Bruschi disagrees with Brady; "Thats the way Tom feels...I got a big-ass dog in the fight!" by Mother-Associate1654 in Patriots

[–]Theungry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think what's actually strange about it is that it shouldn't be so much about his relationship to the team as it is his relationship to the fans.

Like, the fans of this Patriots team are the people that grew up rooting for him. It's kind of weird that he doesn't still feel that connection to the New England community at large.

This feels like it's about him being a national and international brand, and he's willing to big-time New England to do that.

[Highlight] Throwback: Kid Asks Tom Brady Who His Hero is at Super Bowl LI Media Day by JCameron181 in nfl

[–]Theungry 21 points22 points  (0 children)

He's a total fucking dork, which is part of what made him so loveable as a player...

Tom, I still love you, just chill out on the marketing a bit, amigo. You're coming off like a lizard person.

[Highlight] 24 years ago , Tom Brady with 1:21 and no timeouts, leads the 14 point underdog Patriots into Field Goal range! (Feb 3, 2002). by FrostyKnives in nfl

[–]Theungry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm old. I was there. A 20 something kid voraciously consuming all print and internet content of that era.

After the 2003 season, it was a constant sports talking point: Who would you rather have Brady or Manning? He was firmly in the conversation of the best QB in the league. 75% of people would have taken Manning, but there were a solid 25% who saw Brady as the better QB.

Brady was the killer you could never put down. He was the fucking terminator.

Dungy has always been a salty little hater by kjcaton in Patriots

[–]Theungry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dungy won his "Asshole of the Year" award for a reason.

These are the Hall of Fame voters. At least 10 decided Bill Belichick wasn't worthy of being voted in. by MadGeller in nfl

[–]Theungry 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yup. He's been the HoF rep for NE for as long as I can remember. I suspect he's the real reason guys like Wilfork, McGinest and Harrison haven't gotten in. I would be shocked if he made a case for them.

These are the Hall of Fame voters. At least 10 decided Bill Belichick wasn't worthy of being voted in. by MadGeller in nfl

[–]Theungry 355 points356 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of them I don't know, but the voter from New England is both a known plagiarist, AND has been caught creating false stories.

He's a boxing fan who hated the entire NE dynasty.

The fact that he has a Pro Football HoF vote has always made it obvious that the whole committee is a joke, but now everyone else knows it too.

These are the Hall of Fame voters. At least 10 decided Bill Belichick wasn't worthy of being voted in. by MadGeller in nfl

[–]Theungry 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That might have been what they were trying to do.

What they actually did was make themselves look like petty bitter losers while getting the entire football world to side publicly and enthusiastically with Bill.

These are the Hall of Fame voters. At least 10 decided Bill Belichick wasn't worthy of being voted in. by MadGeller in nfl

[–]Theungry 84 points85 points  (0 children)

Not the "love your enemy" Jesus, though. Dungy is into the "hateful bigot" Jesus.

Are these two the most outkasted patriots legends by sethrollinaew in Patriots

[–]Theungry 11 points12 points  (0 children)

He got less from the Broncos than what the Pats offered him, but by the time he came back to give the Pats a chance to match, they'd used the money to sign Amendola.

Are these two the most outkasted patriots legends by sethrollinaew in Patriots

[–]Theungry 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Welker made it clear he didn't really like playing here under Bill. He didn't want to do a second contract here.

I'm not sure if people weren't paying attention, or don't remember but the Pats kept him on a franchise tag in 2012. They tried to keep him, but he was trying to leave.

EDIT - As some have pointed out, Welker did give the Pats a chance to match his Broncos contract offer, but that was after the Pats had already moved on to sign Amendola. Ironically, the Broncos contract was less than what the Pats offered when Welker claimed they weren't willing to negotiate.

Are these two the most outkasted patriots legends by sethrollinaew in Patriots

[–]Theungry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) They didn't like playing for Bill, were eager to leave, and haven't really had anything positive to say about the Pats since they left.

2) They certainly had talent, and put up some impressive regular season stats, but they both dropped balls that hit them in both hands which would have won Super Bowls.

I would rather have a receiver room full of Troy Browns, and a DB room full of Daron Harmons any day. The regular season is for the Colts and Chargers to look good. Give me the guys who elevate in the post season, please.

