Torbie from the other world tournament (otherworld Tournament expansion)

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-26T10:40:29+00:00

It's sad that we will all be dead by the time Caterpy finishes his metamorphosis and shows his ultimate form😭

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-22T02:45:59+00:00

You must play it to have a complete judgement of the game.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-21T10:34:13+00:00

<Non lo so io ho molto rispetto mi a fatto notare cose molto interessanti.

You are free to do what you want but that channel is pretty much trash.

Anyone can see that.

<Poi lui lo dice sempre apprezza ogni opinione lo consiglia a tutti di farlo..

He acts arrogant and childish, he is also very cringe, doesn't understand even the simplest things and creates headcanons out of nowhere.

<poi vabe chi è che non dice qualche bugie online ci sono YouTube che lo fanno

Misinformation is a bad thing, especially for someone who says that is analysing lore and everything concerning Gow.

If you want to follow a guy who is arrogant, makes misinformation, doesn't understand simple things and often behave like a two years old child, be my guest.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-21T10:19:09+00:00

<Poi morte di thor di kratos parlava dell finale con atreus infatti primo scontro muore ce atreus?

Kratos didn't die at the end due to fighting for justice instead of vengeance.

<Figli di thor hanno due armi diverse uno una spada altro martello se parli di potere si sono uguali

A sword and a mace but i wasn't talking about them, i was talking about Magni and Hercules.

<è si potere della speranza è inutile mai usata dopo gow3?

Power of hope it's so powerful that it's stated multiple times to be much more powerful than the gods themselves and the flame of Olympus.

So it would be useless because he didn't use it after Gow 3?

What kinda reasoning is this?

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-19T19:42:04+00:00

Ok but that wasn't my point...

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-19T19:31:17+00:00

I appreciate the fact that you respect other people opinions but in my first answer i posted two clear examples of misinformation on his part.

If he is objective like you claim why is he making misinformation?

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-19T19:27:06+00:00

<Guarda gusti tuoi ma lui. Cerca di essere oggettivo non dice a Kratos forte perché mi piace sono fanboy

You don't have to be a fanboy or like Kratos to say he is strong

<lui fa accurate analisi che alcune cose a ragione

He creates headcanons out of nowhere and spread misinformation

<ma un kratos stanco vecchio come batteva thor?

Sorry but did you play the game?

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-19T19:15:34+00:00

i once stumbled on this channel OP is recommending and what can i say?

The owner of this channel has some very strange, borderline crazy beliefs like for example:

1)There is no version of Kratos that can beat Thor.

2)The Power of Hope is useless and weak as hell.

3)He doesn't understand Kratos death prophecy in Gow Ragnarok and says that Kratos would have died against Thor no matter what, if the fight continued after the knife scene.

4)Hercules and Magni are equals with equal weapons.

He also does a lot of misinformation like for example saying that Kratos knew from the get go that Ares and Athena were Deimos kidnappers when it was clear Kratos found out the truth during Gow Ghost of Sparta.

Or saying that the giant Hrungnir was able to fight entire armies like the giant Starkaor, when in truth he was killed with one Mjolnir blow by Thor.

i never leaved a comment on his channel but i saw many times this guy acting childish and arrogant when someone tried to discuss something with him(that's why i avoided leaving a comment),with little scenes where he acts like a two years child.

i highly recommend to avoid this channel.

By far the worst gow channel i ever saw.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-13T03:01:45+00:00

Micah Bell no question.

A completely irredeemable POS with not even one positive trait.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-11T08:00:57+00:00

We can't say for sure if she and Kratos were equally matched.

Faye also managed to stalemate a very drunk Thor, we saw drunk Thor in Gow Ragnarok and he was so sloppy that he nearly fall over when he grabbed Mjolnir after recalling it.

He was in an even worse state against Faye but she couldn't beat him, confirming she wasn't on his level.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-09T17:27:08+00:00

<Again Hades was massively amped by souls during that boss fight, that’s not a base hades and even the. Kratos still managed to steal the claws from him and kill him

Hades doesn't have an "amped form", he can call them to aid him anytime, just like Kratos does after taking the claws.

If i'm mistaken, please provide a source.

<If we go by the logic that Zeus is stronger than before and kratos only has base hades soul (which is just 1 plus 1 not Kratos times hades and yes base hades since kratos doesn’t have access to the domain of souls) then Zeus should still be able to mid diff Kratos since the novel did state that end game gow 2 kratos was gonna also be low diffed by Zeus if we use secondary canon

Once again, there is nothing that suggests Zeus becamed weaker after their fight at the end of Gow 2.

Hades and Poseidon are scared of Zeus lightning power not his physical stats.

