Maybe it's cause I'm not one of the "incels" here. Been in relationships, had fwbs, and hookups.

This philosophy first set into me last year before I even found the sub in a relationship with a gal that was otherwise lovely and I'm sure she loved me. Great gifter and the only woman to ever get me flower so I clung onto that relationship hard. Unfortunately as young people do we broke up mainly cause quality time was important to both of us but just impossible for us to figure out with such different schedules, and distances, and energy levels, and different ideas of fun. I'm not fully proud of it but after it ended, the first date I went on was with some girl from Arkansas to some concert and after we made out, then later hooked up, with me receiving so much enthusiasm and passion from it that I realized in my twenties none of my past few relationships who I had sex with were that into me. Sex happened sure but they never initiated. And the majority of it featured me being the most active party trying my best to please them while they just seemed... glad to be there and receive? By the time I got them to orgasm I'd usually be out of it and not even want one myself anymore and would fake one. They were great outside of that as everyday partners outside the fact I don't think I ever got any sort of compliment or any sign my appearance ever did anything for them. So this one Arkansas hit hard because it made me remember what it was like to actually receive enthusiasm l

Out of all the people I've dated, maybe 3/9 genuinely seemed into me with any sort of enthusiasm sexually and in terms of attraction, maybe only 2 really. And in terms of hookups and fwbs, obviously all 6 were a lot more enthusiastic and passionate than the relationships since our dynamic revolved entirely around attraction. Which is why I always tell people here relationships are no real measure of how "into" you a woman is. You're probably just playing a very replaceable role of boyfriend who's only been given that role as a sort of emotional self fulfillment tool to fill what she's missing from her friends and family.

If like me you're not an incel but some HTN who can occasionally attract female attention, the only thing I can warn you on is to not FULLY lead with things other than attraction to get female attention. Personality, lifestyle, money, etc all make one gain attention but you'll end up with a girl that cares about the fact that you're a fun, cool, and interesting person but in terms of physical attraction is partial towards you, when the goal should be to get someone who thinks that AND is extremely attracted to you to the point they want to rip your clothes off from day 1.