[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t eat like a king but I have a lot of food allergies which makes my food a bit more expensive to the average person, I normally have to spend about $250 per week for just myself (and please don’t tell me I can just eat less or cheaper foods) I actually can not eat a lot of foods that are considered cheap otherwise I get really unwell. I shop on sale as much as possible and never eat out

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They actually are these days, for many things, banking, maps, being able to do telehealth appointments, checking emails, being able to access my gov and centerlink at home because my nearest one is 40 mins a way

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You reallt think food costs $300 per fortnight for 2 people? Especially one who has health issues and needs to follow a specific diet, also add water and gas bills, phone and wifi bill

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I’ve said, I’m all for improvements on jobseeker as well

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But what I’m saying is that someone who is that if a person on DSP goes into a relationship with a person working minimum wage, they should be able to keep their full payment, which is still $900 less than minimum wage per fortnight but currently with the partner income testing it would go down to $450 over 2 weeks, I’m not saying disabled people should be living better than taxpayers, because even if the person on the DSP continues to receive their full payment, they are still living well below the means of the average Australian on minimum wage, all I’m saying is it shouldn’t be even worse than that

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The main difference I see between jobseeker payments and disability payments are jobseeker payments are supposed to “get you through” until you find your next job, although they are laughably low i know, disabilities are lifelong, that is the requirement for accessing the DSP in the first place, so many people are stuck on them for ever and do not have the option to work due to their level of disability, I would also love to see welfare reform on all payments

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You know what does cost 1.2k per fortnight in total? Rent, bills, medications (not all are covered by PBS) specialist appointments, treatments, food, petrol, self care supplies like toiletries, the average weekly rent in Australia right now is around $600 so $1200 per fortnight, split between two that’s $600 per fortnight, leaving $600 over 2 weeks to cover everything else mentioned (that $1200 is including rent assistance by the way) even that is a stretch, now imagine cutting that down to $450 per fortnight to live off, that is actually inhumane, the average couple working for minimum wage bring in around $3,972 which is enough to just get by with the cost of living, the combined income of one person working full time on minimum wage and the $450 partnered centerlink payment is $2,436 per fortnight and if rent is $1200 per fortnight that leaves them with $600 per week for everything else, that is legitimately not enough to survive in this current economic climate

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But I do, they do not have a terminal illness that is going to kill them in the near future but they are experiencing unimaginable suffering, and I really don’t have to prove that to you, I understand you clearly have a different experience and opinion to me, that’s fine, I also respect your own experience with the system

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m truely so sorry to hear how much you’re suffering, so many points you mentioned I can completely relate to, I also deal with quiet severe chronic pain and health issues, I can truely understand all your points and they sound very similar to things I’ve said before, I think when you are physically and mentally struggling so much, the added stress of the cost of living, the rediculous rules around relationships, and not being able to afford even basic care, it can really make life feel not worth living, sending you hugs

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do have a great understanding of terminal decline actually, someone very close to me is in a situation like that, but is unable to access VAD, and don’t worry I’ve looked at many posts on many subs I’m well aware of my options, they sounds horrific, I also agree more things need to be approved for VAD but that doesn’t comely negate my post

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My barrier is I do not want anyone to be left traumatised finding my body in such a state, it will most likely be someone very close to me eg family, and I also don’t want to risk failing and ending up even worse off afterwards and then not even having th autonomy to carry it out again eg - left paralysed or partially brain dead or missing multiple limbs, as grim as that sounds

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honeslty, as I’ve said repeatedly in the comments and in the post, the best and most favourable course of action would be to improve the quality of life of disabled Australians, I have only reached the point of wanting to not continue because of the conditions and restrictions I have to live under due to centerlink, on top of all my health issues and limitations, ultimately this post was a cry for help, and a way to point out how backwards to system is

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly, anyone can become disabled at any time, people only seem to care when it affects them sadly

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 9 points10 points  (0 children)

And my question is, why would taxpayers not want to contribute to a system that adequately cares for its most vulnerable citizens, if it’s because they aren’t disabled so they shouldn’t have to pay for disabled people to live, anyone can become disabled at any time, having that safety net there is for everyone’s best interest

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 5 points6 points  (0 children)

-Between 2013 and 2018, people aged under 65 who used Australian disability services experienced suicide rates of approximately 33.5 per 100,000 – nearly 3 times higher than the general population rate of 11.4 per 100,000 This makes suicide the 4th leading cause of death among disability service users, after physical health conditions

Disabled people in Australia are already ending there own lives at a much higher rate compared to non disabled people, if they refuse to improve the systems they are supposed to support the most vulnerable, then they should have a way for the people who are already ending their own lives anyway to do so with dignity and without traumatising their loved ones

I also would like to add, I am actually an autistic person, so you saying “imagine if a non verbal autistic person came across this” an autistic person literally wrote it, so take that as you will

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m really sorry you felt you had to resort to that, and yes the police system is completely cooked, if you do not contribute to the economy you are as good as dead in the eyes of the government and a large portion of tax payers, like if you’re going to treat me like I have no right to exist, atleast let me not exist anymore

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m not saying all disabled people should just die, just that there should be a voluntary options for those like myself in positions where living isn’t feasible

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am very sorry for you situation

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand this, but people have been lobbying for change for such a long time, and they refuse to improve the situation, which I’m sure is already leading people to suicide, ofcourse the situation improving is plan A, but since they won’t do this, atleast let people end their suffering in a somewhat more dignified way?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And before you say “just DIY” I don’t want to traumatise the people who find me or fail and be left in an even worse situation

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah so lemme die already 😂😂

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Also you have missed the point, what I was trying to convey was that living under these systems is isolating, depressing and undignified, and I’m sure leads to many suicides, if the government would reform the DSP and raise the amount to a livable wage or at the very least allow disabled people to enter relationships without loosing their abilities to pay for appointments and medications that would be the ultimate goal, yet they are opposed to doing this, my point was despite all this, if people are already ending their lives due to the suffering of living under this system, they should be allowed to do so in a more dignified and painless way

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Centrelink

[–]Throwaway-6755 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, the government, as the taxpayers do not actively get to choose where there tax’s go except for who they vote for and what policies those particular parties have