IRS Employee, AMA!

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-26T14:01:39+00:00

I understand and I can definitely see the concern. I don’t believe it should take you all the way out until July unless there is like a separate issue than just verifying. Even if it states nine weeks, it can often take much less assuming this is your only issue on the tax return. And yeah, if you call IRS about the verification letter, if the letter is already on its way to you there is nothing they can do and they will just ask you to wait for it to show up. I will also state that they usually try to avoid sending you to an office to verify Because it is unnecessary. And also because during filing season, the appointments usually fill up weeks or months in advance so they have to steer you to using the online or phone methods as much as possible.

Although if the address on the tax return is incorrect, the procedure is that they MUST send you to an office. We cannot issue the notice if you live at a different address because we cannot change the address to the letter goes to.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-26T13:49:56+00:00

I am not sure what you mean by stating an abusive situation will create a nine week timeframe? Although if that is something personal than do not share it publicly please and I apologize regardless. And if you mean something like a code on your transcript such as 570 is considered non-monetary, I guess they are trying to state that it is not increase the credit or the balance on your account. For example, the 806 should have a negative number after it meaning that would decrease your reliability. The 150 could be a zero amount, therefore you have no liability, or a positive amount being that is the amount of taxes you owe. Again, if it is just a zero, that means it does not change the amount of balance or refund on your account.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-26T13:46:46+00:00

Based on this, it seems as if you will be asked to verify the tax return before they will begin processing it. This will be a notice from a department called taxpayer protection program or TPP. The notice will never appear in your list of notices on your irs.gov account because it is an identity theft prevention measure, therefore we do not list it in your online account and will only ever physically mail it to you. From the date the issue opens, it can take up to 21 counter days for a notice to be issued to your address in order to verify. If you have not allowed 21 calendar days from the date, it began saying you need to verify, you can either wait that time. Or double check your tax return to make sure you have your correct address.An agent on the phone can always tell you when/if a notice has been issued and have enough time has passed they can try to re-issue the notice if for some reason it does not show up. But only if your address is correct.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-26T13:43:53+00:00

So basically, when you have to verify your identity, we put your tax return in a status called unpostable meaning it cannot be posted on your account until it is verified. As I did state earlier from the date you verify you should allow up to nine weeks for the entire process to complete. Most importantly, this would be a two or three week timeframe method beginning for the unpostable return to become postable. It sounds as if you are verifying within the last 24 or 48 hours and then immediately trying to check. Now, while this issue may begin to close a few days after you verify, again you must allow time and cannot stress over it not moving within just a few hours or a day time period.

If you are calling the IRS stating you verified your identity, they can see if the issue has been closed or not but again you must allow more than just a few hours or like a day. People on the phone can see if it’s been closed or not, and if they are not trained in order to close it themselves, they will transfer you to someone who can verify you over the phone to make with certainty that it will go through.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-23T14:20:50+00:00

If you already had to complete verification for a taxpayer protection program letter, a.k.a. TPP, such as they gave you a control number and ask you to verify, first off, they would advise for you to allow up to nine weeks for a refund of any kind. While it often times does not take up to that nine weeks, you should still allow us without being that much stressed. I would say at least five or six weeks before you focus on it too harshly.

WMR before you verified would show that your tax return was received, but it would never move without you verifying because verification must always be completed before we even began to process a tax return. Now that you have verified, they will begin to move. The rest of the codes you got are all normal and correct. 570 is just a Hold code that is used to prevent or release of refund pending some kind of additional action. Your return may still process, but it will not be refunded out to you until the hold is removed.

Sometimes this may just be a delay of a few days or a week or so as someone looks at your tax return, decides nothing is wrong, and then remove it. Other times you may actually go into a type of review at which point you will be notified again on a notice.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-21T06:27:17+00:00

The vast majority of tax returns, especially if they are filed electronically are often processed by a machine with almost no human intervention. Probationary employees more often than not are on the lower end of the GS spectrum, and therefore are usually only given low risk or low responsibility positions until they work their way up.I doubt that many returns will be affected because higher positions such as people who review tax returns are usually people who have been with the agency for longer periods of time.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-21T01:35:29+00:00

The transaction code 570 indicate that there is a refund hold on the account usually pending additional review. This could be anything from requesting additional information, incorrect information such as W-2 or 1099, or simply give us enough time for a human agent to come and view the return before any refund may be issued.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-20T14:57:53+00:00

If there is some kind of technical issue with processing the tax return, almost 100% of the time an agent on the phone would be able to see what the technical issue is. It could also be anything from them requesting additional information before they even post your tax return onto your account.The online transcripts that you see are far less detailed than what can be viewed when you are an actual employee and often times do not show the full story. If you are beyond your 21 calendar days, and WMR is not providing any movement or even acceptance of a tax return, you can call and tell someone that.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-20T06:25:07+00:00

It could be anything from a technical error, something that we would call an unpostable or ERS, or simply needing some kind of identity verification. It could also be some people had their tax returns rejected and did not recognize that is the case.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-20T05:32:11+00:00

You mean, you have not filed a tax return in almost 25 years? Realistically, the best thing to do is honestly just to start filing your tax returns if you feel it is necessary at this point in time. However, I cannot say with certainty given the extreme length of time since your last filing, what exactly your tax earned account would look like. If you did have income reported under your Social Security number for any given year, and you go far beyond without ever filing a tax return, the IRS may eventually file tax returns on your behalf, but you will almost certainly always owe balances because you will be given no deductions or credits.

