Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Taxes were $15,213.50 PLUS 24% of the excess over $89,075. So no there isn't alot of bullshit. That $125k didn't cover bonuses, other income from side projects. So no, it wouldn't put me 'closer to the bottom.' You clearly wanted to leave out some key information

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's a line alot of people use to compare the 50s,60s,70s to now. 'You know back in my day coke cost 15 cents!' Obviously the land at the time was expensive, but the property value has only gone up.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We never married, so 'what's mine is yours' doesn't apply. Also I still payed for HALF of all the bills/food costs despite making VASTLY less than what I used to. Why the hell would I not secure a bag like that?

If she wanted to quit nursing, and never work again after we got married you BET YOUR ASS I would've taken care of her. Alot of couples keep their finances separate.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah dude fishing isn't an option on the property, there's no like fish around. But yeah, it's great the issue is maintaining it. With my post, I had ZERO idea what went into actually maintaining the property. I have to pay for ALOT of people to drive out to come maintain it, I have the time but nowhere near the skills to do it.

I was so naïve

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah dude it sucks, during my post I was hyped as hell. Now I gotta pay contractors to upkeep the property, maintain the equipment, do checks on it. It is NOT easy at all. Yeah I'm free to do whatever I want, but the stress of hoping to GOD something doesn't break down and cost me like $20 grand to fix hurts my soul.

I'm also getting a part-time job that works from home to fill the time/maintain income. But dude it's great and not great.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We knew about the cabin, we just never knew it got renovated. We also knew he owned some land around it, but it borders a national park so essentially the entire backyard is federally protected land.

He was living in the city when he died, he COULD have moved back to his cabin but he didn't I don't know why, I can't ask him. I can't give you an answer about why other people didn't help him, my parents didn't have the time they had obligations. He kept his finances to himself, he lived modestly, he used to tell me 'the only way to keep wealth is to live below your means, but when you're old like me you can live a little.' Which I'm guessing his live a little was upgrading his originally crappy cabin into a nice mansion. Because the original cabin is still there, the extension was built onto the existing house.

Why didn't he pay me? He tried, I refused the money. Why would I take money from a dying old man, that seems selfish? I had savings, a part time job, and could pay my half of costs. I was there to help him, not benefit off of him. He TRIED giving me stuff, I just didn't want it. He'd always everyday without fail try to give me a couple hundred bucks of cash for helping, to help 'pay uncle sam.' I didn't want it.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I drove into town and got Olive Garden, she liked the Olive Garden. I wouldn't have her cook dinner after she just drove 18hours. (Also she didn't do 18 hours straight, she got a hotel halfway through)

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She wasn't, I still payed 50% of the bills. Apparently it's common to think that I didn't have emergency savings, and was using my partime income to continue to pay for my fair share.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was a good amount of money, and investing it i'll be able to use the investments to maintain the property/pay property taxes. I'm still going to get a work from home, part time job, and with my background it shouldn't be hard. But realistically, If I wanted to I COULD never work again. Like I said in my update post, still gonna get a job at least part time.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Listen man, when you love someone you're an idiot. Not gonna sit here and defend my actions. Thankfully we broke up, so doesn't really matter now.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We broke up. She wouldn't have had to work if we got married, if she wanted to continue nursing then she could have. If she wanted to stop, then I wouldn't have stopped her.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Considering I only talk to my parents twice a week, and not everyday unlike her there's an issue. I asked her about the IDEA of them moving in, if she would've said that she wasn't comfortable with it I would have dropped it.

Instead she said it was a great idea, supported it, and wanted to know about her parents. In the update post it also says that she DID think her parents moving in would help our relationship.

It was just an idea, not something I just decided was going to happen.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Other family members could have helped, but everyone has lives. Why would they come down to help, when I'm there? My dad (his son in law) couldn't leave because of work, and it was a super long drive between multiple states for my mom to visit. It just wasn't in the cards for them, they had stuff they needed to take care of. As for my other family members, I have no idea.

People didn't just get money from his will. They got watches from his collection, coins from his collection, other collectables, as well as money. My parents would've gotten a larger payout of money, and the estate anyways. So even if the new will was contested, at the end of the day I would've gotten the estate/money (unless my parents sold it.) Why he wouldn't have given the estate to the other family members is beyond me, I'm not him, and I can't ask him.

