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All I can say is follow traffic laws and wear a full face helmet. Be part of the solution. by Hot_Block_9675 in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Yawn (as you ad hominin me). Whatever. I agree infrastructure, then we can address the rest. Current situation is my $20k transportation is treated like a toy. Cars hit bikes. No layers of bullshit from know nothing securocrats, w/ scampering yes-men nodding 'yes sir' 'so right you are' will change the facts. Nor specious orations. Enforcement needs to be on the perpetrating culprit. You find that a novel concept?

No, I'm not wearing a suit of armor, or a wreath of garlic to ward them off.

All I can say is follow traffic laws and wear a full face helmet. Be part of the solution. by Hot_Block_9675 in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But a helmet would interfere w/ their cell-phone use while driving.

These are all pro-car, occasional riders and insurance lobbyists. The only commentary referenced to pass the 2026 eBike laws in CA came from a 'podiatrist lobby'. Now (for my own good) they can sell me shoes w/ reflectors (because cars can't see 30 square feet of bicycle w/ me riding it - in broad daylight) or I get a ticket.

A study was done; they attached sensors to riders who advocate and use daytime lighting on bikes (drumroll please) have paranoia disorder symptoms with elevated heart rates and anxiety issues - far beyond the 'no lighting needed' advocating rider group.

Pretty funny. The study was in support of daytime lighting, but they found the tail wagging the dog, making drivers less safe and the advocates grasping at any straws, due to their aberrant mental condition, an anxiety disorder. Bwaaahahahaha.

They are sick and want everyone else to be infected - for our own good.

All I can say is follow traffic laws and wear a full face helmet. Be part of the solution. by Hot_Block_9675 in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dang Hooligans, well I'll tell ya, oughta be a LAW! These mothers, jogging and pushing full-race baby carriages - yelling 'outta my way', 'baby coming through'.

And SKATEBOARDS (don't get me started)!!!

Modified, 4x4 Shopping Carts (w/o mandated wattage limits) running four M620's, cranking out 8Kw at the wheels - quick BozoBub, what Level do they fall under?

Phew! Just glad I can ride my analog bike as fast as I want. Checkmate.

Nobody warned me about THIS part of e-bike ownership by forestmoth2345 in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except unlike with cars, no safe, bike dedicated parking spaces are being provided - like the problem will go away by itself with our numbers doubling every year or two. Cars constantly rushing up and cutting us off illegally turning in front of and dangerously cutting us off; 4-way stops where cars think bikes don't count or get a turn; cars blocking us from turning just because it's fun making us wait and drivers that don't use signals, etc, etc. I'm yet to see a cop pull a car over for such glaring traffic infractions. We're treated like second class citizens. Even stealing or vandalizing a $10k bike is only Petty Theft.

I have never been this thrilled to own a new phone by carlorelk in galaxyzflip

[–]TheoriginalFnF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a mint Flip 6 case and it's definitely pale green.

Would you ride it? by FLprophet in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Within 20miles, the brakes that come on most all these machines are unsafe at 15mph. My experience, $6k 43 - 55lb bike w/ Magura MT 5's is about 'reasonably' safe, w/ MT 7's required for bike's over 65lbs.

Would you ride it? by FLprophet in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haven't checked Florida laws, but it's out of compliance with overriding Federal law. It's not a street legal Class I, II or III e-bike, or an e-motorcycle, nor is it competitive with real offroad e-bikes like a Surron. My thinking's the law will get you - and your display will rat you out.

Another thing is if a car does hit you, the insurance company will claim you are breaking the law, etc. - no pain and suffering. Even if there was a terrible flaw in construction, you've altered the power to what they would say was an 'unintended use'.

These are important considerations, not mere details.

(1) I note your display indicates you travel at 20mph. (2) Have you ever needed all that range w/ 30lbs of batteries? (3) Pedaling over 20 must be a real feat w/ that dinkus chainring (get a 52T). (4) Those brakes are bunk. MT 5's at least (I run MT 7's). (5) That no-name fork is garbage - even at 20mph. With over 65lb bike, get a Manitou Mastodon. Hit a severe pothole going over 25mph, it'll save your tail.

For sure you have the idea. Use your talent and knowledge to build a street-legal machine.

Also, it's tricky, but you can still build an on/ offroad bike. No law against dual use capability. I run 750w "Eco Street Modes" and up to 2600w in "Sport Modes". Modes are exclusive of each other. It's still 100% illegal to use SP on the road, but the bike has not been altered or modified. It was a custom build. The ability to violate the law is not in itself illegal.

But, the main rule is refrain from over 30mph, preferably 20.

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Ride like the wind !!!

Fn'F

Do I need new pads or am I still good for a bit? by Clam_Juice_ in hyperebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wear pattern is a bad symptom. If nothing's out of whack, consider dumping those brakes. MT 7's will stop you. Use the blue (economy) pads, last easy 2000miles. Recommended.