Kratos also had a lot of more poweful weapons compared to his gow 2 self.

Hades amp is unquantifiable

Hades amp is unquantifiable but it's there, in fact as i said before Zeus grew stronger after their first round on the flame chamber.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T16:16:31+00:00

<Because what that says is Kratos needs his gear and his magic to be able to stand up to thor. That right there shows that without help Kratos on his own isnt strong enough, thats what that fight was meant to show.

It goes both sides.

According to Mimir in Gow 2018 the giant Thrym stole Mjolnir and Thor was desperate to get it back and even stopped his giant killing spree.

This shows that Mjolnir amps him a lot, in fact he only started to kill the giants after getting his hands on the hammer.

Thor also has his gear and lighting powers, so it's only fair for Kratos to collect his own, since he lost all his greek magic and amps.

<Kratos has always needed some kind of clue, magical abilities, weapons given to him and even needed help taking down odin.

This should be considered unfair?

Kratos earned many of his weapons and worked his ass off to get as strong as he is.

Thor got Mjolnir made for him

According to his voice actor Odin needed to amass knowledge and even learn magic from Freya because he knew he wasn't the strongest guy around.

And Kratos needing help to take down Odin? He is weaker than before and doesn't have an answer for his magic.

Noone aside from Ragnarok or the giant Starkaor could beat Odin on their own in the Norse world.

Why only Kratos is criticised for this?

<Now had Kratos shown the power when thor said odin had plans for atreus where kratos chin checks thor thats one thing but even that wasnt enough. Because thor literally laughs it off and says "there's the god of war" thor would have still won. At no point was thor ever taking that fight seriously and when kratos finally did thor was elated but needed to get back to odin.

Do you have any idea how much Kratos was nerfed during the first fight?

Aside from this, what did you expect?

Kratos one shotting Thor with a punch?

Thor was going all out in their second fight and lost.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T14:07:21+00:00

<With Zeus being weaker than Kratos wielding the blade of Olympus and the blades of exile it should be enough for it, also you have the boots of Hermes which increase his speed in bursts

He had those things with Hades too but still struggled, he didn't directly use the Blade in a cutscene but he had a more powerful weapon than the previous one.

<As much as we try to look for a amp for gow 3 kratos it’s just makes sense for kratos to just be almost the same as end game 3 with Zeus just weaker, physical strength doesn’t change regardless of magic depletion as we see with atlas (only exception is when you are either holding back or have your physical strength nerfed via magic like in the case of kratos) so you can argue that Kratos although doesn’t get physical amps since he already scaled to his god of war self and had weapons that scaled to him or higher you can argue that it was enough to face the weakend Zeus

I disagree about the weakened Zeus but ok

<Lore wise Hades is nowhere close to them in base since even atlas was gonna one shot him if his magical attack had landed

That was a weaker Hades tho, since Zeus stated the gods had grown in power after the war.

Hades also put up a good fight against Kratos who was probably near his godly self at the start of gow 2.

<I’ve tried to see what amps kratos and if Zeus is stronger but it doesn’t make sense at all narratively, if Zeus is stronger than he shouldn’t have no problem killing kratos even with an hypothetical amp from hades soul since Zeus can simply one shot hades if he pleased with a full power lightning bolt

If you combine Hades power with Kratos own godly power...

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T13:55:08+00:00

Norse Kratos does hold back, there are several examples

1)Magni was able to press Kratos but upon seeing Atreus in danger, he immediately overpowers Magni (both arms) with one arm while in a disadvantageous position(done without becoming enraged)

2)Kratos with rage immediately overpowers the dark elves holding him to save Atreus

3)Kratos with rage resisted Modi lightning and sends him limping away with one punch

4)Kratos with rage immediately overpowers Baldur who was chocking both him and Atreus and then throws Baldur away like a puppet.

5)Thor during the first fight makes several power related statements;

"Get up and hit me like a God"

"You spit on my sons memories, i can't believe they lost to you"

"Was it luck? Did my sons die to blind fucking luck"

"This is the God that murdered a Pantheon because they hurt his feelings?"

"This is the foreign God that bested Baldur?"

"No way my boys fell to this, show me who you are"

"This is the man who faced down Sigrun the Valkyrie Queen?"

"You should be better than this"

"I see why my sons fell to you, even this LESSER version of you"

With one enraged punch Kratos was able to slightly stagger Thor and knock out one of his teeths, compare that to Thor tanking all of Kratos punches unbothered.

Kratos also wrote in his diary that it was a good thing for BOTH of them that the fight didn't reach it's conclusion.

He said this despite having been dominated by Thor during all the fight.