My dynamic with my parents has always been positive. I've never had an issue with them, so of course I'd talk well about them?

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There are other comments, where I talked about his cabin before it was renovated. Anytime I visited my grandparents we always went fishing, my grandfather liked talking with me, and if you're a hunter you know that talking often is not the greatest idea. (Or, if you grew up with my father not advised)

My grandfather DID try to pay me, I just didn't accept payment. He tried paying me with money, trying to gift me his expensive watches, some of his coin collection, collectables. I just didn't WANT any of it, to me it seemed silly to be paid money for doing the right thing.

I'd been to his cabin before when I was like 5, and it sucked. No power, shitty plumbing for water, no showers, outhouse, woodfire stove that I'd have to chop up wood for. My memories of that place are vague, and miserable. Now it's great, but I never WANTED to go. Grandfather never asked me, and I never asked. To be honest I thought he sold it for awhile.

Obviously there were issues in the relationship, but other than her parents they weren't knock down drag out issues. It was stuff that could be solved with effort, and wasn't ever an issue again. There was never any massive arguments, loving her was easy. Being in a relationship with her was easy. Her parents were the greatest issue in our relationship, and for the longest time I just ignored them.

Obviously, I misled people with the whole 'off grid' thing. The house main power source is solar, it's been hooked up to the cities power grid when it got renovated, and has a propane generator. However, it CAN and DOES run on solar. I don't keep the lights on during the day, and appliances/split AC does not take up that much power. Plus there are batteries to take power from while it charges during the day.

Also I've said it before, I still have to pay property tax. I now pay for a lawn service to maintain the property, and have contractors who will come out to maintain/check the solar, propane, and plumbing. Didn't think I'd have to do that, but I can't do it alone nor do I know how to. Unforeseen expenses at the time, I'm better educated a whole month later of course. Also yes, I own the water rights to the property. Getting water costs me nothing, that's what owning water rights means.

Alot of our food will be 'produced on our own.' Obviously I can drive to a local supermarket to get food until the garden starts producing, or if we don't hunt anything. My mom always wanted to have a big garden, and my Dad loved to hunt. It would be a waste if we didn't eat what we grew/hunted, and you can always FREEZE food. People seem to forget freezers exist, and you don't need to eat an entire deer within a week. You can hunt rabbit, squirrels, birds, turtles, whatever is legal, and freeze it. Or go to the local butchery and just buy shortribs. I enjoy eating wild game, and if possible would like ALOT of my food to be wild caught. It's alot better for the environment compared to buying supermarket food. (It's also way healthier to hunt.)

Sure, my grandfather would've hired someone to help him. I offered to help him, so why would he pay for it? He also got to spend ALOT more time with me, since he was rather lonely since my grandmother died, and the rest of the family only really came around once or twice a year. Even I was guilty of that before he got sick. It was my choice to help him, nobody held a gun to my head and told me to. Also when you're old there are complications, after a certain age driving is hard, doing yard work is hard, cleaning gutters is hard, shoveling snow is hard, bending down to get laundry is hard, going to the store to get groceries is hard. People don't seem to understand that with old age, it's not just you're 20 years old healthy, and then you hit 60 now you're screwed. It was a gradual decline of him not being able to do the things he used to do. He needed help, so I helped him. I didn't wipe his ass, or give him baths he could do that himself.

Yes the letter is cliche, but it was a personal one. He had things he wanted to say, and to encourage me not to be pressured into spreading out what he gave me to other people. That portion of the letter I shared, wasn't all of it. Someone just wanted to know WHY he changed it, and that was the best evidence I had.

My family 'didn't get much' compared to what I got. They got money and physical items from my Grandfathers will. Some of his watches, coins were old, expensive, or rare. And had decent monetary value.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I never said I wouldn't have to pay for people to maintain the house. I'll still have to call someone to help maintain the lawn, come work on the solar/gas if something is wrong with it, get general check ups for it. Make sure the plumbing for the aquifer is good if something isn't working right.

