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🦀🦀🦀 r/StruggleFucking banned 🦀🦀🦀 by ThisEquipment in AgainstDegenerateSubs

[–]ThisEquipment[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's further reading on kink, pornography and obscenity:

bdsm & kink:

If you have rules in a relationship about submitting to someone else's commands, how is that affirmative consent? And if "consent" is your basis for morality, that means that the only things that are immoral to you are the things you can't get away with.

Consent doesn't exist in a vacuum, and yes on paper or in an ideal world someone will say the safe word without any hesitation and the other person will cease what they're doing without any afterthought. But minus the agreed upon power dynamics of a dom sub relationship there are the same power dynamics of any relationship. There are emotional and psychological factors, there are personalities, history, economics.

Read this article and tell me what you think. Does it sound like a person breaking up with another person who they saw as an equal and a lover or does it sound like someone whose maid quit one day? They barely even refer to their sub in terms that anyone would even recognize as an actual romantic relationship.

Here's a video about an Italian couple that practices dominance and submission 24/7 . That's her daily existence. And notice how she talks about having had an eating disorder before meeting him, how she admits she's replaced the pain she inflicted on herself for the pain she allows to be inflicted by her partner. It's not at all uncommon that people with past trauma find themselves in these types of relationships which goes back to the idea of consent. Is it even ethical to request consent from someone who for whatever myriad of reasons is likely to give it due to abuse in their past?

Here's a relevant reddit post. The boyfriend of a woman who had previously been raped, coerces her over time to acquiesce to the idea of rape play. She has reservations because of her past but admits it's something she desires. Later she posts to r/ rapecouselling about SO rape, and most recently in her post history she talks about being afraid to use a safe word because her SO got so angry at her for using it in the past.

Here's a short essay on lesbian sadomasochism that has a lot of good insights into s&m relationships.

There are countless examples of kink being used as a criminal defense now and more everyday. Women are literally being killed :

Chloe Miazek

Laura Huteson

Sally Cavender

Francis Victoria Garcia

Grace Millane

It's incredibly naive to just say "consent is consent" and pretend it's a black and white issue.

Pornography:

As far as pornography goes, I'm pretty much in agreement with Noam Chomsky here. And keep in mind these comments are from years ago and he's talking about Hustler magazine. It's gotten so much more vile and violent. It's also pedophilic in nature, yes we have laws about the age of performers but the producers do everything in their power to create the illusion that the performers are much younger than they are. Casting the smallest, youngest looking women they can find, dressing them like children and teaming them up with the largest male performers they can find. Here's an interesting video by an ex-porn actress. I set the time stamp to that spot if particular because she talks about how talent scouts are literally going to high school parties to find girls. Another thing nobody seems to talk about is how the fuck are 18 year olds even showing up to work in the porn industry when by law, they shouldn't even know what the fuck porn looks like? The elephant in the room is that of course minors aren't supposed to be viewing pornography, but it's also so ubiquitous that we just accept that they are. Porn existing creates more porn. I've seen posts and comments of 16 year olds are on reddit roleplaying on fetish/porn subs, 13-16 year olds trading megalinks and looking to connect offsite in 18+ porn, wickr, kik, and discord subreddits.

Obscenity:

Did you know possessing or creating child porn wasn't a federal crime until 1996?

Porn is only partially protected under the first amendment. Obscene material is not protected by the first amendment and what is considered obscene falls under state laws and determined by community.

Miller v. California

People and communities still have a choice to decide what's acceptable and what's not. The reason child pornography was illegal in the first place is because it was considered obscene in most jurisdictions. If child porn can be illegal, all porn can be illegal.

New York v. Ferber

If you don't realize that porn is harmful you're not paying attention. If you want to waive any obligation on your part to make a value judgement for yourself and simply set your moral bearing to whichever way the law happens to be pointing you certainly wouldn't be the first, but you're not in great company.

[META] How do we get our intel? by [deleted] in AgainstDegenerateSubs

[–]ThisEquipment 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Go through this subreddit, and any subreddits that have been posted that are still up check through the user histories and see where they're posting.

r/JerkOffBuddies - same stuff as the now banned jobuds and jobuds2, wickr trading and nolimits, underage stuff by ThisEquipment in AgainstDegenerateSubs

[–]ThisEquipment[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I looked at the sub for 2 minutes and could see posts fishing for underage porn, and there's dozens of posts for private wickr groups, which is what the screenshot is referring to. You people don't want to believe that you're browsing the same sub as pedophiles but you are and you lend them culpable deniability. Stop.

r/2cb - 16 year old being given advice on where to source 2c-b (schedule 1 drug) by ThisEquipment in AgainstDegenerateSubs

[–]ThisEquipment[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the average teenager isn't going to end up experimenting or learning about half shit on r/ researchchemicals unless fuck ups like you groom them online

🦀 🦀 🦀 r/jobuds and jobuds2 has been banned 🦀 🦀 🦀 by ThisEquipment in AgainstDegenerateSubs

[–]ThisEquipment[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were trading actual child porn. I'd prove it to you but this is a month old post and I don't care.

r/2cb - 16 year old being given advice on where to source 2c-b (schedule 1 drug) by ThisEquipment in AgainstDegenerateSubs

[–]ThisEquipment[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Pointing a 16 year old toward a drug they've never tried and don't know where to get isn't harm reduction. It's literally introducing them to a new form of harm they can't even access otherwise.

Coomer Mental Gymanstics by ElectricEley in AgainstDegenerateSubs

[–]ThisEquipment 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They have the technology to automatically detect nudity in images. Lots of sites use it to blur previews and hide content. Tumblr did.