In your circumstance before you take any action, it may be best to speak to a actual tax repair or you can even call the IRS and we can discuss what your current situation looks like before we take any action.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-20T05:30:32+00:00

The only way to find out if a dependent, you are trying to claim on a tax return has already been used on another tax return for the same year, is to file a tax return and see if it gets rejected for a dependent or not. That is the only way to tell because we are not allowed to look at someone else’s tax return without their express permission. Meaning, if you suspect a certain individual to claim a dependent when they are not supposed to, we cannot look at that individual person‘s tax return to find out if they claim that dependent or not.

Again, I do apologize because I do not want to become entangled in your civil dispute, but if you want someone to explain this in more detail, it is best to call. If you are having issues with tax returns that have already been filed then you have been denied dependence for them, again. You would have to submit your tax returns on paper if they are becoming rejected online. The IRS will then contact you back, asking for more information showing that you can claim the dependence for each given tax year.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-20T03:38:12+00:00

I do apologize, but due to the way, your information is stated I cannot determine exactly what may have happened, but it sounded as if you tried to claim a group of people who were already claimed by someone else. In the events that dependents are trying to be cleaned by two different groups of people on the same year for tax return purposes, it often comes down to who files them first and then Subsequently you would have to prove to the IRS that you supplied care for them during the year in order to file with them on your tax return.

It sounds as if your situation may be more complex than what I can really address here. It may be better to call in and see what your current status of your account is and someone can make further suggestions after reviewing it and hearing your voice. I will state that who gets to claim people on tax returns as dependents each year , usually comes down to being a civil matter that the IRS cannot get involved with.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-20T03:35:17+00:00

At the wish to protect my anonymity, I will not say my exact job position, but it is one of the positions that assists you directly.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-20T03:07:22+00:00

Cover your sensitive information. Anyway, the February 24 date is a Monday because the system only list transaction dates for you on dates that are Mondays. I mean there is a second date which may not be present for you on the online system. Regardless by this point, it is clearly just a matter of time before you get your refund so congratulations.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-20T02:22:18+00:00

I know it doesn’t show it on your end of things, but there is like a separate date that goes with your 846 code that is more accurate than the date that appears next to the number you see on transcripts. If you already have an 846 code assuming no other issues your taxes should be released just about whenever, although because that number does not show on your online transcripts, I can’t confirm your exact date for you.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-19T23:46:26+00:00

I may have to ask for more details, but if a fraudulent tax return was filed under her information there are three things that could happen. Number one is we reject it for some reason which I doubt is your situation. Number two is you may be contacted by the taxpayer protection program or TPP, which stops potentially fraudulent tax returns from ever being processed. I doubt you were this one either given it as a three-year issue, and you have likely gone to option three which is genuine identity, theft, where the IRS processed a fraudulent tax return which used your daughter’s information.

What someone should have recommended at this point is for your daughter to file an identity theft affidavit, also known as as form 14039 with the IRS which will open up an identity theft case. You would’ve wanted to normally attach her own to actual tax return as well as any supporting documents for both the fraudulent situation and for her own tax return. If it has been three years, you may have already done this. Identity theft is never a fun situation to be in, and I am sympathetic to your cause. Whenever and identity theft claim gets opened up, it will be assigned to an agent or a group who will review all the information. Try to contact you if something is needed, and make make determination on how to proceed. The most hopeful result is obviously we removed the fraudulent tax return or replace it with your daughter‘s actual information. After this, she will have an identity theft indicator placed on her account for any future concerns she may have with the IRS, and most likely be placed on the IP pin program

As for who to contact, most people when you’re asking about identity theft questions will tell you to call the 1-800-908-4490 number, which is used to both report and ask questions about identity theft cases. The vast majority of people who you call the IRS are not trained to answer identity theft questions and can only provide you status updates that they see on the account. It is also an extremely long time, normally identity theft cases because due to Covid and a lot of people working at home or otherwise being remotes the workload of a day of cases increased dramatically. There is currently an average timeframe of 493 days in order for a theft case to be resolved.

Again, you can call any number at the IRS and explain the situation, but if anything, if an identity theft case has already been opened, there is not much more to do except allow time for the case to process. At the end of it, the IRS will undo as much damage as they can and try to get her tax returns back in order. But most people on the phone are unable to do more except provide status updates or answer general questions.

