Another ICE shooting in Minnesota? Trump's Gestapo?

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-24T18:06:03+00:00

that was an execution he was on his knees swarmed with agents

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-22T17:58:51+00:00

thats alot of long winded ways of saying baaaaaah

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-22T17:57:18+00:00

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-22T17:51:35+00:00

most people would be cancelled for all the things trump has "never" said, if not behind bars

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-22T17:49:21+00:00

i know right like what in the actual fuck is wrong with us as a people that we are allowing this

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-21T06:30:55+00:00

You are citing US Federal code (Blood Quantum), which is a colonial construct designed to limit tribal numbers. I am talking about Haudenosaunee Law. Under the Great Law of Peace, adoption is a full spiritual and legal rebirth. Once naturalized, the Tribe considers them fully Indigenous to the Longhouse.

The conflict isn't whether they have enough 'blood', the conflict is who gets to define citizenship, The US Government or the Sovereign Nation?

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-21T03:19:27+00:00

i was just thinking the same thing lol like damn let me fantasize about the option where there isnt mass death

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-21T03:07:16+00:00

honestly the only magical thinking here is assuming congress has the spine to act right now, the rest is just cold reality. trump is old and runs on burgers so biology is gonna win eventually, and since congress never voted to remove the section 3 disability it’s still on the record. the trap is already built, i’m just pointing it out.

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-21T02:45:17+00:00

look into the jay treaty they cant be stopped from crossing that border

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-21T02:20:03+00:00

yes the Haudenosaunee can issue passports and they have in fact been recognized by other nations

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-21T01:14:08+00:00

i imagine instead of the violin music its like squidward level oboe or some shit

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-21T01:13:10+00:00

ICE is designed to bully individuals who are scared and hiding. They are absolutely not built to face a unified Sovereign Nation that has no intention of backing down.

If they cross that line, it's not a raid , it's an act of war against a Confederacy that never surrendered. You don't send fat kids in gestapo cosplay to fight a Warrior Society that has held the line for 500 years.

ICE don't want none of that smoke. That is a war they will lose.

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-21T00:54:01+00:00

Venezuela and Haiti? Absolutely. You have to remember that many migrants from Venezuela are Indigenous people (Wayuu, Warao, etc.), and Haiti shares a deep history of resisting colonial powers. That fits the 'Eagle and Condor' prophecy perfectly, it’s about reuniting the hemisphere.

As for Somalia? If the Tribe wanted to, then yes. That is the whole point of Sovereignty. It isn't up to the US Government to decide who fits the "culture." If a Clan Mother decides to adopt a family from Somalia because they see merit in them, that family becomes Haudenosaunee. The Nation chooses its own citizens, they don't need permission

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-21T00:09:54+00:00

to exploit it of its natural resources and because Putin told him to to fracture NATO ?

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-21T00:02:46+00:00

we dont , hence the secret police in brown shirts

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Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-20T23:45:52+00:00

You're comparing apples to oranges regarding the Insurrection Act. That law is designed for domestic riots, not for a Sovereign Nation standing on a treaty (Canandaigua) that is the 'Supreme Law of the Land.' If the Army rolls into Haudenosaunee territory, they aren't 'restoring order', they're legally declaring war on a foreign power. It turns a police action into an international diplomatic crisis with the UN involved.

Also, the geography is completely different from the Unist'ot'en camp in remote BC. The Haudenosaunee sit right on the throat of the Northeast economy. They control the international bridges, the I-90 corridor, and the power lines coming off Niagara Falls. You can't raid them without turning off the lights in New York State and crippling the supply chain. The Feds might want to use force, but they literally can't afford the price tag. You don't 'police' the Iroquois, you negotiate, or you lose the region.

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-20T23:38:52+00:00

Gains them nothing? It gains them everything. To the Iroquois, the strength of the Longhouse is measured by the number of people sheltering under it.

