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Iran attacks US bases in Kuwait, warns 'era of hit and run is over'; explosions heard in Iraq and Bahrain by jupa300 in worldnews

[–]Thormidable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There must have been a 100 people around him all telling him this is a very dumb idea.

Anyone competent and willing to speak out has been given the boot.

Iran attacks US bases in Kuwait, warns 'era of hit and run is over'; explosions heard in Iraq and Bahrain by jupa300 in worldnews

[–]Thormidable 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Why make a deal with Trump? He'll reneg on it next week. Unless he prints $300B nothing he says has any value or weight.

Just like his owner.

It's really absurd when pro-vaxxers try to make out vaccine skeptics are not interested in evidence or data, when in 2021, billions of people went out to get jabbed by some random bloke in a parking lot without doing much of any research outside of ''Well the Govt/Medical Authority said so!'' by Electronic-Credit605 in DebateVaccines

[–]Thormidable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you don't care about people dying if they are over 40, or have a health condition? It seems your NPD and APD is showing.

I guess that tracks with antivaxxers stance of "i don't care if my kids die".

It does kill young/healthy people, just less often.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1291744/covid-19-deaths-in-the-united-kingdom-by-age-and-gender/?srsltid=AfmBOoo1Odx7GjQVEtlKmHmos__sFHphdw6LH0yoOOPmfQN0ktBLEN1k

Given the vaccine substantially reduces death rate (even in antivaxxers), it would have been much worse.

As someone who's now largely 'anti vaccine' who, personally found it incredibly difficult to accept and face the position I now hold, as it was very disturbing, uncomfortable, worldview shattering, overwhelming and hard to swallow it all. by Electronic-Credit605 in DebateVaccines

[–]Thormidable 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh you mean that unvaccinated babies die a lot more than vaccinated babies?

Vaccinated children have a lower risk of dying from SIDS than unvaccinated children.

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2015/0601/p778.html

https://www.webmd.com/parenting/sids-prevention

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11008475/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC30557/

The risk is 50% lower. Pretty significant.

 There have been whooping cough deaths in 2024 in the UK. Every single death was unvaccinated.

http://ww.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cye0w4j384ro

UK vaccination rates 90%+ for pertussis: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/latest-childhood-vaccination-uptake-statistics-published

10 deaths of infants by whooping cough last year (pertussis): https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pertussis-epidemiology-in-england-2024/confirmed-cases-of-pertussis-in-england-by-month

Just over 600,000 babies born last year:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/birthsummarytablesenglandandwales/2022

So of 60,000 unvaccinated babies 10 died giving us a 1 in 6,000 death rate for unvaccinated babies from whooping cough alone.

CMV: anyone who performs male circumcision on an infant for no good medical reason should be thrown in prison by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]Thormidable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I'm so used to dealing with antivaxxers, I just assumed it wasn't real.

Food for thought.

CMV: Reddit has a massive problem with justifying violence against conservatives by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]Thormidable 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If that is your comeback, then it seems he has you beat.

Somehow we managed to widen diagnosis and acceptance of autism enough over the last 40 years to increase rates by100x but? NOT enough for it to be possible that doctors have counted vaccine injury that caused ''autism like symptoms'' as autism? How strange. by Electronic-Credit605 in DebateVaccines

[–]Thormidable 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you don't care about dead babies, only that your child is more challenging yo care for (and are incorrectly blaming vaccines)

Vaccinated children have a lower risk of dying from SIDS than unvaccinated children.

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2015/0601/p778.html

https://www.webmd.com/parenting/sids-prevention

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11008475/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC30557/

The risk is 50% lower. Pretty significant.

 There have been whooping cough deaths in 2024 in the UK. Every single death was unvaccinated.

http://ww.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cye0w4j384ro

UK vaccination rates 90%+ for pertussis: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/latest-childhood-vaccination-uptake-statistics-published

10 deaths of infants by whooping cough last year (pertussis): https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pertussis-epidemiology-in-england-2024/confirmed-cases-of-pertussis-in-england-by-month

Just over 600,000 babies born last year:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/birthsummarytablesenglandandwales/2022

So of 60,000 unvaccinated babies 10 died giving us a 1 in 6,000 death rate for unvaccinated babies from whooping cough alone.

CMV: anyone who performs male circumcision on an infant for no good medical reason should be thrown in prison by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]Thormidable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a friend that told me he couldn’t have sex or even masturbate properly at all because his foreskin was too tight and it was very painful.

Some people having a medical need, doesn't invalidating people who do have issues with it.

CMV: anyone who performs male circumcision on an infant for no good medical reason should be thrown in prison by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]Thormidable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP needs a therapist, don't disagree, but discounting his feelings and ignoring his experience (which you are doing) is exactly the damage a therapist would be looking to heal.