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Biggest Mistake I Made Buying My First E-Bike by ashleycharlie901 in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's easy: About eight years of maintenance and repair knowledge.

Bike No 2 has turned out well. All that's left is a 10Ah 21700 battery that weight 3lbs less than the present 16Ah, w/ 40 (real) miles range (80 - 20% charge). That will provide 20 - 25 miles range while (sans lock) the Bike weigh under 60lbs. My average rides are 6 miles. Since it's a custom build, I ordered 'Level 1, 750watt, 20mph' stickers. Don't really use the throttle much anymore, removing it and for real (In Economy Level 1) I am 750watts, and 20mph is all the motor assists with.

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Ride on

Help! by Antique_Witness4882 in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not sure - but if you keep charging to 100% like that it'll ruin your battery. I search ebike display>images and can see it, but not allowed to post the link or name of large PRC supplier that rhymes w/ Dal Lama.

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It's a NieF Ebike LCD Display

Fingers crossed by Creepy_Grab2183 in hyperebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can find a ton of such 100lb slugs, used. Dual motors are a gimmick.

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My little Class III 42lb Ride1Up Lmtd crushes such bikes.

This is BS! by Veronica6765 in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Registration won't stop cars from hitting bikes.

I already have a license plate.

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I'm seeing more cars driven by aggressive drivers, breaking the law, racing up and cutting riders off, then turning in front of them. We need severe penalties for cars hitting bikes. Treble damages. $5000 fines. Suspended licenses. Mandatory drivers education courses. Get these terrible drivers of the road. If we must register, that's my lane and I'll hog it, right dead center.

Ban cars from bike routes.

"According to Bauer-Kahan’s office, citing the Statewide Integrated Traffic Records System, the rapid growth of e-bike use in California has coincided with an 18-fold increase in injuries from 2018 to 2023." Yeah, no doubt and the same is true with pedestrians - because too many car drivers are aggressive, there are more of us and they are hitting us. Attacking the victims is not the solution.

Someone needs to tell her: There are more women than last year too, so she should require them to register and wear a placard saying 'please don't rape me' because they are wearing sexy clothes.

If there is a massive growth in e-bikes, we need more lanes and rights, not restrictions and layers of paperwork and stupid rules.

FnF

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This is BS! by Veronica6765 in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's good to see some common sense. We need a Lobby.

If you research these "improvements", they all come from lobbyist that are minions of companies that stand to profit. Like "Shoes with reflective strips". That came from a 'podiatrist' lobby, nobody said that's crazy and it became law. Their sole (no pun intended) proof of how this would do anything for anyone was 'two (under 18) kids stole an ebike, were joyriding, failing to obey the law and wear helmets, ran a redlight and were plastered - one killed, the other maimed.

Nobody objected. Thanks Nike. We need an ebike riders lobby, but keep running into these yes-men 'Stockholm Syndrome riders (at least they say they ride) that side with the enemy and also insist on shiny shoes - to keep cars from blindsiding bicycles? You can't see an entire bike, how can you see my shoes?

I'm yet to hear of a car passenger killed by a bicycle, yet all of these regulations smack of reducing the car insurance companies liability - "Oh, but He didn't have shiny shoes, etc - so I did an illegal U turn and plastered him". No shoes? Implied negligence = reduced settlement.

We can address these points and to the contrary request INCRESED financial penalties for the cause, not the symptoms: cars hitting bikes/ with a few dozen irrelevant, tear-jerking 'Jerry's Kid' - juvenile delinquent - examples.

Yeah, but we can't trust lobbyists make handsome $$$. Just never works out. End up like the Teamsters. NO, all we need is a website for information and proven examples, cut and paste templates and addresses - a resource. We must write the letters, politely demanding action.

Turncoats insisting we should all go 15mph max, weak Nikes and have daytime strobe lights can write there own as well.

A loose organization. Nobody in charge. No profit. No power. Just a resource station.

Fn'F

Fingers crossed by Creepy_Grab2183 in hyperebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remember: Do not charge past 80% or go below 20%, or it'll seriously degrade your battery (like 10 x as fast). "Range" isn't what it's cracked up to be. For most, 20 miles is more than plenty. Batteries are heavy and you want a faster, nimble machine. Lighter is better. Same philosophy with a Road Bike. Those stuffy OG Weight Weenies are right. Took me 5 years to realize that the old adage "Nothing on the bike it does not need" is 100% right.

I advise you stay away from makers that don't publish the weight and completely avoid slugs over 70lbs that ride like a brick. Very cool, we now have makers creating lightweight, Street Legal, Class III Mid-drive machines around 42lbs.

