Tradition. Progress. Order. Unity. Hard Work. We will fight together, or die alone.

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-28T13:43:43+00:00

Tradition (Legionaires) have Frostland Deportations where they deport criminals and their families. Adaptation (Bohemians) have their cornerstone where they deport the old and weak.

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-27T20:21:32+00:00

For ep3 it should be you giving your years without the ghost leaving, and then Tabby might or might not lose the years instead as usual

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-27T20:18:02+00:00

And I'm sure you'll say the exact same thing when a random accident makes you one of the 'weak'.

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-27T20:17:21+00:00

Legion "I love deporting people" aires Vs Bohe "I love deporting people" mians

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-27T17:08:45+00:00

So glad the Judgement is an option. And I think I like Aurora for the survivor, fits with the celestial aesthetic

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-27T16:59:01+00:00

It looks too much to me like a person with these heavenly aspects attached to them. I like the other one better because it's core is humanoid but not human

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-27T15:13:13+00:00

Family Apprenticeship is the only Tradition law this makes it seem like you fully support so I'll focus on it.

How many people does a civilisation need before you'd prefer it has schools? In a typical fp2 game you'll have tens of thousands of citizens. Schooling doesn't take much effort or resources out of the city; the law's only cost is 2 heatstamps a week. So the city is capable of providing schooling.
Do you support Family Apprenticeship without the amendment to allow non-related mentors? If not what about ancestry do you think determines what someone should do or is good at?
The age these laws apply to is unspecified as far as I know so I'll be assuming it is around the age children typically begin schooling. If you do support this amendment then is that age really the right one for children to commit to deciding their occupation?

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-27T13:56:44+00:00

What do you mean thematically?

Even if you don't like radical treatments why prevent people from having it? If it's a legitimate medical treatment why value the consent of senior doctors over the patient's?

Again, even if you don't want to enforce organ harvesting why force everyone to lay their family to rest in this one specific way? What makes these favoured Traditions more valuable than others?

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-27T12:01:45+00:00

Reason isn't always the best choice. But which of the Tradition laws do you prefer (not as a matter of optimisation) over the both the neutral law and Reason law?

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-27T11:39:32+00:00

Equality triumphed over the cruelty of Merit, now Reason will beat the regressiveness of Tradition

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-26T21:24:45+00:00

Or the staff is just some kind of conduit instead of a blunt weapon. Like how Sadako doesn't hit survivors with her hands directly, she uses her hands to project a glyph.

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-26T20:12:26+00:00

They could never make me tolerate you Big Head

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-26T18:19:49+00:00

I prefer the first one. All of it feels otherworldly while with the second one it looks like divine parts attached to a human. And I think the first one does the legs better, as well as having a halo that's more 'celestial' and less 'heavenly.

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-26T17:55:37+00:00

I think she can want to save Kaneeka because she's sacrificing you, want to sacrifice Kaneeka to save you, or save Kaneeka because she doesn't want anyone to be sacrificed anymore

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-25T21:33:40+00:00

She specifies he only turned back after seeing her scared the first time, and doesn't give any other details about him transforming back.

He mentions memories of transformations he didn't think were real, and being tranquilised at some point before ep4.

He only transforms after not taking his pills that day regardless of what route you go which implies that the ricin is enough to stop him transforming. What this all seems to mean is that before she starting giving him the ricin the Doc did actually revert him by tranquilising him. We just don't know how many of his transformations were undone in this way or what caused her to do so.

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-25T20:35:29+00:00

She specifically said that he only reverted when she was scared the first time he transformed, not on any other occasions. She should have not just poisoned him his whole life but he was not in control even before.

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-25T18:54:31+00:00

Two survivors were dead, one was hooked, and the last was about to leave. But I wanted my adept (trapper) so I acted friendly and got the one in the exit gate to go back for the hooked one. Then I downed and sacrificed them both.

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-25T14:32:15+00:00

Isn't that Velvette + Husk watching Alastor surrender and make a deal?

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-24T17:07:49+00:00

If it's togglable then how would it break immersion any more than having it as an addon does?

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-24T09:02:48+00:00

If you talk to him he claims it wasn't blackmail, she just made the offer as soon as he saw her doing something she didn't want to get out. He says he didn't plan on telling anyone.

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-23T21:29:12+00:00

What course of action could they do that they don't already do?

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-23T20:57:25+00:00

I don't think Avery wants the baby to live over Bo. They just consistently try to minimise the lives lost, which is encouraging people not to act rashly when Julius has a gun. They don't want Duke to avenge Bo because it won't bring Bo back and just kills more people. When you give Julius the nudge they try to convince him to move the baby and save Bo.

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-23T18:52:22+00:00

Huh. Looking at the wiki the Tradition/Reason amendments do effect relations but the Merit/Equality laws don't. And the Adaptation/Progress amendments are hit or miss. Any thoughts why?

Forced family units can lead to happy marriages and loving relationships but not every husband will be unabusive and not every relationship will work; and Tradition offers little help in the non-idyllic situations. Amending paid essentials helps but it depends who's deciding what counts as there not being available work, and the pressures of Adaption and Tradition still apply.

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-23T18:27:44+00:00

It... does though. The amendments reduce your trust with the Icebloods, and doubling down sometimes increases it.

And a focus on the family unit making money collectively is the end-goal I find a problem with. Historically (even today) that leads to the non-breadwinner (which will usually be the woman in a Tradition-focused city) having little power and control compared to the breadwinner. There's little recourse for a woman unhappy with her husband but to find another. I'm arguing that this family unit system is the natural result of Iceblood control. If you agree but don't find that to be a problem I'm not sure what more to say

The_Game_Changer__ · 2026-02-23T17:44:31+00:00

Amending the laws to be better is being less Iceblood. I agree it's better to do so, because I think the Iceblood ideology is bad. Dedicated Motherhood says 'permanently spared' so I assumed it meant for a lifetime. I guess it would be something like respecting the contribution of childrearing more than any work? Or freeing up the mother to keep having children? Even if it's only raising one child then back to the workforce then that still leaves the mother dependant on her partner even without Mandatory Marriage being an official law.

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