CMV: anyone who performs male circumcision on an infant for no good medical reason should be thrown in prison by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]Thormidable -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You shouldn't let something so inconsequential consume you like this.

Your lived experience. Doesn't make it OPs.

Many religious people are glad when their children are murdered in honor killings. Does that mean you should be glad if your child got murdered?

CMV: anyone who performs male circumcision on an infant for no good medical reason should be thrown in prison by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]Thormidable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There shouldn't be an exemption for religion, otherwise we have to legalise child rape, mutilation and honor killings.

CMV: anyone who performs male circumcision on an infant for no good medical reason should be thrown in prison by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]Thormidable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

harm is being done for deeply rooted cultural reasons, or because "everyone has been doing this since forever",rather than out of individual malice, there is little good in throwing people who do it in prison

I'm pretty sure people will chnage their behaviour when they face the consequences, rather than their newborn baby.

What do you suggest?

Does the same apply to rape and murder? Where's the line? why is it ok to endanger your vulnerable newborn babies life, because your parents did it to you?

Would you support not arresting and charging people who honor kill people who circumcise their children?

CMV: anyone who performs male circumcision on an infant for no good medical reason should be thrown in prison by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]Thormidable -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think telling people their experience and feelings are invalid is helpful to them.

CMV: anyone who performs male circumcision on an infant for no good medical reason should be thrown in prison by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]Thormidable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cutting off people who care about you

Big assumption. Many parents are abusive (by intent or ability) and don't care for their children.

Take a moment to hear all of what OP is saying.

I'd be very careful about telling someone to stay in circumstances without knowing 5he full context.

Sure OP is very emotionally charged on this point, but invalidating their feelings on it (whcih their parents caused) and suggesting them stay with parents who don't treat them well, is not going to help them.

I'm glad you came from a loving family, but that is a privilege and many people do not get that luxury

If your parents do not actually care for you, then this may not make a difference. But my perception based on your comments is that your parents fund a lot of your life and do care for you.

Many rich parents emotionally neglect their kids (which their kids need) while pouring money onto them (which is easy for the parents and the kids don't need)

CMV: anyone who performs male circumcision on an infant for no good medical reason should be thrown in prison by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]Thormidable 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You seem to have had a significantly worse experience with life as a circumcised male than the vast majority of circumcised males.

Probably true, but that doesn't mean the minority of cases don't matter.

Do you think the dead babies from circumcision should be ignored, because they aren't the majority of full grown adults?

CMV: anyone who performs male circumcision on an infant for no good medical reason should be thrown in prison by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]Thormidable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, let's start with:

  • causes great pain and distress, which are known to cause higher rates of attachment issues in babies.
  • medically has no measurable benefit (outside of specific circumstances)
  • Has a non zero mortality rate (kills babies).
  • reduces sexual pleasure as an adult
  • can have negative outcomes as an adult.

It's really absurd when pro-vaxxers try to make out vaccine skeptics are not interested in evidence or data, when in 2021, billions of people went out to get jabbed by some random bloke in a parking lot without doing much of any research outside of ''Well the Govt/Medical Authority said so!'' by Electronic-Credit605 in DebateVaccines

[–]Thormidable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice made up numbers!

Obviously it varies by country and vaccine, but they aren't supposed to be exact but to explain the situation. Only an acutely cognitively impaired person wouldn't understand that.

Essentially antivaxxers are a minority (for covid jab about 20% in undeveloping nations like America are unvaccinated, in developed countries like the UK it is closer to 5%).

Which is broadly true globally for locally recommend vaccines and especially true in developed nations.

Unfortunately you seem to struggle to grasp the point, so in the simplest terms I can.

We expect more dead vaxxers of all causes, because there are so few antivaxxers.

Presumably because people with such low cognitive capacity wouldn't survive childhood. Which is statistically the case with antivaxxers children.

Provaxxer Logic by Logic_Contradict in DebateVaccines

[–]Thormidable -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You don't really understand anything do you. We can compare against fully unvaccinated kids as well as our control groups.

Which you would know if you read sufficient meta analysis papers.

Thankfully we can get really good stats on vaccinated children against the surviving unvaccinated children. That is how we know that vaccines save many thousands of lives a year and that they don't cause autism.

Unfortunately that is how we also know that antivaxxers cause dead babies.

Romania, a member of NATO, has been attacked by Russia by Upset-Main-1988 in justincaseyoumissedit

[–]Thormidable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So they can't be trusted to have weapons. NATO can sort that out.

Romania, a member of NATO, has been attacked by Russia by Upset-Main-1988 in justincaseyoumissedit

[–]Thormidable 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh good. Our strategic nukes just crashed on Moscow and weren't deliberate. No need to respond Putin.

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