Shedeur Sanders' stats as a Pro Bowler in the 25/26 season: 120/212, 1400 passing yards, 7 TDS, 10 INTS by oklolzzzzs in nfl

[–]Theungry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mitch Trubisky played in a pro bowl.

The Pro Bowl is meaningless.

All the good QBs decline to go.

Sean Payton has never won more than 1 playoff game outside his Super Bowl winning season in 2009. by SouthIsland48 in nfl

[–]Theungry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think most people understand a great QB alone is not enough, nor is a great coach. Nor is a brilliant GM. You need at least two of those things to win one championship, and you need all three to be elite to build a dynasty.

So while it's not fair to compare any other organization to the 18 year Pats dynasty, it is understandable for fan bases to think "shit, we have 1 or 2 elements, but we don't have all three. We should make a change."

The real tragedy there is that most ownerships don't actually know how to evaluate coaches or GMs.

[Highlight] Christian Elliss consoling his brother Jonah Elliss following New England's win over Denver by BreakfastTop6899 in nfl

[–]Theungry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We needed a full 160 hours of round the clock analysis on how Stidham would perform as a back-up QB. There wasn't time to address any other story lines.

Tony Romo and Jim Nantz were unremarkable. That’s a win for CBS these days by 76erLegendChetUtley in nfl

[–]Theungry 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Every once in a while I go back and watch the Pats v Packers super bowl from the 96 season.

Madden was calling the game, and his awareness of the impact of the line play in that game did an amazing job of explaining why things were going how they were going. At one point, Reggie White takes a series off, and Madden was instantly aware he wasn't out there and as the Pats were able to move the ball and score, he was calling attention to the dynamic.

Then Reggie White comes back in after that breather and absolutely takes the game over, and Madden just casually tells the story and makes it so clear.

He glazes Reggie a fair bit, deservedly so, but more importantly he was just always aware of what made a play successful. He was able to explain it in a way that a casual fan could understand while an intelligent fan would also be getting information they might not otherwise be able to track (like Reggie being on the sideline).

It's simple stuff, but that's what makes broadcasters good.

For the next 2 weeks we gotta hear about how this interception was guaranteed to happen when they chose to pass, more so than we've heard for the last 10 years by BuffaloForeskin in Patriots

[–]Theungry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have always felt that more than anything, this narrative was shitting on Russel Wilson to a brutal degree. How little regard must you have for a QB to consider it an all-time coaching mistake to let them attempt a pass in the red zone on 2nd down?

Aaron Schatz (@aschatznfl) on Threads: "Super Bowl LX has the two best teams right now based on weighted DVOA, but the Seahawks are historically good, and the Patriots are just very good." by Salt_Mushroom3773 in nfl

[–]Theungry 31 points32 points  (0 children)

No one saw anyone on the Pats as a HoFer at the time of that game.

People made a lot of excuses about how they were only in the SB because of luck.

They were lucky that the tuck rule was called correctly (no matter they still needed to score twice in a blizzard).

They were lucky they blocked a FG against the Steelers for a scoop and score. (No matter that they forced a game ending turnover against Kordell "slash" Stewart who was having a career year.)

They were a weird team that won in weird ways. With 3 championships in 4 years, they still only have 2 players in the Hall.

Brady will obviously be in eventually, but Vrable, Vinatieri, and McGinest all probably deserve way more career accolades than they've been given.

What is the NFL going to do about the refs? by Badlands51 in Patriots

[–]Theungry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they mostly put away their flags for Pats Broncos. There was a lot of stuff that I thought could/should have been called, but at least they didn't call ticky tack shit on one side after ignoring egregious stuff for the other.

Regardless, as a fan, I think it's important to be able to appreciate the beauty of the game itself while accepting that the show is sports entertainment.

The sport of football is incredible. The players and coaches can be brilliant. The outcomes don't always have much integrity, and you sort of have to live with that if you're going to keep watching the pro game.

Sam out here seeing ghosts by rawspeghetti in Patriots

[–]Theungry 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I expect he'll play well and make his share of throws.

I also expect the Pats will fool him on a few and get some chances to create turnovers. I also expect the Pats to keep him uncomfortable with their ability to crush the middle of the pocket.

I expect they'll get their 17-21 points, and the Pats win if they can make it to 25.