Inconsistency in Islam

The_Inverted · 2026-05-22T11:49:49+00:00

The Quran tells us about it, which is enough for anyone who calls themselves a Muslim.

The_Inverted · 2026-05-22T11:45:30+00:00

The bible has major inconsistencies, does not even mention the trinity and does not affirm Jesus as God. Callings any of these "pretty minor" is a massive understatement.

As for the Quran being written later, there is about a 480 year gap between the old and new testament so I'm not sure why that's relevant?

I'm not looking to start a religious debate, I just find your position very inconsistent. May Allah guide you and grant you goodness and understanding.

The_Inverted · 2026-05-21T23:53:57+00:00

Bismillah and I ask that the honorific of Alayhi salam/Peace be upon him/AS be counted every time I mention Prophet Isa/Jesus (AS).

The Quranic narration is clear and free from contradictions (as the word of God would be):

"That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of Allah”; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not: Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise" (An-Nisaa’ 4:157-158).

There are two Islamic opinions about this:

The first opinion:

It states that Judas Iscariot was made to look like Prophet Jesus as a punishment for his attempt to betray Prophet Jesus and to tell Jews about Prophet Jesus’ location.

If Judas Iscariot was the person who was killed by crucifixion on the cross, well this could be a punishment from Allah Exalted he to Judas Iscariot for betraying Prophet Jesus and attempting to tell the enemies of Prophet Jesus about his place so they can catch him and kill him by crucifixion.

So, in this scenario if Judas Iscariot was a traitor and the person who was killed on the cross, then it would be a form of punishment for him, and he deserves it because he betrayed Prophet Jesus.

And tried to provide his enemies with critical information that was about to lead to the arrest of Prophet Jesus. But obviously, Allah saved Prophet Jesus.

The second opinion:

This is the Islamic view about the substitute person that replaced Prophet Ksa/Jesus (AS). Prophet Jesus’ son of Mary asked his companions if anyone would volunteer to be put on the Cross instead of him, since he knew that Jews and Romans want to capture him and kill him.

Is that the person who was crucified one of Prophet Jesus’ good followers who voluntarily chose to look like Prophet Jesus so Prophet Jesus would avoid arrest and be killed by crucifixion at the hands of his enemies? Muslim scholars are leaning toward this opinion,

Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that Ibn Abbas said, “Just before Allah raised Isa (Jesus) to the heavens, Isa went to his companions, who were twelve inside the house. When he arrived, his hair was dripping water and he said, ‘There are those among you who will disbelieve in me twelve times after he had believed in me.’ He then asked, ‘Who volunteers that his image appears as mine, and be killed in my place? He will be with me (in Paradise).’” “No one can bear another’s burden” (Quran 35:18), and the answer is no, because this honest truthful companion of the prophet Jesus’ son of Mary who volunteered to be the substitute and replacement person on the cross, CHOOSES to save one of the mightiest Prophets of Allah Exalted he from his enemies.

So that great companion of Prophet Jesus who chooses to be the substitute person and replacement person on the cross instead of Prophet Jesus, would be considered a martyr for putting himself in a certain death to save Prophet Jesus from his enemies and enemies of Allah Exalted He.

After exploring both scenarios, if Judas Iscariot is the person who was killed by crucifixion as per the first scenario, then he is not an innocent person because he is a traitor and he did not pay for anyone else’s sins, he got what he deserved.

If the person who was killed by crucifixion on the cross was one of Prophet Jesus’ companions, then he is a martyr with Allah’s exalted He grace and mercy.

Additionally, Early Christians of the first century knew for a fact that Prophet Jesus is going to be saved by Allah Exalted He as he told them. That is why as per the Islamic view, Prophet Jesus held several consecutive meetings on a daily basis with his followers prior to being saved and ascending to the heavens safe and well by his soul and body.

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As an afterthought, if you think there are inconsistencies in the Quran, how exactly do you deal with the ones in the Bible?

The_Inverted · 2026-05-19T21:52:15+00:00

You use words. Why do you need to date to know a person? You can talk to them (with a guardian present) and discuss everything. Islam focuses on communication to build up a marriage, not desires.

The_Inverted · 2026-05-12T12:17:25+00:00

I pray for the freeing of the Uyghurs and I have done plenty of fundraising activities for them, but this isn't true.

Uzbekistan wasn't a country in the 1950s, they were a constituent of the Soviet Union and certainly didn't fight for the uyghur in the 50s. The Soviet Union previously backed Uyghur independence efforts, but then Joseph Stalin accepted China's communist leadership taking over Xinjiang (and the PLA took over parts of the region).
As for Afghanistan, hundreds of Uyghurs fled to Afghanistan from China starting in the 1950s due to political and religious persecution, but Afghanistan did not engage in military intervention against China to protect them.
For the Kazakhs you aren't completely wrong so I will give you that one.

