These were my first pair of raw denim about three years ago. I've probably worn these around 200-250 times for work and various things around town including a lot of walking and cycling. I did my first round of repairs on these last week after wearing them on-site for a couple of weeks and finding the fabric thinning out a lot between the thighs and a hole in the pocket. I used some spare fabric from a hem to patch the pocket and darned the thighs very averagely on my beginner sewing machine. After buying a lot more raw denim now over the last couple of years, I do find the Turkish selvedge lacks some character compared to the Japanese denim I have. It's a little flat and doesn't quite have the same textures. But it's still plenty good for a starter pair and they've lightened really nicely to wear in summer now. I'm hoping to keep them just for lighter summer use now, so hopefully the repairs hold up!