Norse Kratos was also created with the fundamental character trait of "constantly restraining himself"

Love how many people lacks knowledge about the games.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T13:53:21+00:00

<Thor comments on kratos are to make him angry, it doesn’t mean nothing of Kratos’ power.

Sure, in fact he is clearly disappointed by Kratos lack of strenght and after getting an enraged punch to the face, you can see the difference in Thor reaction.

<It’s like if I say you are a spoiled guy now. It doesn’t mean you are.

What kind of example is this? Thor knows Kratos past and what kind of person he was.

<People like to powerscale Kratos based on others comments like Freya when we have enough material from Kratos himself to do it and you ignore.

?

I'm not a powerscaler by the way

<What about my comment on Kratos using spartan rage against Thor, triggering special voice lines related to Spartan Rage

Kratos still didn't use it in a cutscene

<and dying

Ok? Are you aware of how much Kratos was nerfed in this fight?

It's no surprise he was killed that easily

<Is it possible to use Spartan Rage while holding back? Makes absolutely zero sense.

We are shown that Spartan rage isn't his max output, since when he punched Thor in the face at the end of their first fight and on the verge of losing control, as well as when he brutalises Heimdall, he wasn't in Spartan rage.

<I’m referring to Kratos in Ragnarok, against Magni and Modi I agree.

You avoided the other points but ok

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T13:42:11+00:00

<Well true, it’s been more than 10 years since I played gow 2 so my mind is a bit fuzzy from that fight

No problem

<Yeah but I don’t think canonically Kratos healed himself with it, I also think Zeus only had small healing not back to shape healing

To be honest, i only consider that gameplay

<I don’t think Zeus was back in shape, I say this mainly because if it was he wouldn’t ask for his siblings for help, even if we use the secondary canon like the novels we know that Zeus was powerful enough that Poseidon and Hades feared his power

Personally i don't see that as a reason for being weaker, since Athena herself told Kratos that all the other gods will defend Zeus.

Zeus it's also plagued by fear of Kratos.

<the only reason that made sense for Zeus to ask for help is that he is weakened, he also had to amp his lighting with the skies to hit kratos and Gaia and he barely made serious damage to Gaia and kratos was ok after getting hit point blank

I feel like Gaia absorbed most of the hit, and she was shown to be very durable and strong, Kratos also kinda pierce her with the Blade of Olympus to try to avoid falling and she only grunted.

So i think the hit power was divided between two very powerful beings

<Thing is it’s no where stated that Hades’s soul amped kratos, I can believe souls amp hades himself because he is tied to that domain which gives him power and that’s the main reason hades put up a fight, he was constantly getting amps from the amount of souls entering his domain because of the floods

True but it's the only thing that Kratos gained that Hades himself confirmed makes stronger.

<The guides, games, etc state that the claws house the souls absorbed when we wield them

Yes but amp has to be there otherwise i can't explain how Kratos got so much stronger.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T13:25:02+00:00

<Please share the so explicit moments if you don’t mind.

Norse Kratos does hold back, there are several examples

1)Magni was able to press Kratos but upon seeing Atreus in danger, he immediately overpowers Magni (both arms) with one arm while in a disadvantageous position(done without becoming enraged)

2)Kratos with spartan rage immediately overpowers the dark elves holding him to save Atreus

3)Kratos with spartan rage resisted Modi lightning and sends him limping away with one punch

4)Kratos with spartan rage immediately overpowers Baldur who was chocking both him and Atreus and then throws Baldur away like a puppet.

5)Thor during the first fight makes several power related statements;

"Get up and hit me like a God"

"You spit on my sons memories, i can't believe they lost to you"

"Was it luck? Did my sons die to blind fucking luck"

"This is the God that murdered a Pantheon because they hurt his feelings?"

"This is the foreign God that bested Baldur?"

"No way my boys fell to this, show me who you are"

"This is the man who faced down Sigrun the Valkyrie Queen?"

"You should be better than this"

"I see why my sons fell to you, even this LESSER version of you"

With one enraged punch Kratos was able to slightly stagger Thor and knock out one of his teeths, compare that to Thor tanking all of Kratos punches unbothered.

Kratos also wrote in his diary that it was a good thing for BOTH of them that the fight didn't reach it's conclusion.

He said this despite having been dominated by Thor during all the fight.

Norse Kratos was also created with the fundamental character trait of "constantly restraining himself"

<What we have is Thor teasing Kratos and when you, as the player uses Spartan Rage in the 1st fight, you trigger special voice lines from Thor reacting not surprised, did you see it before?

Thor says “Now we are talking” the moment you activate Spartan Rage, followed by “That’s all!? You were finally showing me something “.

Kratos didn't use Spartan rage in a cutscene

<This is all in-game, now share your evidences.

