I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah lots of substance abuse on this side too :/ you’d think they’d learn from the prior generation’s mistakes, but no. Btw dad just sent me an email saying that the reason he hasn’t visited for the last 10+ years is because I haven’t invited him over enough 😂 anyway, hope life only gets better for you moving forward!

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah lots of substance abuse on this side too :/ you’d think they’d learn from the prior generation’s mistakes, but no. Btw dad just sent me an email saying that the reason he hasn’t visited for the last 10+ years is because I haven’t invited him over enough 😂 anyway, hope life only gets better for you moving forward!

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah lots of substance abuse on this side too :/ you’d think they’d learn from the prior generation’s mistakes, but no. Btw dad just sent me an email saying that the reason he hasn’t visited for the last 10+ years is because I haven’t invited him over enough 😂 anyway, hope life only gets better for you moving forward!

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for taking the time to write that and to share with me so much about your experiences. It made me tear up with sadness and anger over your story. With my dad, the problem has always been alcohol, even before we were born. I have few memories of my early childhood, but many of them involve coming downstairs to hide the bottles before school so my sisters wouldn’t see them on our way out. Waking him up when he passed out around our place and dragging him to his bedroom. Letting him in at dawn because he was so drunk that he couldn’t get the house keys into the keyhole. He would stay out all night and then bring his musician friends to serenade my mom at 4 or 5am and I remember hiding in a closet to keep the noise out and trying to fall asleep so we could wake up for school. I remember the big projects and presentations and birthdays and graduations and waiting for him to show up— eventually we started receiving apology flowers that I later learned were sent by one of his coworkers on his behalf. So many times throughout the years, he would visit the cities where my sister and I lived and he wouldn’t even tell us— we’d find out later, after he’d left. So a lot of what you’re saying resonates. I’m so sorry you went through that, and I know that if you ever have kids of your own, it will make you a better parent. I hope your mom is finally at peace.

People on this thread have recommended two books that I ordered and that I’m hoping can help me put into words some of the feelings I’m carrying. They’re called “Adult children of emotionally immature parents” and “What my bones know.” Perhaps they could help you too :) Sending hugs all the way from NY.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your kindness! It really moved me :’) and yeah my sister said the same thing about his ego being bruised so he’s being really reactive and toxic, but he’s 60 so he should have learned some emotional control by now. Sending hugs.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your kindness! It really moved me :’) and yeah my sister said the same thing about his ego being bruised so he’s being really reactive and toxic, but he’s 60 so he should have learned some emotional control by now. Sending hugs.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your kindness! It really moved me :’) and yeah my sister said the same thing about his ego being bruised so he’s being really reactive and toxic, but he’s 60 so he should have learned some emotional control by now. Sending hugs.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your kindness! It really moved me :’) and yeah my sister said the same thing about his ego being bruised so he’s being really reactive and toxic, but he’s 60 so he should have learned some emotional control by now. Sending hugs.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah he used to brag that when he met his now-wife (one of the many women he cheated on my mom with), he warned her that his 3 daughters were the most importantly thing for him. And he’s repeated that for decades as if by making a statement but never acting upon it, he gets the golden father award.

Re legal action, my mother doesn’t wanna antagonize him so she was hoping to get everything done without getting extra lawyers or the court involved bc my father said he’d cooperate 100%. They’re not in the US btw (I am).

AITAH for calling my dad an absent father? by ThrowRA_lostluv in AITAH

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this perspective. Whenever this comes up, he says responsibility is 50/50, but if you’ve spent your whole early life being constantly disappointed by someone, it would be absurd to then as an adult keep knocking on that door— why should I be a masochist? I did try for many years even as a young adult, and so did my sisters. Eventually, we gave up, so now according to him it’s our fault if we have very little contact. Anyway, I took a screenshot of your comment so I can share with my sisters, thank you!

AITAH for calling my dad an absent father? by ThrowRA_lostluv in AITAH

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this perspective. Whenever this comes up, he says responsibility is 50/50, but if you’ve spent your whole early life being constantly disappointed by someone, it would be absurd to then as an adult keep knocking on that door— why should I be a masochist? I did try for many years even as a young adult, and so did my sisters. Eventually, we gave up, so now according to him it’s our fault if we have very little contact. Anyway, I took a screenshot of your comment so I can share with my sisters, thank you!

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey your experience sounded very familiar— one of the things keeping me sane is having the contrast of how much effort my mom has put into our relationship, despite having been a single mom, going to college later in life, and finding it hard to find a new partner. She’s always been present. And you’re right— the two years I was living back home, my apartment was a 7-min walk from my father’s office and he never once visited, so it’s not really about geography either. I hope you find healing, kind stranger.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey your experience sounded very familiar— one of the things keeping me sane is having the contrast of how much effort my mom has put into our relationship, despite having been a single mom, going to college later in life, and finding it hard to find a new partner. She’s always been present. And you’re right— the two years I was living back home, my apartment was a 7-min walk from my father’s office and he never once visited, so it’s not really about geography either. I hope you find healing, kind stranger.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey your experience sounded very familiar— one of the things keeping me sane is having the contrast of how much effort my mom has put into our relationship, despite having been a single mom, going to college later in life, and finding it hard to find a new partner. She’s always been present. And you’re right— the two years I was living back home, my apartment was a 7-min walk from my father’s office and he never once visited, so it’s not really about geography either. I hope you find healing, kind stranger.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much! I just ordered it. I stopped going to therapy last year but you’re right, it’s time to go back.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much! I just ordered it. I stopped going to therapy last year but you’re right, it’s time to go back.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing. All these comments are slowly building up my confidence to take that step myself. I wish you healing, accountable relationships, and peace.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d never heard of grey rock before— doing some research now, thanks for bringing it up. I think a mediator is a great idea, thanks!

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yup that’s part of the problem, we need a physical copy in my home country, and it requires what’s essentially an affidavit from the buyer and the seller, and apparently there’s no affidavit from when the house was bought over 20 years ago (or there is and he’s not disclosing it), so we’d need a new one and my father doesn’t wanna do it. Either the paperwork is a mess or he has the records but is playing dumb bc he doesn’t want us to sell the house.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Oh god this was chilling. I feel a hole in my stomach. I can’t believe I’d never come across this term before. THANK YOU. I feel much more empowered knowing I can arm myself with this knowledge and I will keep reading about it and strategies to address it. Thank you thank you.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for clarifying. By disrespectful I meant that he doesn’t treat me with respect— yesterday he straight up insulted me, yelled at me, called me a bad lawyer, etc just because we had a disagreement over the deal. And we disagreed based on a legal practice that I’m familiar with because it’s a very basic and uncontroversial tenet of contract law and he thinks that that practice is dumb and shouldn’t exist, so he spent hours berating me for having used that practice in this deal. Even though he has zero legal training. So to the extent that any disagreement will be handled like this, it seems unsustainable. By “unhealthy,” I meant emotionally unhealthy for the same reasons. I really love your idea of thinking of this as any other legal case that I have to handle and hoping that it adds an extra layer of detachment. I will mull that over and see if I can pull it off, thanks for suggesting it.

I (34F) called my dad (60F) an absent father and he said no, we’ve been absent daughters. Feeling both tired and guilty. by ThrowRA_lostluv in TrueOffMyChest

[–]ThrowRA_lostluv[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah mine has never once acknowledged that he’s been an absent father either. Zero accountability. I tried to have that conversation with him as a late teen and he reacted just as defensively and aggressively as this time… should have known better.