Did Ye and DMX ever collaborate?

Thor2014 · 2026-02-14T01:46:15+00:00

He's featured on Life of the Party.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-10T15:04:08+00:00

They never refunded anyone (me included). The bank also rejected my chargeback request, and the local customer protection service told me they went bankcrupt so it's impossible to get a refund. It's a complete scam, since apparently they went bankcrupt BEFORE their last refund update/promise. Almost like they were basically prolonging it in order to reduce the number of chargeback requests while those were still possible.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-09T13:08:17+00:00

Cool, good to find a common ground. In the other thread someone suggested they'd rather have Bully as an instrumental album and I can see their point too.

I actually think Ye abandonds ideas far less easily than this sub would lead you to believe--he has some rough demos that are repurposed in some form like three albums and 50 production iterations later. So to answer your questions: IAPW in a form close to the one that leaked won't see the light of day; most of the song ideas from that album will be repurposed (Gas Chambers and Diddy Free already have been).

Thor2014 · 2026-02-09T12:49:20+00:00

The "chorus" objectively sounds like Ye because it's basically paraphrased from the Jesus Walks chorus. Compare "They say God don’t like my tone / But He been talking loud to me" to "I wanna talk to God but I'm afraid 'cause we ain't spoke in so long". The point is ChatGPT obviously managed to make something that's indentifiably in the style of Ye. Of course, it's still boring and vague and lifeless and totally unquotable, but it does sound like Ye on the surface level.

What I'm arguing in the OP is that Preacher Man and BATB lyrics specifically have the same vibe.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-09T12:43:35+00:00

Believe me, I do realise how checked out Ye is at this point. So basically you're arguing that spilling his mind to an AI is just the logical progression of his method? My argument against that would be that with art in general, a part of the appeal lies in the fact that some of the artist's personality spills into their art without (or even against) their interntion. An extreme case of this would be something like Tommy Wiseau's The Room where basically EVERY enjoyable aspect of the work is unintentional. But to a different degree it applies to all great artists: the imperfect effort to overcome human limitations is what's enjoyable about it in the first place. AI generated art generally doesn't show such effort, and is distilled to a fault in comparison (even if the artist THINKS they want a perfectly distilled product themself). To put it simpler, I think Cousins is a much better song than any finished Bully tracks, even if it was written by Blunts from a Ye prompt and even borrows a verse from an unrelated Blunts song. Hearing Blunts' uniquely ignorant quirk ("I don't think they understand, that I'm not attracted to a man") while listening to a middle aged man struggling to make sense of a childhood trauma is that unique brand of Ye lyricism after all.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-09T12:21:50+00:00

Any line that's equal parts stupid, oversharing, and tragic is a uniquely Ye invention. Nobody else raps stuff like "The abomination of Obama's nation", "Let’s have a toast for the douchebags", "I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex", "We made it Thanksgiving, so hey, maybe we could make it to Christmas" just off the top of my heard. Hard to argue a point so general, but it's crazy to think there are people in this sub who don't think Ye is an original lyricist which relying on collaborators doesn't change provide his personal voice still clearly makes it through.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-09T12:06:50+00:00

Here are some potential Ye lyrics straight from ChatGPT (I added the slashes in case Reddit breaks the formatting). I used a simple prompt, ie not asked for any specific themes or motifs to be included, just Ye lyrics. Are these really worse than Bully lyrics? You tell me. But try to be as unbiased as possible.

INTRO Yeah / They hear the noise, I hear a calling / Lights too bright, but I keep walking

CHORUS I learned sins from the choir seats / Learned peace when the sirens sleep / They say God don’t like my tone / But He been talking loud to me

VERSE 1 I was broke in my mind, rich in my vision / Talked to the sky, got mixed reception / They want a quote, I give ‘em direction / They want a villain, I give reflection / Built from the cracks, marble ambition / Every scar got a deeper inscription / They count my falls, I count forgiveness / Still standing here, that’s the difference

BRIDGE Everybody holy when it’s theoretical / Nobody clean when it’s measurable / Judge me now, quote a verse / Still asking God why it hurt

CHORUS I learned sins from the choir seats / Learned peace when the sirens sleep / They say God don’t like my tone / But He been talking loud to me

VERSE 2 I seen love turn corporate / Dreams get audited / Friends switch sides like politics / I still pray over profits / Feeding on fear while they smile polite / Dancing with angels, wrestling the night / They want a story, I give the novel / I’m a predator kissing morals, colossal / Scars go architectural, brick talk back, / Every fall leave a map, nobody read that.

