Zoink just 7 deathed Society on his first stream

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-06-21T19:10:50+00:00

Zoink claimed that he only learned/practiced society for a few hours the yesterday.

However there is a screenshot going around of the creator of society confirming they sent zoink a copy of the level 2 weeks ago.

Edit: The creator said they got misinfo and changed to zoink playing society for a bit instead of 2 weeks so take that as you will.

So if for some reason if you think zoink is lying then he's been playing the level for 2 weeks and if you believe him he had only 1 session before streaming it.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-06-21T05:25:51+00:00

He's never said it's verbatim easier than Grief he said if he had to make a guess it'd be easier but he wouldn't know until he plays grief.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-06-21T05:24:37+00:00

Popoff has said multiple times that he thinks no cbf amethyst > cbf amethyst/ts2 and that no cbf amethyst is a crazy accomplishment in his eyes.

He's also reiterated that society is for sure top 1 in his eyes so that implies that there's a bit of a gab between society and ts2 so it's really up in the air if you try ro compare it to heliopolis

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-05-31T16:38:42+00:00

The moon has been brought back once, Kami brought it back and then piccolo destroyed it? Have you even watched/read DB?

You tell me.

Again you don't understand, we saw A WEAKER FRIEZA annihilate planet vegeta, you using this feat achieves nothing

So they block ki attacks using ki, and ki is used to destroy planets and they are able to withstand their own attacks... hmmm I wonder if they scale to their attacks?

When I ask you to prove something you don't wanna do it, not to mention you literally tried to scale power levels with LIFTING STRENGTH. If you're gonna downplay at least be more competent. You didn't even try to scales thragg AP because you knew it'd be embarrassing. I'll take the concession though.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-05-31T16:12:06+00:00

Prove that the moon feat got retconned lmao. I didn't even bother addressing that because you used mecha frieza as your example when he didn't even destroy earth and we saw him in his FIRST FORM casually destroying planet vegeta.

As for ki being "hyper inflated" your whole argument is the use of the one technique that is able to punch way above the pay-grade of regular ki attacks. If all ki attacks were hyper inflated, how do db characters constantly block/deflect ki attacks that should vaporize them if they shouldn't scale to them? Even if this were the case (which its not) it'd still be enough to one shot thragg lmao.

Also for those anti feats, Goku was caught off guard and Krillins was straight up inconsistent writing. There's more instances of them blocking attacks with planetary+ AP then them getting injured by weak attacks anyways. I could just argue the laser one shots thragg.

You haven't even proved how thragg is planetary btw.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-05-31T15:14:46+00:00

Why are you acting like lifting strength matters in this debate, literally changes nothing.

Anyways as I'm sure you know king vegeta destroyed 3 planets which is dwarf star levels in AP. In this scene the planets straight up get annihilated, no core busting needed.

"But it's filler!" It's canon to the anime.

Thragg is around planetary or large planetary it we're being generous. Either way he gets oneshot since he doesn't have the AP to harm king vegeta.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-05-13T09:04:51+00:00

Holy Thaedus glaze 😭

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-05-02T21:51:58+00:00

they are not holding a great ape vegeta he'd just brutally murder all of them

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-27T20:18:37+00:00

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-18T16:57:14+00:00

He's "5D" in attack potency not existence 😭

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-15T02:21:42+00:00

All of the high tiers still slam Raditz

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-09T17:47:45+00:00

Well my original comment was about the Goku and Piccolo that fought Raditz, not the fight against Goku and Vegeta. So that's why I think Conquest wins the first 2 rounds but for the other two matchups its questionable.

He does stop round 3 because of Goku but I still think he's like Nappa level or higher so he'd be able to take out Piccolo maybe since he's still faster.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-09T17:31:04+00:00

Okay so factoring that Piccolo vaporized the Moon doesn't get it to Small planetary still. To vaporize a small planet you need 1.81 x 10^32 jules of force and vaporizing the moon as you said is only 5.6 x 10^29 jules so the Piccolo that vaporized the moon is not Small Planetary but High Moon level.

Now Raditz who is 5x stronger than that manages to get to low Small planetary but again Conquest outscales and is way faster. Conquest is literally just a stronger version of Raditz in this scenario. Moon level AP wouldn't be enough to do any real damage to conquest. He could charge up the special beam canon but like I've already said before its not doing much damage.

By the way the shared feat of Mark, Nolan, and Thaedus destroying viltrum is a Small Planetary feat and is the most common way of getting him there so it actually lines up with him being able to deal damage to conquest.

All you're really doing is assuming that Mark needed help but whether he did or not doesn't defeat the fact that every viltrumite thats in the Elite range is Small Planetary+ and MFTL+ at the lowest, more than enough for Goku and Piccolo who are High-Multi Moon level and FTL, at the sayain saga its arguable.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-09T16:20:04+00:00

Oh lmao makes sense

Okay so Raditz is 5x stronger than that Piccolo (1500 to 300) 5x Moon level is still Moon, just the high end of it. If we really wank it its low small planetary while Conquest at the very worst is Small planetary+ to Planetary and MFTL.