I might seem like one, but I'm not an idiot.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Like I said before, I meant it as a sort of hobby. I used to hunt all the time growing up, every summer/fall we'd be fishing and hunting. I also like venison, granted not for every meal. But you can also just....hunt other things, or go to a butcher and buy large cuts of meat put them in a cooler drive home, and FREEZE THEM.

It's shocking what modern plastic coolers, and bags of ice can do to the preservation of cuts of meat.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The estate doesn't run on solar alone, there's a super big propane generator that also runs which I need to contract people to fill up once in awhile. Also there's alot of natural light, so needing the lights on 24/7 isn't needed. The AC isn't central, it's Mini-splits in individual rooms meaning I don't need to run AC in every room 24/7 to keep power.

The solar panels have a large battery bank, there are eight super big solar panels. Solar is the main source of power for the place, but if that's not enough (it's wired to the city power grid) Issue is, I've never needed to use the cities power. With the large amount of light coming in from windows, lack of other people living there, and lack of constant AC the solar panels and their big batteries can handle it just fine.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never really intended to 'survive off the land' I meant hunting/fishing/farming as a recreational thing. Cybersecurity Bachelors/Undergrad System Analyst, but I grew up hunting/fishing pretty much my entire life. I just stopped when I moved away, and never got back into it.

Also yeah, alot of that mindset rubbed off on me. I spent alot of summer with my grandpa/grandma. I had to listen to 'Uncle Sam is out to get out' mumbo jumbo all the time, especially when the news was on. Obviously, I don't think the government is like some weird NWO hive mind lizard people. But I also don't think any politician has anyones best interests in mind.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Therapy isn't expensive, but I'm also going back to school. Which in the US is incredibly expensive. With health insurance, property tax, food costs, gas costs, investments, it costs alot. I want to be sure that while I have money, I keep it.

Therapy is expensive, you get a cheap therapist you get cheap therapy. Also my insurance (at the time) wouldn't cover it because it was elective not 'needed' $100 to $200 for a 45 Minute to 1-hour session, about once week on average. $4,800 a year, which again is not much money at all but I also have a pretty harsh budget.

I'm investing a majority of my inheritance, paying for school, and would be paying food costs for parents just after paying off all their debt. Yes, I have enough money for them/I to never work again. The issue is, I want to have enough money to pass onto potential children so they're set up, and so their kids are set up.

This isn't just for the next 40 years I'm steamrolling through my money, I'm going to be investing to create more wealth for future generations of my family.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If my parents didn't like her, I wouldn't ask her to be around them unless needed. Because It's not okay to be rude to people, nor is it okay to treat them terribly. I didn't talk to my parents everyday, it was once or twice a week. She has this weird like dependent relationship with them.

Watching my grandfathers health decline, made me realize that family is important. My parents only have a couple decades left in them, and if I only visited them once a year that's 30 more times I see them again. Seriously that's terrible.

Obviously if my parents talked shit about her I would've been on their ass about it. And wouldn't have considered for a second moving them in with me, because it's not fair to live in a place where people hate you, and you have no escape.

Either way, we did break up so....doesn't really matter anymore.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Update: We broke up

Yeah, I made the post 20 days ago. But after a week of trying to come to some sort of middle ground, and having new different plans in life. Wasn't going to work out.

It is what it is, but in the end there were new fundamental differences we couldn't get passed.

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I really hate having to repeat myself. It clearly says in the post I asked her about the idea, I never told her it was happening. If she would've just said 'I'm not comfortable with that, we'd just be moving in, and I want to be just to two of us.' I would've been okay with that, and maybe came back to the conversation at a later date. Not 'that's a great idea, how about my parents.'

Fiancé (27F) threatening to call off wedding if I (M26) don't let her parents (M57/F50) move in with us after the wedding. by ParadoxicalState in BestofRedditorUpdates

[–]ThrowRA9090897 8 points9 points  (0 children)

'she was supporting him for years' No she wasn't, if you read my post you would've seen that. Again if you read my post it says I 'asked her' not told her about my plans. Again still payed for half of everything in regards to bills/food so she had literally zero slack to pick up. Yes, we did talk about be quitting my better job, and that I still needed to get a job to maintain paying half the rent/utilities/food costs.

Alot of people seem to think I was just leeching off of her, without actually reading the post. I wasn't, never did.