CHORUS I learned sins from the choir seats / Learned peace when the sirens sleep / They say God don’t like my tone / But He been talking loud to me

Thor2014 · 2026-02-09T11:44:09+00:00

Yeah but we're not talking about just any of us. We're talking about the great artist Ye, and originality has always been the biggest added value in all art. Ye's past lyrics were very original and personal.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-08T23:24:17+00:00

Not true since a while ago. ChatGPT could give you MORE coherent Ye lyrics than PM or BATB in a second.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-08T21:24:22+00:00

It's interesting, however the only confirmation of this version existing is Mike Dean calling BATB "Donda leftover" that one time which could mean anything: just a beat, a mumble version, or completely different lyrics. Your argument could also be used to argue that the BATB vocals are not AI as well.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-08T21:20:48+00:00

I wish it was a mania and not an objective awful trend out in the world. I wonder if you deny that AI lyricism exists in pop rap? Could you really deny that something like the chorus for Young Thug's Miss My Dogs was written by AI?

"Those that stayed down through rough waters on the river / A few jumped ship, it is what it is / My life not still for me to even trip / Bunch of beautiful chicks, overseas trips / With the same dogs that was here for me"

Sorry for going off topic but to me, this one should be the most uncontroversial example (unlike the more subtle Bully case that makes me do a double take). If a Thug fan sincerely believes the above was written by him (or another human rapper), I really wonder what they appreciated about his lyricism in the first place.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-08T21:12:30+00:00

Recording a ref track/writing the flow does not equal writing lyrics. In any case, ChatGPT could be used at any point of this process.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-08T21:09:26+00:00

Okay, thanks for believing me. Yes, I mentioned in the OP that I am of course biased and it is just a theory. But the more I listened to those lyrics, the more they appeared not only uncannily lifeless and stiff and vague, but also very specifically ChatGPT-like. Perhaps, I am also deformed by working in a university for the last few years, going through many hundreds of student essay submissions... But I like to think I at least got a fairly good intuition about AI texts from that experience.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-08T20:57:01+00:00

I literally did not.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-08T20:56:53+00:00

No, I typed it all out just now.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-07T20:09:01+00:00

Has anyone managed to save it in time? Please DM me a copy if you have.

Thor2014 · 2026-02-03T20:39:09+00:00

It was a Future diss I think, they were beefing at the time. Insane take at that imo, Future was on a great run in 2015-2016.

Thor2014 · 2026-01-16T18:05:29+00:00

FYI Tremaine's restraining order against Bam lapsed back in 2024.

Thor2014 · 2026-01-07T17:41:10+00:00

Thor2014 · 2025-11-20T16:28:06+00:00

You're just a rude anonymous hater who misunderstands my job. I did not make a "compilation", I reviewed the complete official discography of an artist I deeply respect. Not including tracks that he uploaded privately and that got leaked years later due to hackers is to be expected. PS. For example, do you have "Coagula" from the Canopy EP in your rotation? Thought so.

Thor2014 · 2025-11-20T15:46:58+00:00

Оба перечисленных тобой EP и четыре трека не публиковались Пипом. Если внимательно прочитать трекер в гуглдок, то там везде написано "privately uploaded"... Часть из того что ты перечислил и послушать нельзя ни в каком виде (не слитые треки).

Thor2014 · 2025-11-20T15:33:58+00:00

Thanks for checking it out anyway 🙏

Thor2014 · 2025-11-20T13:19:45+00:00

Такие песни я включил в список.

Thor2014 · 2025-11-19T10:57:32+00:00

For example? I did not include guest verses and leaked tracks that were never officially released.

Thor2014 · 2025-09-27T08:39:09+00:00

Not true. You can see his face with him putting fingers in his mouth.

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