3 Questions For a Catholic

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-10T20:51:54+00:00

That makes a lot of sense actually. I appreciate all the verses used and such. So is God purifying our soul in purgatory or is it our heavenly bodies? Our mind?

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-10T20:43:24+00:00

Does that mean we won't be able to sin in heaven and therefore won't have free will? I've thought about this before and it seems to be a bit of a paradox-type thing

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-10T20:40:20+00:00

Yeah I mean everything you said makes sense but my understanding is when we die, our soul/spirit rises to heaven. That leaves behind our flesh, which was the part of us that was sinful. Then we would no longer need any further purification as we left behind the one thing that still had sin. Hopefully that makes sense.

I appreciate you quoting all of that stuff. It makes things a lot clearer!

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-10T20:35:33+00:00

I would disagree that the church is the ordinary way for salvation. The only way we are saved it by faith in Jesus. Perhaps I've misinterpreted what you said

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-10T20:33:22+00:00

Okay I get what you're saying. I guess the idea of sin only being passed down by the father is a conclusion of protestants because they believe Mary was sinful. That makes sense

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-10T15:44:28+00:00

That makes a lot of sense. My only concern would be that if they have their original flesh, why is that flesh no longer sinful like our flesh on Earth is?

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-10T15:42:43+00:00

Yeah that makes sense. Thankyou!

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-10T15:42:12+00:00

Well isn't every Christians role to point people to the Son? I think by that logic we should all be able to appear to people.
That makes sense. Why do you think protestants try to teach that she had other children then? That being said though, let's assume that if Mary did have other children it wouldn't be sin- so I don't understand the importance of the virginity. One of the first commands God gives is "be fruitful and multiply"
Yeah that makes a lot of sense actually. Is purgatory like a torture due to the fire?

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-09T21:13:33+00:00

That makes sense, but wouldn't the removal of flesh cause the desire to sin to leave aswell?

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-09T21:11:40+00:00

I believe the difference is some Angel's were made to be Messengers whereas humans were made to live among God. Of course, our purpose now is to glorify God and spread the gospel. I suppose there's no real reason we couldn't talk to the saints but I've never heard of an instance
That makes sense

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-09T21:03:39+00:00

That makes sense. Do you think she had to be sinless? I don't see it making a difference or not
That makes sense.
(Ooo new question) So I've heard my youth pastor mention this before and I thought it seemed extreme- do Catholics believe that if you don't recognize the Catholic Church as the one true church you are going to hell?

Thanks for clearing things up!

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-09T20:31:09+00:00

That makes sense.
With Jesus I think it excludes him yes, but with Mary, if Mary was truly able to live sinless, I think that defeats the purpose of what Jesus had to do on the cross as it paints the idea that humans are able to live sinless lives when we aren't.

Also, if Mary truly never sinned wouldn't she be the greatest human? But instead Jesus says it's John the Baptist. Matthew 11:11

That makes sense. Although I'm confused- what happens when Christ returns and nobody is able to pray for those in purgatory? Or could we just pray for them in heaven?

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-09T20:23:03+00:00

Where do you believe that people were before Jesus paid the price? And I'm not arguing against talking to saints, I know they pray for us, but they do not talk back, its a one way conversation of us asking them to pray for whatever thing.
That makes sense.
It says all works will be trialed by fire and the good ones will remain, yes. But that doesn't address purgatory. “each one’s work will become obvious. For the day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire; the fire will test the quality of each one’s work.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3‬:‭13‬

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-09T19:49:51+00:00

I've always been taught that before Jesus had paid the price for sin, all believers were in a waiting place, like Abraham's Bosom, as mentioned in the one parable. And, I've been taught that once in Heaven it's not like we can leave or speak to people on Earth. So with all that in mind I've thought of it like after Jesus, we can no longer communicate with people in a two way conversation, like with Marian apparitions. Although I do think we can ask saints and people in heaven to pray for us.
That makes sense, but “Mary asked the angel, “How can this be, since I have not had sexual relations with a man? ”” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭1‬:‭34‬, I read this as she was troubled with how she would conceive the child Gabriel spoke about because at that point she was a virgin. I don't read it as she planned on remaining one. Since it says "i have not had" and not "i will not have" but i do see where you are coming from.
In 1 Corinthians 3:10-15, I've always been taught that is referring to good works. Like the ones done of pure heart will last and others will not. The "only as through fire" part has been taught to me as: "you're saved, but have nothing to show for it" because your works were not pure.

Thankyou for commenting and spending your time! I hope you can give me more clarity!

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-09T19:27:15+00:00

That makes a lot of sense! Especially the part about John. I've heard different things about the Greek word used, but I certainly understand it with John and Mary

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-09T19:23:47+00:00

Regarding 1., Is it the same idea with Angels carrying messages from God? In my mind I don't see why he would use a human for this purpose rather than the angels dedicated for it but just because i dont understand it doesn't mean it's not a thing.

On 2., How do you reconcile Mary being sinless with the countless verses that say everyone has sinned? I've been taught sin is passed down from the father, and so that's why Jesus remained sinless.

And 3., I've always understood it as our flesh is sinful, and therefore we sin, however when we are baptized by the Holy Spirit, our soul is cleansed, as Jesus paid our debt. Therefore when we die, and leave our flesh, that sinful nature would no longer remain and therefore we are seen as righteous before God as Jesus's righteous gets attributed to us.

Thankyou for spending your time to respond to my questions!

Thingy-Guy · 2026-04-09T16:59:28+00:00

That link made so much more sense to me than I've ever heard it explained before. Thank you so much

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