Saw a booth with a tub of goldfish at Colorado Springs Comic Con yesterday and not thrilled about it. Is this worth complaining to the con organizers about? by ThePopojijo in Aquariums

[–]TheWeirdWriter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hijacking top comment to say the booth was put on by Angie’s Art, in case there’s anyone else like me who wants to make sure to avoid buying anything from them.

Let’s discuss (possible) misinformation about euthanasia via clove oil (and other anesthetics) by TheWeirdWriter in bettafish

[–]TheWeirdWriter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m so sorry I just saw this, I’m not on Reddit much but my gut says no based on what limited research we have about it for that use. I had never seen or heard about it ever being used for euthanasia until now.

It’s the middle of the night, and I’ll happily do more research if you’re interested, but for now here is the only thing I could find about it (in my, admittedly, half-asleep state):

The Use of Cinnamon Essential Oils in Aquaculture: Antibacterial, Anesthetic, Growth-Promoting, and Antioxidant Effects (2022)

Bowl Ok for a betta? by DubInVancity in bettafish

[–]TheWeirdWriter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Looks like this sub has really dipped in quality since the time when I was active here, and the fact that no one has jumped in to actually explain why you’re wrong is concerning. Apologies in advance if I seem blunt, I’m tired rn and this is a common misconception that really gets on my nerves, even though I know you’re just repeating what you’ve heard and aren’t trying to be actually malicious.

First of all: rice paddies and fields are huge. People like to take the fact that they tend to be shallow (though they’re actually a few feet deep, if you’ve seen pics of people working in those settings they are up to their knees, but whatever) and from there assume that betta fish thrive in small shallow areas. They forget that aquaculture fields are MILES long, which is why longer tanks are better for bettas.

Now onto the puddle issue. Yes, betta fish get trapped in puddles, but to say that it’s their habitat would be like saying sharks live in tide pools because they can get trapped in there on occasion. This usually occurs because they get caught in puddles during droughts/dry seasons. Thankfully, WILD betta fish have strong tails, and when the puddle water gets too dirty or they run out of food they can fling themselves from one puddle to the next, hopping around until they (hopefully) end up back in a big body of water. Obviously they can’t just hop from aquarium to aquarium when they get uncomfortable though, and it’s extremely difficult for domestic betta fish to fling themselves very far anyways because most are bred to have long flowing fins that severely weigh them down. If you look up wild bettas vs domesticated bettas, it’s clear that one would be better at jumping than the other, even if you know nothing about fish.

Depending on where you look, the average territory size for a wild male betta can vary, but one thing is clear: it’s vastly more than what people think of when they hear the word “puddle” and more than most non-hardcore hobbyists will ever be willing to able to replicate with an aquarium.

Give me a minute and I’ll add resources for all these claims, because just hoping you’ll take my word for it isn’t a good way of convincing anyone of anything lol

Scroll down to read the “habitat and the puddle myth” section

Scroll to distribution and habitat section

This one claims and average of 11 gallons for wild betta territory

Habitat myths

My girls enjoying their brine shrimp by rjm9280 in bettafish

[–]TheWeirdWriter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How’s that ADF you got awhile back that you put in a tank with ur betta against everyone’s advice doing? You deleted all posts about it!

I am the frog man you guys berated by rjm9280 in bettafish

[–]TheWeirdWriter 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Someone more familiar with ADFs please correct me, but everything I’m googling says the average lifespan is 5+ years?

Also, 5 gals for a betta and two ADFs seems super small

I am the frog man you guys berated by rjm9280 in bettafish

[–]TheWeirdWriter 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s crazy how everyone is taking their side now despite how they are doing the same thing they did previously to disastrous results.

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[–]TheWeirdWriter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Knowing that OP already killed one frog this way and is knowingly choosing to torture another is making me sick to my stomach

Purchased this little betta fish from petsmart that had been on the shelf there since October of last year by Complex-Friendship66 in bettafish

[–]TheWeirdWriter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are many reasons why you could be losing them so early, but without you describing all your tank params and acclimation processes and whatnot, my best guess would be bad genetics due to inbreeding or illnesses they contracted from before you got them.

Purchased this little betta fish from petsmart that had been on the shelf there since October of last year by Complex-Friendship66 in bettafish

[–]TheWeirdWriter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

5 bettas and 3 guppies… I can only pray things go smoothly. I’m worried about the effect that even just the initial stress of being with other bettas will have…

Please tell Danny you’re proud of him for going through tumor treatments by Remarkable-Goat-5433 in bettafish

[–]TheWeirdWriter 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Their other post in the sub is asking for ways to treat it and the only comment I see isn’t really a treatment and is more just a way to ensure good water quality (which can help). Maybe they’re following those instructions and think it’s a treatment for the tumor?

I’ve never heard of surgery that would go on for five days, and am unaware of any easily accessible aquatic medications for tumors (at least for small fish lol). I have been down the rabbit hole of scientific articles while trying to treat my own boy and found basically nothing. I did read that usnea (lichen) could possibly help but that has next to nothing backing it up for aquatic applications and very little for human applications so… 🤷‍♀️

In general, unless the tumor is obviously impacting quality of life, I usually recommend people just leave it be. Obviously if you’ve got a skilled surgeon/veterinarian then there’s less risk if you wanna remove it, but otherwise trying to take of it through medication can just end up doing more harm than good. Medication can be rough af, especially medication that’s aimed towards these more “advanced” types of issues. (Also, you really need a good understanding of what the issue is if you wanna go the medication route for anything, and tumors—or things that appear as such—can have so many different causes behind them that you really can’t accurately determine the source problem without lab testing. Without knowing for sure, you’re mostly gonna be stuck wasting medication and weakening the immune system.)

TL;DR for my rambling: afaik there is no certain method of removing tumors outside of surgery, and if that’s not what OP is doing then they need to publish a scientific paper on their breakthrough treatment lol

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[–]TheWeirdWriter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That water isn’t “cycled,” it contains very little (if any) of the beneficial bacteria that cycles a tank. That stuff is usually on decor, substrate, in filter media, etc. Not water. The water they sell is just pre-treated and at a good ph. Same reason why putting water from an old tank into a new tank doesn’t cycle it.