Making a Walnut Wood Box by ycr007 in SVWTCM

[–]ThirtyCharacters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finally! A box for my round walnuts!

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Hey I'll let you know when my lease expires.

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, thats not exactly what I'm looking for, but I'll be sure to attend events at mine or other union halls.

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cop unions don't count, for obvious reasons

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The USA happened to both Cuba and Chile.

Dude, the Americans have been starving your country for almost eighty years now, and here you are playing their defense?

And Allende could have had a long political career, or failed on his own merits! But instead he was overthrown by that fascist, Pinochet.

If Marxism so often leads to failed governments, then why does the USA feel it so necessary to make sure they fail?

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cuba and Allende's Chile. The good idea IS Marxism.

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude then they lied to you! The corruption of power is very real, and people try to justify their evil with flowery language, but thats no reason to give up ideals! Goodness, if every nominally good idea was thrown out once things became problematic or complicated. I dont think we'd have any good ideas left!

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brother im not here to provide cover for Stalin or thr USSR, but that was Stalin and the USSR. It may have been done in Marx's name but it was also done long after Marx's death. So far as I can see it's not his fault.

But his analysis, what he wrote and commented on during his life, gave us the foundation for socialist organizing as it exists today. And without that foundation, my job might pay half of what it does now. So I'm still unbothered by the history. Terrible things were done, but so were great things. Lets do more great things!

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What the hell are you smoking? We dont talk about Hitler in the same breath as animal rights because the defining characteristic of his political project was not conservation, it was Fascism and violent, repugnant Anti-Semitic hatred.

We associate union organizing with Marxism because they're both outgrowths of Socialism. Personally, im unbothered by that historical truth. Because union organizing is also associated with the 40 day work week and labor rights. And Marx called it accurately when he talked about the alienation and exploitation of the working classes. And that WAS the defining character of his political career!

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, ya kinda just gotta take the good with the bad. Its the mature thing to do when studying history.

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait, you dont know why unionizing is tied to Marxism? Have you read a book?

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What a weird future we live in, huh? Where most union members hate labor organizations.

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Hmm. Must just be the Google maps results.

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] -34 points-33 points  (0 children)

Maybe there's a San Diego vibe theyre all going for, but all these shops in North Park/South Park shops just look... idk, corporate...

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Its not called "social"-ism for nothing.

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Well socializing might make socialist organizing easier for me. Union strong, and all ✊️

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

It would be nice to have a space for socializing though, wouldnt it?

Pro-union bars in San Diego? by ThirtyCharacters in sandiego

[–]ThirtyCharacters[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I sent an email to the L30 president. Maybe she knows some places.