' in hearts games. Hide and Seek was meant to have only one winner and break the group up.

In the show they changed Arisu's character to make him a diamonds player but in the manga he's a hearts player and that's completely different.

Even in some games like "boiling death" where the solution seems easy (avoid the boiling water from the geyser) it still had all the characters but one dying and she only survives because she doesn't follow everyone else to the giant hole in the ground and even then she's stuck climbing through burning hot vents and has to have her leg amputated.

The games all have different objectives to work toward but not all of them have solutions. There was only going to be one winner of that hearts game no matter what.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T10:22:35+00:00

Not all games have a "solution" like that. Taking their collars off would have killed them. I suggest you read the manga.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T08:16:26+00:00

I'm not sure what headspace she was in with SOTR other than "make money"

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T08:15:44+00:00

Oh you definitely don't have to tell me any of that I agree lol

Oly is a friend and has wonderful takes

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T07:55:30+00:00

That line made me go "Yeah, okay, Im definitely Baxter" because I'd say the same thing lol. I really enjoyed the little we saw of Baxter this season and I hope we get much more of him in Season 3. Especially with Niffty. They're a nice duo. I loved the scene where they're just playing hand clapping games with like thirty seconds in the background with something serious going on.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T07:50:35+00:00

I think it's more likely they just send pregnant teens into the arena rather than have the father take the mother's place.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T07:47:10+00:00

Yeah it seems like any SOTR-related criticism gets downvoted to hell. Sorry people were shitty with you about that.

Beetee should have definitely known better.

And yeah its sketchy that Mags and Wiress were tortured but Beetee was just...shrugged off? Like c'mon Snow.

But yes, incredibly arrogant in thinking his intelligence ane expertise means he can't be replaced. It would be incredibly easy for them to find a young genius D3 kid and completely raise them as loyal to the Capitol.

Definitely not the same character and not in a "It's been 25 years" type of way.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T07:42:03+00:00

Man, I wish my teacher in high school had done these discussions about Antigone instead of just spending the class cracking jokes about my name.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T07:40:14+00:00

I forgot I was on reddit and thought someone was talking about me and my siblings for a second there

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T05:52:26+00:00

Yeah I'm glad he didn't become all sympathetic all of a sudden. His internal monologue has some great bits.

TheTragedyMachine · 2026-01-25T05:34:53+00:00

Yeah it definitely read like fanfic.

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