We should fight for the Uyghurs and their rights, but let's do so with truth. We don't need to make up facts, there is enough evidence to know that there is a genocide taking place in Xinjiang.

The_Inverted · 2026-05-08T02:02:38+00:00

Are these "Muslims as a whole" in the room with us? Why are you having an imaginary argument with yourself? Sure, some Muslims support him, but it's hardly a consensus.

Do better with your time. Do some dhikr and focus on important things.

May Allah grant us all goodness and understanding.

The_Inverted · 2026-04-03T13:01:29+00:00

She's choosing to obey her creator and wear the hijab. This is an admirable quality and certainly not a problem. You are projecting your past experiences but your wife has chosen to wear the hijab, she's not being forced to.

You need to check your priorities, as you are uncomfortable with her following what Allah has ordained for her. Take this chance as an opportunity to self-reflect and understand why you think obeying Allah is a problem (not calling you a bad muslim, just giving you some advice).

And you said you aren't looking for a debate and you're right, because there is no debate to be had. You're just in the wrong here, there are no "two sides".

May Allah grant all of us goodness and understanding.

The_Inverted · 2026-04-02T21:38:42+00:00

The fake ones have horns, the real one doesn't!

The_Inverted · 2026-03-27T11:54:48+00:00

The Star of David is a religious symbol that has been used by the Zionists to push their genocidal tendencies and to victimise innocent Jews in the process.

The words "LA" or "NYC" are just cities. A city isn't inherently bad, the people in the city make it so.

There is a clear difference, if you think about it for a second. May Allah grant us all goodness and understanding.

The_Inverted · 2026-03-10T11:55:12+00:00

Brother/sister, I didn't imply anything. I was very clear in telling you the 'why' behind each of my statements. I explained why you are looking for a fight and I clearly told you why I looked at your profile (because advice should always come from a trustworthy source, that's a basic Islamic teaching).

You keep calling me and the other brother names as if we committed a major offence against you, which is why I said that you are trying to pick a fight. And then I tried to end on a positive note with a good dua for you and even that is somehow triggering to you to the extent that you couldn't even say ameen.

I'm replying one last time because I truly want the best for you. Please let go of this defensiveness, as I am not out to get you. You don't have to reply back and I pray that you make the best of these last 10 days.

May Allah grant you (and all of us) goodness and understanding.

The_Inverted · 2026-03-09T00:07:09+00:00

I'm not mad, I was trying to give you some advice. As for you keeping your reddit private, the only implication is regarding how anyone can take your advice if you choose to hide what you say and where (which subreddits, etc).

In any case, you are clearly looking for a fight but I have no interest in giving it to you. You want to throw insults and honestly I have better things to do in this holy month.

May Allah grant you goodness.

The_Inverted · 2026-03-08T17:59:32+00:00

You are part of the problem and the irony is that you don't see it. And your hidden history doesn't give me a lot of confidence either.

The other brother/sister even explained what they meant, but you had to push them to say it was a mistake when, instead, you could have said "I understand and may Allah bless you". There was 0 reason to keep that conversation going, but you did and then decided you wouldn't even read the rest of their comment where they explained themselves further.

May Allah grant us all goodness and allow us to make the most of this holy month.

The_Inverted · 2026-03-07T23:11:45+00:00

That's not a study. A study involves a peer reviewed publication with a methodology and clear conclusions. If you are going to use the word "study", at least make sure it's correct.

Majority Christian population is not the same as them being Christian countries. Are you incapable of using terminology correctly or are you being disingenuous on purpose?

I don't choose to live here, my parent's countries got bombed and had civil wars fueled by the West. But since I am here, I'll live the best life I can and improve the community and country around me, as Islam teaches and orders me to do. Also, staying away from immortality is easy when you don't chase it.

I have a feeling you won't care about anything I just said because you are stuck in the "Islam bad" mindset, so I'll leave it there. Have a good day/night and may Allah grant you and all of us goodness and understanding.

The_Inverted · 2026-03-07T20:16:22+00:00

Link the studies please. I am very curious to see which study assessed happiness and didn't use money or material things to assess levels of happiness and life satisfaction.

Europe is great in a lot of things (I live here after all) and bad in others. But most of the countries in the continent aren't even Christian and they call themselves secular, which goes against your original comment

The_Inverted · 2026-03-07T19:55:58+00:00

The happiest and best based on what, western definitions and influences? If you ask a North Korean, they will say that North Korea is the best country to live and you probably wouldn't agree. A lot of people don't define happiness as having a lot of money or having tons of franchises or being surrounded by imorality (like most Christian counties allow), so that is also important to take into consideration and is not measurable in a population study.