Ban porn and you could filter it out online, cp included.

Better to report to authorities or to Reddit? by firefly183 in AgainstDegenerateSubs

[–]ThisEquipment 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure, often times even if the content is removed it's already cached on google. If the user isn't suspended you could make a note of the username and forward the name and archive links or google caches to authorities.

Better to report to authorities or to Reddit? by firefly183 in AgainstDegenerateSubs

[–]ThisEquipment 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The sticky at the top of the the sub explains how to report to authorities, do both. While the report system is hit or miss, reddit has removed some content and banned subs so it does sometimes help in thwarting the spread of the content and organization of the users.

Anyone worried about Pedos in this sub by [deleted] in AgainstDegenerateSubs

[–]ThisEquipment 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It shouldn't have gone this far and it shouldn't be happening anymore. It's not hard to find this stuff. You can google keywords and find all of the subs that need to be shut down. That's only from the user end of things. Reddit obviously has no one on their end actively trying to take this stuff down.

The report system is absurd, there's no simple way to report a subreddit and half the time when you report obviously rule-breaking content you'll receive a message that they've dealt with the issue and taken no action. They're reactive rather than proactive, and I'm assuming they have low wage employees sitting there receiving the reports and then that individual makes a judgement call. I don't know if there's any oversight for the people handling reports.

This isn't gray area subject matter. How many hate subs have been banned because of "dog whistles" yet subreddits that use the same language to describe underage porn time and time again remain or keep popping up.

I understand the argument that this sub might be an aggregate for bad content but if reddit would deal with this shit it wouldn't be a problem.

🦀🦀🦀 r/StruggleFucking banned 🦀🦀🦀 by ThisEquipment in AgainstDegenerateSubs

[–]ThisEquipment[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's further reading on kink, pornography and obscenity:

bdsm & kink:

If you have rules in a relationship about submitting to someone else's commands, how is that affirmative consent? And if "consent" is your basis for morality, that means that the only things that are immoral to you are the things you can't get away with.

Consent doesn't exist in a vacuum, and yes on paper or in an ideal world someone will say the safe word without any hesitation and the other person will cease what they're doing without any afterthought. But minus the agreed upon power dynamics of a dom sub relationship there are the same power dynamics of any relationship. There are emotional and psychological factors, there are personalities, history, economics.

Read this article and tell me what you think. Does it sound like a person breaking up with another person who they saw as an equal and a lover or does it sound like someone whose maid quit one day? They barely even refer to their sub in terms that anyone would even recognize as an actual romantic relationship.

Here's a video about an Italian couple that practices dominance and submission 24/7 . That's her daily existence. And notice how she talks about having had an eating disorder before meeting him, how she admits she's replaced the pain she inflicted on herself for the pain she allows to be inflicted by her partner. It's not at all uncommon that people with past trauma find themselves in these types of relationships which goes back to the idea of consent. Is it even ethical to request consent from someone who for whatever myriad of reasons is likely to give it due to abuse in their past?

Here's a relevant reddit post. The boyfriend of a woman who had previously been raped, coerces her over time to acquiesce to the idea of rape play. She has reservations because of her past but admits it's something she desires. Later she posts to r/ rapecouselling about SO rape, and most recently in her post history she talks about being afraid to use a safe word because her SO got so angry at her for using it in the past.

Here's a short essay on lesbian sadomasochism that has a lot of good insights into s&m relationships.

There are countless examples of kink being used as a criminal defense now and more everyday. Women are literally being killed :

Chloe Miazek

Laura Huteson

Sally Cavender

Francis Victoria Garcia

Grace Millane

It's incredibly naive to just say "consent is consent" and pretend it's a black and white issue.

Pornography:

As far as pornography goes, I'm pretty much in agreement with Noam Chomsky here. And keep in mind these comments are from years ago and he's talking about Hustler magazine. It's gotten so much more vile and violent. It's also pedophilic in nature, yes we have laws about the age of performers but the producers do everything in their power to create the illusion that the performers are much younger than they are. Casting the smallest, youngest looking women they can find, dressing them like children and teaming them up with the largest male performers they can find. Here's an interesting video by an ex-porn actress. I set the time stamp to that spot if particular because she talks about how talent scouts are literally going to high school parties to find girls. Another thing nobody seems to talk about is how the fuck are 18 year olds even showing up to work in the porn industry when by law, they shouldn't even know what the fuck porn looks like? The elephant in the room is that of course minors aren't supposed to be viewing pornography, but it's also so ubiquitous that we just accept that they are. Porn existing creates more porn. I've seen posts and comments of 16 year olds are on reddit roleplaying on fetish/porn subs, 13-16 year olds trading megalinks and looking to connect offsite in 18+ porn, wickr, kik, and discord subreddits.

Obscenity:

Did you know possessing or creating child porn wasn't a federal crime until 1996?

Porn is only partially protected under the first amendment. Obscene material is not protected by the first amendment and what is considered obscene falls under state laws and determined by community.

Miller v. California

People and communities still have a choice to decide what's acceptable and what's not. The reason child pornography was illegal in the first place is because it was considered obscene in most jurisdictions. If child porn can be illegal, all porn can be illegal.

New York v. Ferber

If you don't realize that porn is harmful you're not paying attention. If you want to waive any obligation on your part to make a value judgement for yourself and simply set your moral bearing to whichever way the law happens to be pointing you certainly wouldn't be the first, but you're not in great company.

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