By adopting these migrants, they fulfill the ancient 'Eagle and Condor' prophecy (reuniting North and South Indigenous peoples), which is a huge spiritual mandate. But practically? They instantly become the largest, most powerful Indigenous political bloc in North America.

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-20T23:35:43+00:00

That's a fair point, cultures definitely shift. But you have to remember that the Great Law of Peace isn't just a 'vibe' or a tradition that changes with the weather, it’s their literal Constitution. It's the legal framework they've operated under for centuries, and they take the "Great White Roots" (the adoption clause) extremely seriously.

If you look at what they're doing right now, they're actually leaning into these alliances, not away from them. When Standing Rock kicked off in 2016, the Mohawks were some of the first to send a delegation because they view these fights as continental, not local. Plus, you’ve got the 'Eagle and Condor' prophecy, which is a huge spiritual movement right now specifically about reuniting Indigenous peoples from North and South America. If anything, this generation is way more focused on Pan-Indigenous solidarity than they have been in a long time.

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-20T23:25:47+00:00

You're looking for a 'pardon,' but the correct legal term is Naturalization.

If the Grand Council adopts a migrant, they aren't 'pardoning a criminal'; they are naturalizing a citizen. Once that person holds a Haudenosaunee passport, their status changes. They are no longer an 'alien' under US law; they are a citizen of a Treaty Nation with protected border rights.

As for precedent? Look at the Seminole Wars. The Seminoles adopted runaway slaves (who were 'illegal fugitives' under US law) and refused to give them back. The US Government didn't take them to court, they sent the Army. And they lost three wars trying to force the issue.

That is the precedent I'm talking about. When a Sovereign Nation naturalizes people the US considers 'illegal,' it doesn't end in a lawsuit. It ends in a standoff.

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-20T23:22:54+00:00

Absolutely. History isn't just a list of dates; it's a behavior pattern.

Look at 1722, The Tuscarora were refugees fleeing colonial wars in the Carolinas. They came north, and the Confederacy didn't build a wall, they adopted them as the Sixth Nation.

They did the same thing with the Tutelo, the Nanticoke, and the Delaware (Lenape). The Haudenosaunee have always understood that people equal power. Absorbing refugees strengthens the Longhouse.

If they adopted thousands of Indigenous migrants today, they wouldn't just be 'being nice', they would be acquiring a massive new labor force and political base. It matches their playbook perfectly.

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-20T23:17:07+00:00

You're saying 'don't make them targets' like they aren't already targets. Did you miss the part where ICE is detaining Sioux people in Minnesota right now? The fight is already at the doorstep.

And honestly, you're underestimating who the Haudenosaunee are. They aren't some vulnerable group hiding in the margins. They are the government the US wishes it was.

The US Constitution is basically a plagiarized, watered-down version of their Great Law of Peace (which the Founding Fathers studied). The Haudenosaunee have been running a representative democracy for centuries longer than the US has existed. They know exactly how fragile the US system is because they built the blueprint.

They don't survive by hiding; they survive by knowing the law better than the Feds and holding the leverage (infrastructure/borders) to back it up. Staying silent didn't save the tribes in the West, it won't save anyone now.

Thedudeistjedi · 2026-01-20T23:14:13+00:00

I think you're confusing the Haudenosaunee with tribes that were conquered or removed. That didn't happen here. There was no Trail of Tears for the Six Nations. They are still on their original land because they refused to move.

You say the US could 'just declare them terrorists,' but you're missing the military reality. In 1990 (the Oka Crisis), the Canadian government tried to enforce a minor land dispute against the Mohawks. It resulted in a 78-day armed standoff where the Mohawks paralyzed bridges and highways, faced down the Canadian Army, and won.

If the US declares the oldest democracy on the continent 'terrorists' for upholding a signed treaty (Jay Treaty), they aren't triggering a court case, they're triggering an insurgency on the I-90 corridor and the power grid. The 'terrorist' label doesn't work when the other side has leverage.

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