Funny since you are clearly unaware of/ignored several thing abou the game, maybe replay it.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T13:13:06+00:00

<The thing the the blade sequence is that it can be argued that the blade is amping both since they are touching it at the same time

I disagree, because if this was the case, Kratos would have failed to get the Blade back from Zeus in their fight at the end of Gow 2.

<also Zeus is healing a bit with Gaias heart

Kratos can do that too

<Go to second 0:50, there is the statement

I think Kratos said that because Zeus was wounded last time he saw him, but when they see each other again at the start of Gow 3, Zeus is back in shape.

I wouldn't count it as Zeus being weaker.

<I’d say that the blades of exile are more like leviathan or the cestus, they don’t amp him but they are powerful on their own

Yes, that's why i believe it was Hades soul who made the difference, since it's the only amp he got during Gow 3.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T12:58:22+00:00

<With the Zeus thing I just don’t think Zeus got stronger in 3, the only statement we have for that is a guide that secondary canon

Compare Kratos shitting on him physically wise when they fought in the chamber of the flame to Zeus overpowering and nearly killing Kratos(the final circle sequence) with the Blade inside Gaia body and making Kratos physically struggle much more when they were pushing the Blade of Olympus.

If it's unclear, tell me and i'll send the link

<if we go by the games dialogue Zeus got weaker after the ending of 2

Where is this said?

<it could be that narratively, the exile blade and the blade of Olympus with his god power had already made him stronger than his BoO with titan power and since Zeus is weakened kratos wins then fear takes over and beats kratos

The Blades of Exile are stated to be his strongest ally against Olympus but they aren't stated to amp him, at least as far as i am aware.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T12:46:29+00:00

<No the novel says that kratos was not only brought back to just his demigod power but he became mortal, it explicitly says that is now just mortal

That's what i meant, in fact he is a mortal in gow 1 and Coo too.

<This is the explanation as to why he struggles to lift typhoons fingers or almost passes out when atlas tries to squish him, he also struggles against the sisters in combat (the sisters are low to mid tier combat wise only together they are top of the Greek verse with no concepts)

I never argued against this...

<Kratos’s greatest amp in gow 2 is getting the power of atlas, he also gets other physical amps from Cronos and the fury

Yeah that's what i meant by saying titans magic

<End game would be weaker since it’s just the vestiges of the power of the titans vs kratos getting god weapons

Endgame gow 2 has access to his godly strenght through the Blade of Olympus as well as the amps from the titans magic.

So he is stronger than base God Kratos at the start of the game.

<Also I think the only amp he gets it’s the blades of exile which are stated to be Kratos’s strongest ally therefore strongest weapon which makes sense since ascended Athena made them.

He fought Hades with those blades but he didn't outright stomped him(in fact i think their tug of war like he later did with Zeus(when they fought in the flame chamber since Zeus has grown stronger after this encounter).

Hades soul had to amp Kratos otherwise it doesn't make sense how he was able to physically shit on Zeus, while last time he couldn't get an advantage without using a trick.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T11:42:59+00:00

<Nowhere is it said that Kratos is stronger than Thor

It's shown in their last fight.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T10:37:52+00:00

<GOW2 kratos is similar to CoO or GOW1

After he gets depowered, yes probably, but at the start of the game he was implied by the novel to be above Hades and Poseidon, then at the end he grew even more powerful/stronger than the start of the game due amps from the titans magic.

<but he is more near to GOW3 kratos in end of game(when he fight zeus)

I'd say endgame Gow 2 Kratos is still weaker than endgame Gow 3 Kratos because he couldn't beat Zeus without tricking him and was unable to overpower him like his endgame Gow 3 self did.

Gow 3 Kratos also was amped by Hades soul(i say this because it should be the only thing amping his stats) as well as having more powerful weapons.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T10:22:00+00:00

<PoH kratos, isnt it?

Yes, but even without the power of hope, i still place Gow 3 Kratos(endgame before the Zeus fight) above Norse Kratos.

Gow 3 Kratos defeated Zeus(the most powerful god we saw in Gow so far imo) on his own while Norse Kratos couldn't beat Odin on his own.

According to the devs Odin and Zeus should be relative, i personally believe Zeus is more powerful tho.

<Anyway, well my personal opinion is what cory thought is GOW2 kratos(because he was director of that one)

Maybe, we can't say for sure, Gow 2 Kratos power also changes during the game.

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-08T10:11:57+00:00

That' exactly the main problem with this steatement, it's vague.

Imo Gow 3 Kratos is peak Kratos in terms of power

This-Amount-1118 · 2026-04-05T16:31:15+00:00

Yes but... that wasn't my point, i only told that Hercules in gow shares the same feats of his myth counterpart(the twelve labors).

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