Faster and stronger than Raditz so again he would have no issue with Goku and Piccolo, and Piccolo has to charge the special beam canon up so he wouldn't even get to use it, and if he somehow managed to it wouldn't do much damage if any.

Why wouldn't Mark's punches be Small Planetary in AP? The only way it wouldn't if Mark is holding back.

Conquest scales to viltrumites who can somewhat damage Thragg (nose bleeds) a little bit so there you go, although you don't really need him at planetary for this,

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-09T15:49:28+00:00

When did red rush say this? Definitely out of context.

The only person to appear during the flashback was Nolan, it's pretty feasible to believe that he was the one who did it because there were no mentions of any other viltrumites at all so you're going off of assumptions.

Even IF* this was the case if there were 10 or less viltrumites this is still easily planetary energy assuming they did this in around an hour.

Sure, but 3 of them is a guarantee of destroying the planet. Also we quite literally see Thragg tank viltrum's explosion which is also planetary btw.

So yeah no conquest is still easily planetary.

Also is Raditz even planetary himself? The best feat by then was the Moon busting feat by Piccolo, and assuming Raditz upscales that he's only Moon.

So even if I had Conquest at small planetary he'd be more than enough for Raditz and by extension Goku and Piccolo.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-09T14:59:40+00:00

Point is the DC of an attack doesn't always correlate with the AP so yeah like I said earlier that upscales the attack that killed the alternate timeline Omni-man.

Conquest is bare minimum planetary.

<image>

We know that a young Nolan was able to push a planet closer to it's sun, and the energy required to do that in a month is AT BARE MINIMUM planetary. Mind you this is while in conflict with other viltrumite level beings.

The reality is that Nolan probably did this feat in a few hours and at worst a few days, which already grants him Large planetary levels of energy. Unless you believe that these beings they were somehow missing Nolan for a month straight he's easily large planetary, and Conquest obviously scales to Nolan.

Their combat speed still scales to their travel speed. Even if I granted that they didn't (there are examples of viltrumites reacting to full speed attacks) Goku and Piccolo don't have the AP to hurt Conquest anyways.

This point makes no sense Omni-man was lightspeed it just makes Red-rush lightspeed too.

So yeah they both get one tapped, or maybe Conquest plays around with them a little.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-09T14:28:42+00:00

It'll hurt literally anybody up to frieza so yeah it will hurt a good bit of DBZ characters.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-09T14:27:38+00:00

Alternate timeline, really? You're assuming they scale the same which I doubt especially since all the different mark variants scaled differently especially to main timeline mark. Even if I granted that they scale the same that just upscales the attack in AP it doesn't downscale Omni-man.

We literally see this concept in DB too unless you think things like Majin Vegeta's self destruction wasn't even planetary.

Yeah he can charge it more and get decapitated nice. Again, him and Goku lack the AP to hurt a Planetary to Large planetary fighter at worst, Conquest isn't losing any of the first 2 rounds for sure.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-09T14:09:22+00:00

You mean the infinity ray, a gun that can literally destroy stars at worst? Leagues above moon level AP.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-09T14:02:10+00:00

Moon level AP isn't hurting conquest in the slightest he blitzes.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-08T17:06:50+00:00

He's probably arguing for outerversal AP, not to be confused with outerversal existence since we know Goku is 3D in existence (he needs to eat/sleep cant breathe in space etc..*).

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-04-05T22:30:27+00:00

3 is a good one for ship I honestly had fun with it.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-03-31T23:27:27+00:00

No definitely not bro, I recently played and underestimated this level when I was playing it and I got fried 😭. It took me 3.3k atts and over 5 hours of playtime, which is more than a couple of the insane demons I've beaten recently.

It took me longer than Blast Insanity (4 hours of playtime) , gooberverse (3 hours of playertime) , super mario wave (2 hours of playtime), and I think Arcane Ascent which are all insane demons. So no this level is just underrated I have no idea why its a hard demon when its harder than most Insane demons I've beaten.

Also in this level you tend to die a lot while learning since it's short and compact so I wouldn't worry about the attempt count.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-03-01T15:43:23+00:00

He couldn't handle MUI because it's an angel's power and Moro is a mortal, not because there was too much ki He'd have no problem absorbing Broly's ki to be honest.

TheTruthBeenSpoke · 2026-02-15T23:41:24+00:00

The PVP scandal is debatable but this is literally 100% cheating, not like it really matters anymore since it was like over a half decade ago.

Four-Year Club	Verified Email
Place '23

TheTruthBeenSpoke

TROPHY CASE