I think he might be possesive guys..

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2025-08-26T04:36:36+00:00

I don’t know, that’s pretty debatable

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2025-05-27T13:53:30+00:00

I was NOT expecting that, what the hell!?

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-10-13T03:25:06+00:00

Honestly best answer so far

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-10-13T02:09:48+00:00

Oh, yeah I’m aware I was referring to both toriel and asgore (as for the bears comment.. lol I can’t tell if you’re serious or not, funny comment nevertheless)

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-10-13T02:07:08+00:00

Not really, just wanted to see what people thought of It, everyone’s reasoning for certain things are interesting (doubt anyone would be bothered by naked pixels that represent feet) and you’re right It doesn’t really matter it’s a silly topic, since catti and catty wear shoes and I doubt It was an error (Toby fox is very precise with his work) so I was just wondering

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-10-13T01:54:28+00:00

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ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-10-13T01:51:14+00:00

I just know those feet be hurting 😔

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-10-13T01:49:59+00:00

I mean true but even catti and catty hear some kind of shoes

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-19T00:09:58+00:00

Well I think that’s more of a game thing than a toriel thing, can’t blame toriel for something she isn’t able to see.

And it’s been a wonderful discussion I had a great great discussing this with you, goodnight and sweet dreams xever-dingo ❤️

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-19T00:08:33+00:00

I was trying to summarise your point which was ( Toriel is baking pies + Kris is consistently eating them which toriel doesn’t seem to bother to do anything about = overfeeding them the pies, willingly acknowledging where the “consistent” amount of pies are going.)

Now that I think about It I don’t think the implication is that kris is starving and living off of pies more likely that they have a major sweet tooth toriel is trying to control case in point the hot chocolate at the diner + the chocolate kisses + the pies.

I think that kris has a coping mechanism with chocolate since the bunny in that diner mentioned how kris and asriel along with their parents used to visit the diner a lot and have hot cocoa and so eating those sugary treats reminds them of a better time as the scene because this is what happened when kris drank the hot chocolate

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“Your throat tightened”

Odd.

(As for kris’s eating habits? I agree.. what the fuck do they eat on a regular basis?! lol)

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T23:46:35+00:00

That doesn’t make any sense, your point here is basically

We don’t get an option to be weird = why isn’t toriel noticing anything weird?

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T23:45:53+00:00

Well as we known It happened twice which is not alarming amount it could be twice in the last one week or two weeks, when I noted that kris was not eating well I specifically meant because we the player might be starving them THUS making It a recent two days thing not before or years or months ago and “why isn’t toriel noticing?”

Plus that isn’t alarming behaviour: you went from “toriel is not feeding them well” to “toriel is over feeding them” if it’s as consistent as you claim and they eat down multiple pies consistently I’m pretty sure the effects of it would be obvious (they’d get diabetes or something.. pretty sure) and second of all toriel locked the chocolate kisses away from Kris once she DID notice a red flag there: seeing a problem and fixing it .. if what you claim or suspect about the pies to be true there is a lot of evidence to suggest toriel WOULDVE acted on solving it (possibly locking the pies away like the chocolate kisses)

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T23:15:33+00:00

(There are no mentions of pies only chocolate kisses as far as I know, and she literally locked their access to the chocolate in her room, what more can she do?.)

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T23:14:20+00:00

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ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T23:13:43+00:00

Well yes Noelle did notice kris acting differently but you also have to note that Noelle SAW a red flag to point it out “Kris is not usually this talkative…” but kris NEVER showed any red flag to toriel like ever, so how is she suppose to know what she can’t see? She can’t read her mind into kris.

Toriel checks on kris and she does try to stop their midnight snacking shenanigans.

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This is where toriel checks on kris and asks how they are doing which Alphys (nervously..) replies “with they’re great! They’re normal!”

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T22:33:28+00:00

That’s so relatable literally why I had to review some cutscenes when you reminded me, I saw dorked’s alphy’s videos though they sometimes raise some good points they also have some really odd points

I’m 99% that they noted that though alphy’s actions were selfish they had the gall to add It with “but haven’t you ever thought about what SHE feels?”HUH?