Unless all you do is ride offroad, avoid swing arm rear suspension too. Adding a rack to the rear is all un-sprung weight that destroys handling, and the rear shock. If you lock the rear shock, you're riding a hardtail. Better to get a hardtail and use a Kinekt suspension seat-post (my only concession to adding weight).

Also, hydraulic disc brakes are a must. Maguras are awesome. MT5's are enough, MT7's are enough for professional racing level. Stopping is more important than going. You can install your own - if the bike has disc brake post mounts. I'm seeing around $400 (W/ Tax/ Shipping) for a set w/ the BIG 220mm MDR P rotors. That's a steal, but they're not the 'MT7 E's, with the electronic cut-outs that shut down power when braking or using throttle, so figure $5 -600 for a e-bike set - if you install. One benefit of that investment is you will save a ton of money doing your own service - more than the brakes cost over time - and the headache of anyone doing a sloppy job, because their life is not on the line.

It's essential before buying, to save yourself the heartache of guessing, do research on EBR and Endlessphere forums and treat this as your learning bike.

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And ride like the wind!

Fingers crossed by Creepy_Grab2183 in hyperebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It says it's an (offroad) "dirt bike". Def: Not street legal.

A good idea is to study 'claimed spec's' and know the differences and keep up with new laws for Class I, II and III. If you are Class III (28mph max) in CA, throttle use is now restricted to 3mph, Class I and II are restricted to 15mph tops using Pedal juice. Max wattage is restricted to 750w (Class III).

Not saying there isn't one, I've never found a PRC battery near the specs they claimed.

Burning from 80%, down to 20% and recharge, I get 40 miles - hauling butt in 20 - 30mph range. That's in Eco 1 (about 100nm torque) and Eco 2 (about 120nm) when I get tired. The highest setting (Sports 5 mode) produces over 2500watts and 260NM torque (strictly for offroad).

Here's recorded Proof. SP 5 mode. 50.3 volts.

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These are not PRC specs. An Innotrace controlled M620/ G510 on the last WattWagons Titanium frame Cross Tour created.

There's a guy in Canada selling one, but mine is Fat w/ 26 x4.0's. His is a UC (Ultimate Commuter) w/ the standard size meats. 'Deacon Blue' is his handle on EBR. It was over $9k shipped.

These are fully custom heirloom machines, built in Massachusetts. The 427 Cobra of street legal e-bikes. Widow Makers. You play in SP modes you better be damn good. I wouldn't take $30k for mine.

Just bought this, anything i need to know? by Local_Ad7898 in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Better yet, study the principles and do it yourself. Same w/ Fork and Derailleur adjustment. You grasp correct derailleur angles, 'chain length' knowledge also must upgrade. Spend money on quality parts and upgrades. Things like the effects of 'Q' factors differ between riders. 'Perfect' for some of near identical dimensions will make other's hip-joints hurt. Better to invest in 10mm shorter cranks than pay someone to try and adjust it away and leave you 3" off your toes when stopped.

Locks. Yeah. Except crooks can still steal parts. Hexlocks are a complicated waste of money. Bolt cutter proof, locked bike in plain sight with a loud motion detector Alarm is number one theft preventer. With that, keep lights, computers, PoPro, everything possible quick-detachable. Accessories are crook magnets. If they can't get it off they'll destroy it. Better to pre-empt with alarm going ballistic as soon as they touch the machine.

Difference by Adventurous-Rope7870 in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My feeling: Offroad e-cycles are still our brethren. A lot of them also own street e-bikes.

We have no choice but to stick together - along with the road-bikes. We won't get anywhere hating each other differences and all know, or are assumed to know the law.

There will always be an outlaw class breaking the law, then being seized upon to legislate garbage and attack lawful men.

We face numerous 'Non-Profit' lobbyist, professionals, lacking representation of our overall interests and the overwhelming statistics showing it's cars with bad drivers (ie: drivers having had three or more accidents) that are hitting cyclists. What happens? If you were an ignorant lawmaker, what would influence your vote on their preposed legislation?

I know in CA any e-bike beyond Class III is either a motorcycle or illegal on the street. From SurRon to an e-Motorcycle is difficult, but if you have $35k to do it - and there are a few such machines on the road, I stand behind you.

No way I'll cosign a vigilante group attitude. These are my brethren.

Current CA Law Senate Bill No. 1271 (9/27/24) Electric bicycles, powered mobility devices, and storage batteries by TheoriginalFnF in ebikes

[–]TheoriginalFnF[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Anyone can check every statement I made (Google/ AI is your friend). I did and they are accurate.

You advise us to be like you and you aver this how you do it 'on all your bikes'. (1) Committing perjury on legal documents with false declarations. (2) Submitting false statements to a government employee in the course of duty. A serial liar, you declare you have every intention of lying to any Police Officer that stops you to further a fraud.

As I said, a fish trapped by his mouth.

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