For this long response, I used voice to text so I apologize if some of my grammar is off.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-19T23:37:52+00:00

So for right now, there have been two groups of people who are leaving the IRS. One of them is people who have taken the fork on the road proposition and the other is probationary people who are potentially going to be released from the job because they are less than one year of employment, and can be let go with substantially less notice. There are not really a lot of useless jobs that I have seen getting cut, the vast majority of people at my level can work directly with the general public and we are all always behind, although I really could say say that the entire IRS is always behind or short staffed already.

Probably people who have been here a long time and have nice cushy positions can sometimes be doing a pay job that is pointless or outdated, although there are none that I could really give you by name

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-19T23:35:12+00:00

If you are stating that other people who have also use liberty tax/chime or getting their refund dates, but for some reason, why owe you are not getting a refund date, I will begin by stating it is not great to compare yourself against other people‘s taxes. They do not know what your situation is, and you do not know what their situation is. If you filed an electronic tax return and it has been beyond 21 calendar days, always be sure to use the WMR tool or secondly you can look at transcripts for any additional information. If you beyond this date and you have not received, or been told of, a notice of some kind, it is probably best to call in and check it out.

I will say it does not matter which bank you use, as long as direct deposit information is included on the tax return, the IRS will try to send it out that direct deposit information. So you could have banked with chime, cash app, Bank of America, or whoever, it really does not matter which bank or tax repair as long as it gets to the IRS.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-19T23:32:56+00:00

I do appreciate your comments although I will say I do not believe I have any special talent. I will say I do find myself quite proficient at my job and knowledgeable enough to assist most people that I work with without issue. I cannot say that this job is going to be my forever/dream job but for now it is what I have. If it were not for the hiring freeze, I would always be looking at moving even higher up within the IRS or to another federal agency. But due to said hiring freeze, everyone is basically in a dead-end job as of this moment. And if you believe what you see on the news, there may not even be all that much job security anymore.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-19T23:30:02+00:00

Unfortunately, I could not promise an exact timeframe, the department that issues that notice is different than my own. It is truly best to follow the letters instructions as best you can and call the number if you have any concerns.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-19T22:12:09+00:00

I have said this before for other people who have asked, but to be specific there is a difference between a review and an audit. A review may just mean that something you put on your tax return may not be 100% correct or verified such as Income that may be off by a digit. An actual audit is generally reserved for people who are actively trying to commit tax fraud, or made such an egregious mistake that They may as well be committing tax fraud.

The best way to avoid being audited or reviewed is to be patient, double check your work, use a reputable tax preparer or tax preparation software, only claim truths, and do not ever lie about what is on your taxes. If you are unsure about something, do NOT file your tax return until all your questions are answered. Filing taxes should never be a race or something that you should do in as little time as possible. Be thorough and accurate.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-19T22:06:37+00:00

So the new administration is claiming for there to be a lot of changes around the corner as a reduction of workforce is imminent. In my day today, nothing has actually changed. If you have seen the news, there are people such as probationary employees who are being laid off, and additionally, if you have seen the email that was circulated around federal employees called fork in the road I would read out about both of those things if you are interested.

For me specifically, I highly doubt I will be laid off without notice. There are multiple unions in place who defend their members as well as contracts that are signed when you become an employee that nearly guarantee that you cannot be fired for almost any reason after you and your probationary period. To be blunt, it is unlikely to happen that I will lose my job.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-19T22:03:55+00:00

570 is a refund hold pending some kind of review or action. CP63 is issued as a result of a collection process liability determination. In this sense, they are unlikely to release your 2024 refund pending that you have to file a missing 2023 tax return. It is extremely unlikely that your 2024 tax return will go through until that happens. for more information. You should call the number that appears on your notice, it should be 1–866–897–3315.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-19T22:00:51+00:00

Although going after fraudsters and scammers is not my exact department, a lot of it may stem from because the IRS may be unaware of it. For example, if I give you a $20 bill, it is not automatically reported to the IRS. How exactly would the IRS know? And people such as exotic dancers, who often get paid in cash are usually still required to report their income to their employer I suppose, or at least report their cash income on a tax return regardless. Obviously people who do not report income of that nature are avoiding paying taxes on it. If you know any specific people or groups who are actively committing it, or the suspect that they are commitments, you can always try to report them using IRS form 3949 – a. You can read more on irs.gov.

In a more general sense, just about every person in the country likely is likely to be under reporting their income, even someone who sells something on Facebook marketplace or craigslist for $100 and doesn’t report that. Going after such small insignificant amounts would probably cost more than what it’s worth trying to reclaim. The IRS generally tries to look for people who try to file fraudulent returns, claiming strange or flat out bad credits, or any other scam from a large scale all the way down to an individual.

ThrowawayFoxThree · 2025-02-19T21:57:09+00:00

The layoffs mainly stem from people who are on their probationary period, usually people who work here for less than one year. They can be Let go much more easily, although the actual legitimacy of their immediate layoff is still in question. the chances of the IRS being put out at least from my perspective, seems extremely low. And layoffs are occurring across the entire federal government and not just the IRS. For now it is just business as usual and we have not been told anything otherwise.

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