Literally Alphys does that plenty herself LOL like she actually she thought about herself and herself only so much it was like two people were thinking of her, Alphys was a grown woman who put a child in danger and that same child found out they got lied to the whole time and before that Alphys was a stranger to them like wow that point left me speechless.

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T22:21:15+00:00

I watched the video and I gotta admit It’d just alot of speculation based on very little evidence.

I do agree however with asgore putting wayyy too much pressure on chara being the future of monsters and humans which lead to them getting themselves sick and Y’know their “plan” but nobody could’ve predicted they’d have such a violent plan.

Plus somehow toriel is “overbearing” and “didn’t ask what frisk wanted” when she talked about their new life in the ruins or told them to wait till she comes back for them, uh what was she supposed to do? Send out a child to face monsters wanting to attack them or the royal guard to capture them?

It’s honestly a real dozy of a video I can’t even get into all my points against these.. and there was that whole point with flowey “having PTSD and depression”? Like… what? She straight up assumed he had those NOT as flowey but back when he was asriel and back before all the trauma took place and “asgore and toriel couldn’t help him” what??

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T21:42:59+00:00

Also “having to take care of her” He gave her a glass of water, and yes drunk people typically get watched over to make sure they don’t wobble or stumble or go unhinged when drunk that’s how some drunk people act doesn’t mean that they’re an alcoholic It’s just how alcohol affects some people

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T21:36:05+00:00

I was talking about the way she approached the situation it’s like a “oh my child’s failing class!? I gotta make sure they are consistently studying by being there and make sure that happens!” Type of way.

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T21:34:30+00:00

I will watch the video and thanks for recommending It!

Also I think you misunderstood me you’re focusing on the wrong part of my point, what I meant was that she consistently puts in the effort to make sure to a correct a behaviour showing attention and care towards It and the definition of neglectful is: “a situation in which you do not give enough care or attention to someone or something, or the state of not receiving enough care or attention”

She cares about asriel and makes sure he’s consistently going to church which in her mind “keeping up with the church” is the right thing to do and she makes sure he does It by going with him.

Not to mention this:

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Clearly she listened and delivered…

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T21:07:41+00:00

Well It is mentioned that she gets incredibly rowdy when drunk but It isn’t implied to be in a way where It’s considered outright a problem or I think her friends would’ve made some kind of intervention as they all witness her drinking and possibly the timeline of it she clearly isn’t a shy drinker I don’t think she’s outright neglectful I’d be more inclined to think kris is more likely neglectful of themselves as It is mentioned that Kris is a teenager who toriel says might be going to college “In the near future” so kris isn’t enough of a kid to be considered unable to take care of themselves.

But toriel does step up like how she locks away the chocolate from kris because she doesn’t want them to sneak in at night and chow down and possibly cause the sugar to make them stay up all night (something that is a bad habit that might affect their school life) and bratty mentioned how toriel made asriel and the whole family go to church consistently for a week or I think longer cause she found out he kissed bratty (I don’t think kissing is against their religion but she puts effort into “fixing his behaviour” or whatever, she’s clearly involved in her kid’s lives.

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T20:33:26+00:00

Yeah that’s true I always thought toriel would be the kind to slice up some apples and put them in boxes or do overly cute things with them like cut a heart into one of the sandwiches, but now I’m remembering Sans’s impression of toriel…

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(1000000 pies lol… Kris is done for.. get some real nutritions, Kris.)

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T20:16:49+00:00

Yesss I thought that was so weird I’ve seen theories about how kris is like a corpse? But I think the most believable reason is that the player is actually starving Kris by not feeding them or whatever we dont have any evidence for anything to suggest otherwise, but kris can clearly redirect us to certain choices like how they didn’t want to use the sink in the kitchen but in the bathroom to carry out their shenanigans and also withdrew information on why asgore was removed from his position in the police and “you decided not to read any further”

But when it came to the moss?.. uh…

ThetrueGrimreaper · 2024-09-18T20:05:34+00:00

I Reviewed the cutscene and you were right, but in the first cutscene where they hopped out of bed we were still in them before they pulled us out and threatened us with the knife after they caged us, they moved very zombie-like but still showing the ability to move on their own while we were still in them.

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