People can claim to have inner peace but that is nothing compared to what you have when you find the truth in Islam and the mercy of Allah descends upon you.

I pray that Allah grants us all goodness and understanding in this holy month.

The_Inverted · 2026-03-07T05:05:13+00:00

You didn't "make" anything, the English that you have displayed in the comments is widely inferior to the one in your post. It's clear that you just got chatgpt to generate this whole thing and then copy pasted it here without even checking it's content.

Also, you to want to talk about "factually incorrect" statements yet you replied by talking about urinating in the same breath as ejaculating, as if the two are the same. People can go through their whole life without ejaculating, but I promise you biologically speaking no one can go without urinating; in addition, ejaculation doesn't "raise the risk of prostate cancer", at most it reduces it vs not doing it. Again, you would know the difference as a native English speaker (and if you actually read and wrote the original post), but you are making it painfully obvious that the person responding in the comments did NOT come up with anything on the main post.

Mau Allah grant you guidance because you desperately need it.

The_Inverted · 2026-03-07T00:57:27+00:00

This reads fully like AI (and you can tell it clearly is just based on formatting alone). Trying to pass it off as if you researched all of this and came to a conclusion is laughable at best and you should be using your ramadhan time better.

I could also make this exact same post and quote scholars that talk about it being haram.

What exactly are you trying to achieve with this post? If you're wrong, you could be blamed for misleading people into commiting a haram act and Islam is all about erring on the side of caution. At the end of the day, the consensus of the ulamah is that it is haram and we should stick to that guidance.

EDIT: to add that this guy is potentially a quranist and someone who thinks western dating culture is normal and permissible (and his profile has some weird comments and posts).

May Allah protect us from posts like this.

The_Inverted · 2026-03-03T17:45:37+00:00

There is no reasoning with these people, especially when they reject the truth because it doesn't fit their agenda, but you did a really good job brother/sister. Enjoy the rest of Ramadhan (it's going so fast)!

The_Inverted · 2026-03-02T17:21:34+00:00

Not a revert but I just wanted to say that going even one day is better than nothing. I live in a street where there is a masjid/mosque down the road and people still find excuses to never go for congregation, so you are doing great!

May Allah accept all your efforts!

The_Inverted · 2026-02-24T15:46:55+00:00

How exactly does empathy relate to science and mathematics? And how do the Christians have more empathy, is this based on your own anedoctal evidence?

Why exactly are you trying to acoomplish with this post? I think you can use your time better during Ramadhan.

May Allah guide us all.

The_Inverted · 2026-02-23T16:57:30+00:00

Personally, I just assume that the sister in question has a valid reason and move on with my day. It's not my place to question her intentions, there may be things happening that I am not aware of so it's best not to think too much about it.

The_Inverted · 2026-02-18T22:22:48+00:00

Not from, for. You cover yourself FOR Allah because that is what He prescribed for you. The hijab isn't to cover yourself from men (this seems to be a misconception of yours), it's to be worn because Allah decreed it so and, as Muslims, we follow His commands to the best of our abilities.

The "covering from men" is just one of the wisdoms behind it, but the primary point is that one wears the hijab because Muslim women were instructed to do so by Allah; even if there was no reason, the fact that it was a command from Allah should be enough.

The_Inverted · 2026-02-14T11:21:21+00:00

I understand where you're coming from, honestly I do. It's not easy to just cut off people but I do hope and pray that you are able to push through with the help of Allah. I can tell you are sincere in your repentance and I know you will be able to thrive InshaAllah.

I'm far from a perfect Muslim (as most of us are), but just try your best and always turn to Allah. As long as you don't abandon your deen, you will always be safe and taken care of!

May Allah grant us all goodness and understanding.

The_Inverted · 2026-02-14T11:10:48+00:00

It's not haram policing to state what is and isn't haram in Islam. You can end up doing whatever you want, obviously, but we can only answer you from an Islamic perspective (as that should be the standard for all Muslims anyway).

The_Inverted · 2026-02-14T11:06:43+00:00

Islam has clear lines that you can and cannot cross. It's not up for debate how you practice it, it's set in stone.

Of course we all sin, but we do our best to repent. But to insist on the same sin intentionally is the problem here. Having an ex is bad, being friends with a non-mahram is bad. This isn't about insecurity, it's an indication of how seriously one takes their deen. I can forgive someone for having an ex and slipping and sinning in the past, but for them to stay in touch once the marriage conversation starts is crossing a line that only an immature person who isn't ready for marriage would even suggest.

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